Packers Offseason/Free Agency/ Non-Draft Thread

[run pMc]

Metcalf is going to want an extension. Trading a high draft pick for the privilege of signing a player to an expensive contract is generally bad process.
I think he's a very good but not elite player and a R1 + Doubs is steep, whether you want to compare with Deebo or not.

I do think Metcalf would affect defenses in the way MLF wants though.

What they really need is for Wicks and Reed to figure out how to beat man coverage and not drop the ball when it hits their hands.

Watson's knee injury was separate from the other things he had prior to last season. I think the trip to Madison worked for him. He's in a contract year, and with him missing at least 2/3 of it, I suspect they could bring him back on a reasonable deal with incentives.

[Joemailman]

Not only would Metcalf want an extension, but the Packers would likely insist an extension be agreed to before giving up a high draft pick. Agree that trading a high pick for a guy you will have to pay big money to is not Gute's way of doing things.

[Deputy Nutz]

a player has to be really special and young to get a 1st round pick. Metcalf is awesome, I love his size and demeanor. He would be worth the contract especially pairing him with a much better QB than what they currently run out there in Seattle. He, like a lot of dudes are not getting a 1st round pick. I would think a 3rd or 4th would be the expected value along with a player like Doubs.

The Packers need a deep threat weapon and more importantly a physical weapon that can box out defensive backs and win the contested balls on a regular basis. I can't see them trading for Metcalf, but I tell you I wouldn't hate it.

[Joemailman]

Jeremy Fowler
@JFowlerESPN

Sources: #Packers are re-signing LB Isaiah McDuffie on a two-year, $8-million deal with upside to $9.5M.

McDuffie has 183 tackles over the last two seasons.

[MadtownPacker]

Interesting, because Doubs would be the first of those three that I would let go. Watson and Wicks scream potential above average. Doubs will be what he has been; good, mostly reliable, not an impact player. Doubs is more easily replaced. He has never had a 100 yard game during the regular season, has had only two games with more than 80 yards. He has no receptions of 40 or more yards. He breaks few tackles and has minimal YAC.

You know my opinion on Doubs is the opposite of yours and many others here, but you are correct in this situation. Hurt to say it, but the first hard shot he takes will probably take him out for a week or two. He is the best set of hands but health is bad. If Seattle took him ok but they would want Wicks or Watson. I say trade whichever is accepted for DK.

[MadtownPacker]

Deebo from 2021 would be worth more. 2024 Deebo isn't as good as 2024 Melcalf and it may be a bigger delta in 2025.

How much of that is the QB situation?

[ThunderDan]

Metcalf is going to want an extension. Trading a high draft pick for the privilege of signing a player to an expensive contract is generally bad process.
I think he's a very good but not elite player and a R1 + Doubs is steep, whether you want to compare with Deebo or not.

I do think Metcalf would affect defenses in the way MLF wants though.

What they really need is for Wicks and Reed to figure out how to beat man coverage and not drop the ball when it hits their hands.

Watson's knee injury was separate from the other things he had prior to last season. I think the trip to Madison worked for him. He's in a contract year, and with him missing at least 2/3 of it, I suspect they could bring him back on a reasonable deal with incentives.

100% agree with this post. You don't give up a 1st rounder for a player who only has 1 year left on his contract.

Deebo for a 5th. I would give a 3rd for Metcalf.

[Patler]

Interesting, because Doubs would be the first of those three that I would let go. Watson and Wicks scream potential above average. Doubs will be what he has been; good, mostly reliable, not an impact player. Doubs is more easily replaced. He has never had a 100 yard game during the regular season, has had only two games with more than 80 yards. He has no receptions of 40 or more yards. He breaks few tackles and has minimal YAC.

You know my opinion on Doubs is the opposite of yours and many others here, but you are correct in this situation. Hurt to say it, but the first hard shot he takes will probably take him out for a week or two. He is the best set of hands but health is bad. If Seattle took him ok but they would want Wicks or Watson. I say trade whichever is accepted for DK.

