WHOSE CAREER WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE IF YOU WERE A QB ???

[run pMc]

Are you saying, Bart Starr should not be in the HOF?

I am fine with yielding to Patler on anything prehistoric relating to the Packers, but it sure seemed like Starr was the prototype “game manager.” Those Packers teams had a tons of Hall of Famers, I believe.

Bart Starr was a 2x SB MVP, the 1966 NFL MVP, a 4 time All-Pro, and league leader in passing completion rate and passer rating four times. Eli Manning was nowhere near that good.

[run pMc]

Ain’t made him any less of an entitled prick.

Eli was not the first player to make a stink about potentially playing for a specific team. John Elway is a noteworthy example.
In fact, it was not unusual for players back in the day to say no thanks to being drafted by the NFL and play for AFL or CFL. Even after the AFL/NFL merger Bruce Clark said no thanks to GB drafting him in 1980.

This year there was some smoke about Caleb being ambivalent about playing for CHI, but his PR crew squashed that.
Players usually are coached by their agents to not make big stinks about where they are drafted.

Archie did pull a lot of strings with Eli and the Chargers though. IIRC SD didn't come out of the deal too badly - they got Philip Rivers, Nate Kaeding, Shawne Merriman, and Roman Oben out of the trade.

[Guiness]

If Kurt Warner is a HoF'er, Eli Manning certainly is.

But KW went from stocking shelves in a grocery store when the phone rang and he went on to QB the Greatest Show on Turf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's about the narrative for that guy. Everyone loves the story.

[bobblehead]

But KW went from stocking shelves in a grocery store when the phone rang and he went on to QB the Greatest Show on Turf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's about the narrative for that guy. Everyone loves the story.

Kurt made the owl with 2 different franchises. That is a huge accomplishment not to be mistaken with luck or surrounding cast.

[Fritz]

But KW went from stocking shelves in a grocery store when the phone rang and he went on to QB the Greatest Show on Turf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's about the narrative for that guy. Everyone loves the story.

Would people feel as good about the narrative if he'd been, say, a stripper, or a drug dealer?