Page 4 of 14 FirstFirst ... 2 3 4 5 6 ... LastLast
Results 61 to 80 of 262

Thread: Packers Offseason/Free Agency/ Non-Draft Thread

  1. #61
    Postal Rat HOFer Joemailman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    In a van down by the river
    Posts
    33,288
    Quote Originally Posted by George Cumby View Post
    I'm generally against this type of move, but 'Tae is the exception, IMO.
    Depends on what the move is. If the Jets release him, I am all in on pursuing him as a free agent. If the Jets want to trade him, I'm against trading high picks for a guy you will then have to pay a ton of money to.
    Ring the bells that still can ring
    Forget your perfect offering
    There is a crack, a crack in everything
    That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen

  2. #62
    Postal Rat HOFer Joemailman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    In a van down by the river
    Posts
    33,288
    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    ‪Justis Mosqueda‬ ‪@jumosq.bsky.social‬

    The Texans' OL underperformed to the point where the team fired their OC.

    Adam Stenavich makes a lot of sense there.

    Luke Getsy makes a lot of sense as his replacement in Green Bay.

    https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2...or-2025-update
    Texans have hired their new OC, and it's not Stenavich.
    Ring the bells that still can ring
    Forget your perfect offering
    There is a crack, a crack in everything
    That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen

  3. #63
    Anti Homer Rat HOFer Bretsky's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Fort Atkinson, WI
    Posts
    33,086
    Blog Entries
    2
    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Texans have hired their new OC, and it's not Stenavich.
    I could care less

    I would be fine with Getsy instead of the fabulous OL coach we have imitating an OC
    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    It used to be illegal to push the ball carrier from behind. They ought to go back to that. All pushing of the ball carrier should be outlawed, not just the tush push.
    Yes. Nobody wants to watch that shit.

  5. #65
    Postal Rat HOFer Joemailman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    In a van down by the river
    Posts
    33,288
    Sounds like Josh wants a former teammate in Green Bay.

    97.3 The Game @TheGameMKE

    “I think we need a guy that’s proven to be a #1 WR already.”

    -Packers RB Josh Jacobs on “No BS” with @BillSchmidRadio & @ArmenSaryan
    Ring the bells that still can ring
    Forget your perfect offering
    There is a crack, a crack in everything
    That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen

  6. #66
    Jacobs isn't wrong. They need someone who can convert a 3rd and 4 in spite of tight man coverage consistently.
    GB's WRs are talented and have done well considering their age and draft pedigree, but they also need someone to step up.

    So...Jacobs is right, and the WRs are right if they are a little sensitive to the comment. If they want to be the alpha, they have to earn it by putting in the work and producing.

    the Jets would have to cut Adams since he's owed a ton of money, and they won't do that unless A-A-Ron isn't coming back. Personally I'd rather they look at the draft and maybe a cheaper speed guy who can play outside, and also that they used Kraft more (and more creatively). I think he can be a good player for converting 3rd downs if they featured him (like Kittle, Kelce, Andrews, McBride are) more. Adams is good and likely has a year or two left but he's 32 years old and pricey. And no, Cooper Kupp and Deebo are both on the backsides of their careers and have extensive injury histories.

    They can probably get DJ Chark or Mike Williams for cheap to run 9 routes or win jump balls 25 yards downfield if they need a speed/deep guy. Save the cap space for Zach Tom and some of the others coming up for new contracts instead.

  7. #67
    Postal Rat HOFer Joemailman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    In a van down by the river
    Posts
    33,288
    Quote Originally Posted by run pMc View Post
    Jacobs isn't wrong. They need someone who can convert a 3rd and 4 in spite of tight man coverage consistently.
    GB's WRs are talented and have done well considering their age and draft pedigree, but they also need someone to step up.

    So...Jacobs is right, and the WRs are right if they are a little sensitive to the comment. If they want to be the alpha, they have to earn it by putting in the work and producing.

    the Jets would have to cut Adams since he's owed a ton of money, and they won't do that unless A-A-Ron isn't coming back. Personally I'd rather they look at the draft and maybe a cheaper speed guy who can play outside, and also that they used Kraft more (and more creatively). I think he can be a good player for converting 3rd downs if they featured him (like Kittle, Kelce, Andrews, McBride are) more. Adams is good and likely has a year or two left but he's 32 years old and pricey. And no, Cooper Kupp and Deebo are both on the backsides of their careers and have extensive injury histories.