I'm not sure our opinions are that much different. I like Doubs, and think he is a valuable WR to have. He is effective, but not high impact. QBs seem to find him, and he is mostly reliable when thrown to. But, he has been the most targeted receiver the last 3 years, yet has no 100 yard games, only two games with 80+ yards, no 40+ yard receptions. You can't build a big-time passing game around Doubs as the primary receiver. Possession type receivers are valuable, but more easily found than true game breakers.

Given more opportunities, Malik Heath might develop into a suitable substitute (not replacement) for Doubs.

Wicks and Watson just have more potential, which I would like to see play out. I don't see Doubs ever being much more than he already is, which is decent even if not high impact.

[run pMc]

Agree of the top 4, Doubs has the lowest ceiling/upside. You could argue he has a higher floor than Wicks and Watson. He technically had a 100+ yard game vs. DAL in the playoffs last year.
I'd say he's been a good draft pick for a Day 3 WR, and I think he'll get a 2nd contract elsewhere for more than he'll struggle to perform up to. He's a good WR3/4 and some probably expect more than that.

I wouldn't rush out to sign him to a 3/45M deal, someone will. Gute needs to keep drafting WRs. MLF needs to develop them better.

[Deputy Nutz]

Metcalf is going to want an extension. Trading a high draft pick for the privilege of signing a player to an expensive contract is generally bad process.
I think he's a very good but not elite player and a R1 + Doubs is steep, whether you want to compare with Deebo or not.

I do think Metcalf would affect defenses in the way MLF wants though.

What they really need is for Wicks and Reed to figure out how to beat man coverage and not drop the ball when it hits their hands.

Watson's knee injury was separate from the other things he had prior to last season. I think the trip to Madison worked for him. He's in a contract year, and with him missing at least 2/3 of it, I suspect they could bring him back on a reasonable deal with incentives.

That Knee injury was due to the hamstring not protecting the knee, in most non-contact ACL injuries it is because the hamstring fails, so say what you what about his trip to Madison as there many factors to the hamstring and ACL injuries, but in most cases hamstring instability leads to the instability of the knee which then creates the potential for ACL injuries

[Deputy Nutz]

Jeremy Fowler
@JFowlerESPN

Sources: #Packers are re-signing LB Isaiah McDuffie on a two-year, $8-million deal with upside to $9.5M.

McDuffie has 183 tackles over the last two seasons.

I don't hate him, but he isn't special. I don't know how many draft picks the Packers want to continue to dump into their linebacker position group, so in that sense the signing makes sense because he really doesn't hurt you. Ty'ron Hopper was taken with a 4th round pick last year and his development has been slower than you want but unfortunately what you expected if you read his pre draft write ups. Also Eric Wilson was decent as well. My question is can Quay Walker finally take his final steps to becoming a consistent above average linebacker that is worthy of an extension?

[Fosco33]

That Knee injury was due to the hamstring not protecting the knee, in most non-contact ACL injuries it is because the hamstring fails, so say what you what about his trip to Madison as there many factors to the hamstring and ACL injuries, but in most cases hamstring instability leads to the instability of the knee which then creates the potential for ACL injuries

This is why I’d ship him over Doubs. I don’t think Watson can stay on the field to have production. And Doubs concussion issues could subside with time while Watsons recurring Hamstring (now ACL) put his ceiling lower imo.

[Deputy Nutz]

Hard to trade Watson when his 2025 season may be in doubt with the knee recovery. Teams usually don't like to trade for dudes that are currently in rehab mode

[MadScientist]

Hard to trade Doubs when the last image is of him barely able to walk due to another concussion, despite having the extra protection on his helmet.

[Sparkey]

Adams released by Jets

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/j...wide-receiver/

[CaptainKickass]

Kicker McManus signed for three years.

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-news-ro...uesday-march-4

[texaspackerbacker]

Absolutely Sign Davante!

[Deputy Nutz]

According to Rich Eisen, apparently the Browns have exactly zero interest in trading Myles Garrett.

[Fritz]

Well, re-signing the Scottish butthole was probably the most important signing the Packers could've made. Kickers don't cost that much, and now they've got one and have one less position to fret about.

[Joemailman]

I think there's a much better chance that the Packers sign MVS than Davante. Showed last year he still has his speed and would come cheap.