    They can probably get DJ Chark or Mike Williams for cheap to run 9 routes or win jump balls 25 yards downfield if they need a speed/deep guy. Save the cap space for Zach Tom and some of the others coming up for new contracts instead.
    I don't see the Jets paying that kind of money to Adams. If they are willing to pay that kind of money to a WR, it would make more sense to trade Adams and sign Higgins who is 6-7 years younger. I'm on board with going after Adams if he's released or if the compensation in a trade isn't bad. The Packers young WR's could learn a lot from watching Adams for a couple years.
    Ring the bells that still can ring
    Forget your perfect offering
    There is a crack, a crack in everything
    That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen

  8. #68
    Wolf Pack Rat HOFer Deputy Nutz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    In Skin's basket
    Posts
    11,310
    I am not sure what the Jets were able to do with Adams contract. I am sure it's just yearly salaries at this point if a team was to take on his contract. Remember, he wanted to leave the Packers even with Aaron Rodgers. I know it was said that he wanted to play with Car his college teammate and the Raiders were happy to pay him. He is productive and will stay reasonably productive because of how he plays the game, he was never a speed guy. Adams is a fantastic route runner with great feet and has terrific hands.

    I wouldn't hate the fact if the packers gave up a 5th round or an even a 4th rounder for him. It's really not going to cost all that much. I am not sure if the attitude is where you want it to be though. Maybe a second time around and a fresh start with the Packers would be a strong sales pitch.

  9. #69
    Postal Rat HOFer Joemailman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    In a van down by the river
    Posts
    33,288
    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
    I am not sure what the Jets were able to do with Adams contract. I am sure it's just yearly salaries at this point if a team was to take on his contract. Remember, he wanted to leave the Packers even with Aaron Rodgers. I know it was said that he wanted to play with Car his college teammate and the Raiders were happy to pay him. He is productive and will stay reasonably productive because of how he plays the game, he was never a speed guy. Adams is a fantastic route runner with great feet and has terrific hands.

    I wouldn't hate the fact if the packers gave up a 5th round or an even a 4th rounder for him. It's really not going to cost all that much. I am not sure if the attitude is where you want it to be though. Maybe a second time around and a fresh start with the Packers would be a strong sales pitch.
    Davante's contract each of the next 2 years is a 35.6 million base with 2.6 million in bonuses. https://overthecap.com/player/davant...oogle_vignette The Jets last year gave up a conditional 3rd and did a restructure to lower the cap hit in 2024. Adams might be at the point of his career where the one thing left to accomplish is to win a title.
    Ring the bells that still can ring
    Forget your perfect offering
    There is a crack, a crack in everything
    That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen

  10. #70
    Postal Rat HOFer Joemailman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    In a van down by the river
    Posts
    33,288
    Ring the bells that still can ring
    Forget your perfect offering
    There is a crack, a crack in everything
    That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen

  11. #71
    Postal Rat HOFer Joemailman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    In a van down by the river
    Posts
    33,288
    The Packers are making an addition to the defensive side of Matt LaFleur’s coaching staff.

    Matt Zenitz of CBSSports.com reports that the team will hire Jamael Lett. Per the reprot, Lett will be a defensive backs quality control coach in Green Bay.

    Lett worked as a defensive coaching assistant focused on defensive backs with the Patriots last season. He worked at North Carolina, South Alabama, Akron, and Samford prior to making the move the the NFL ranks.

    Lett worked under defensive coordinator DeMarcus Covington in New England and Covington was hired as the defensive line coach by the Packers last month. Covington’s arrival has been the most significant change on the defensive side of the coaching staff in Green Bay this year.
    Ring the bells that still can ring
    Forget your perfect offering
    There is a crack, a crack in everything
    That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen

  12. #72
    Indenial Rat HOFer bobblehead's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Lying in the Weeds
    Posts
    19,896
    Personally I'm looking for Reed and Wicks to take a nice step forward this year. Year 3 is when guys like them stop thinking and just play. I'm worried about Dobbs brain. Not sure he is long for this league. If Musgrave can stay healthy I am in the minority in thinking they have enough targets. The only move I'm interested in right now is making the trade for Crosby or better yet, Garrett. We need a game wrecker. Gary isn't it. It would be nice if Gutes would draft football players instead of athletes. I'd love a Mike Green in the 1st this year. Production personified. Small school guy, you might even be able to trade back and land him depending on the combine.

    As always I want BPA though. Sick of Gutes drafting into perceived weaknesses only to find out we have other weaknesses. Name me one spot on the roster that can't be improved. We won't pick a RB/QB in the first for obvious reasons, but I won't complain with any other position of its the best guy we can land. This is a deep DT draft. Last year was deep at DT and CB. We avoided both like the plague. It was a great OT draft so we selected a guy who played LT since grade school and promptly put him at RG. I would expect that Gutes will perceive edge to be lacking and lean into a reach....I can only hope its Green. Problem is if he has a decent combine and this not being the best edge draft he might go before us.
    I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.

  13. #73
    Anti Homer Rat HOFer Bretsky's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Fort Atkinson, WI
    Posts
    33,086
    Blog Entries
    2
    I hope our 1st round draft pick from last year is not a disappointment.

    We need to stop sucking in round one.
    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

  14. #74
    Neo Rat HOFer Fritz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Detroitish
    Posts
    21,105
    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    I hope our 1st round draft pick from last year is not a disappointment.

    We need to stop sucking in round one.
    It seems pretty well established that early on in drafts - first two rounds - Guter takes big swings on uber athletic guys who may or may not have the production to go with that, in the hopes of getting guys who develop that into blue-chip NFLers. He goes for upside. But he's missed on a lot of them here - from Stokes to Van Ness (though he's got this year to show he's actually a good NFL player) to Christian Watson so far and Jordan Morgan so far. And Quay Walker and Darnell Savage. And Luke Musgrave.

    He's hit on some. Jordan Love - we hope - and Edgerrin Cooper seems to be shaping up. Jaire Alexander until his 'tude and health went south. Possible Devonte Wyatt? Not sure there.

    But yes, his hit rate in the first two rounds does not seem to be what it could be or ought to be. I think Ted Thompson was similar. Didn't Thompson say once he needed to be reminded sometimes to take guys who were football players and not just great athletes?
    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

    KYPack

  15. #75
    Postal Rat HOFer Joemailman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    In a van down by the river
    Posts
    33,288
    Ian Rapoport
    @RapSheet

    Sources: The #Packers have had trade conversations centered around star CB Jaire Alexander and they are open to moving him for the right price.

    Alexander, still just 28 and a two-time Pro Bowler, is considered to be the most decorated CB available.
    Ring the bells that still can ring
    Forget your perfect offering
    There is a crack, a crack in everything
    That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen

  16. #76
    Neo Rat HOFer Fritz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Detroitish
    Posts
    21,105
    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Ian Rapoport
    @RapSheet

    Sources: The #Packers have had trade conversations centered around star CB Jaire Alexander and they are open to moving him for the right price.

    Alexander, still just 28 and a two-time Pro Bowler, is considered to be the most decorated CB available.
    I know this is a lost cause, but it really bugs the hell out of me.

    I would like to remind these "sources" that "centered around" is an oxymoron. A "center" is the point in the middle of something. So you can center ON something, but if you're "around" it, then you're not centering.

    Oh, and why would anyone trade for Alexander when it's very very likely that he's going to be cut prior to June 1st?
    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

    KYPack

  17. #77
    Senior Rat Veteran SudsMcBucky's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Buford, GA
    Posts
    797
    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    I know this is a lost cause, but it really bugs the hell out of me.

    I would like to remind these "sources" that "centered around" is an oxymoron. A "center" is the point in the middle of something. So you can center ON something, but if you're "around" it, then you're not centering.

    Oh, and why would anyone trade for Alexander when it's very very likely that he's going to be cut prior to June 1st?
    Well, if a team is fine with his existing contract the way it is, they'd do it so they don't have to take the chance he picks somewhere else to go if he's a FA.

  18. #78
    We traded for Malik Willis when he was probably getting cut.

  19. #79
    Neo Rat HOFer Fritz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Detroitish
    Posts
    21,105
    Quote Originally Posted by SudsMcBucky View Post
    Well, if a team is fine with his existing contract the way it is, they'd do it so they don't have to take the chance he picks somewhere else to go if he's a FA.
    This is the part I don't quite get - it seems abundantly clear that that is a killer contract - unless I don't understand how trading a contract works - like if the Packers are responsible for some of it even if he's traded or something - anyway, why would anyone take on that contract when presumably they could sign him as a FA anyway sometime in May, and likely for less than his current contract, right?

    Willis was a different story - his contract was no impediment.

    Does a team have to be dumb to trade for Alexander when they could sign him for less later? Or really, if the Packers cut him, will there be a bidding frenzy that would drive the price close to what he's due to make now? I just don't quite get it. I wonder if I don't understand the process vis a vis trading a contract, or if I don't understand Alexander's perceived worth to other teams?
    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

    KYPack

  20. #80
    The Packers are stuck with the signing bonuses and restructuring portions even if traded. The team that would get him is only responsible for what remains. That being said, he'd still count around $17M for them. They might be able to restructure to lower that more, however.

    I don't know what he'd get on the open market, but the delta probably isn't huge and the team could guarantee getting him versus risk losing out to a team that bids higher or one that he goes to cheaper because they are a better team with a chance at winning the Superbowl, etc

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •