OFFICIAL AARON RODGERS THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[run pMc]

Queens OL appears to be prodigious. If the bum Darnold could do what he did last season with that offense, imagine what Butte could do.

Agree MIN is trying to improve the OL. Darnold is/was much more mobile than Rodgers though. he got flushed out of the pocket several times against Gb and other teams and hurt them scrambling for first downs. Rodgers days of doing that are gone.

Sure Rodgers had a bad OL in NYJ - I've been saying he'd struggle with that line since he was traded there - but his ADOT and ANY/A weren't that great, and it took him something like 30+ games to crack 300 yards passing. His arm still is good, but with aging QBs it's usually not the arm that's the problem. It's they can't move in the pocket anymore and don't like being hit, and when they do get hit (and get hit more often) they get hurt more easily.

I also think Rodgers is very set in his ways about what kind of offense he wants to run, and how much autonomy he has at the LOS to audible. Even in a QB friendly system KOC runs there would be a lot of friction. (ex. bye bye pre-snap motion.)
If the Vikes re no longer interested, my guess is it's because the mental makeup and salary demands weren't worth it.


Said it a dozen times already, he was a great great player, but he ain't a great player anymore.

[George Cumby]

He would ruin Minny the same way he ruined the Jets, why wouldn't we want him to go there?

He's toxic AF and Gute was right to dump him when he did.

[Fosco33]

He would ruin Minny the same way he ruined the Jets, why wouldn't we want him to go there?

He's toxic AF and Gute was right to dump him when he did.

That’s what I said.

Folks that don’t want that then have to admit he ‘may’ have gas in the tank or are worried about some Viking/packer legacy stuff. In practical matters - only next season matters.

[Patler]

By the standard of any QB other than himself, Rodgers was good last season. Brady was still good to an age several years more than Rodgers. It's more than likely that Rodgers' expected level would be what Brady was at the same age or better. Why wouldn't that be the expectation?

What you are actually saying, but can't seem to admit to yourself, is that Rodgers is no longer "special" as a starting QB. He has joined that group of QBs you often refer to as "others". Given that he no longer brings anything special, why should I or any other Packer fan care who he plays for?

[sharpe1027]

By the standard of any QB other than himself, Rodgers was good last season. Brady was still good to an age several years more than Rodgers. It's more than likely that Rodgers' expected level would be what Brady was at the same age or better. Why wouldn't that be the expectation?

Narrator: he did not have a good year by any standard.

[Joemailman]

Rodgers was 30th in passing yards per attempt, 13th in TD%, 17th in INT%, 34th in completion pct., 22nd in passer rating, 31st in QBR. He did get better second half of the season with Adams, but the greatness is gone.

[MadtownPacker]

What you are actually saying, but can't seem to admit to yourself, is that Rodgers is no longer "special" as a starting QB. He has joined that group of QBs you often refer to as "others". Given that he no longer brings anything special, why should I or any other Packer fan care who he plays for?

So we can watch him fail miserably!

[Joemailman]

Kevin Seifert
@SeifertESPN

Continuing to report out the Vikings' QB situation. Added some information to our story. The decision is to give J.J. McCarthy as many reps this spring as possible. If Aaron Rodgers is needed later for some reason and is available, he will be revisited.

[texaspackerbacker]

So much irrational hate in here for somebody who gave us all so much enjoyment for so long hahahaha. I'd call it "Rodgers Derangement Syndrome".

[Anti-Polar Bear]

He would ruin Minny the same way he ruined the Jets, why wouldn't we want him to go there?

He's toxic AF and Gute was right to dump him when he did.

And how exactly did Butte ruin the Jesters? Jesters were toothless long before Butte. Butte didn’t ruin anything - if anything, he failed to change that culture of toothlessness.

And how exactly is Butte toxic? Seeking alternative medicine, drinking psychedelic tea and hiding in the dark - all in the name of killing the ego and seeking love - ain’t in any shape, form, matter or anti-matter toxic, hombre.

In restless dreams, Butte walks alone on narrow streets of cobblestone. “Fools,” he says. "You do not know…Hear my words that I might teach you. Take my arms that I might reach you.”

[sharpe1027]

If you believe the common narrative Jets were supposed to be a solid team with a great defense, some promising pieces on offense that was being killed by poor QB play. When Rodgers signed people were talking about Superbowl aspirations. I don't think that's completely accurate, but the team wasn't viewed as toothless by many. After Rodgers, they are starting over with a whole new coaching staff, his dead salary. They are worse than when he joined.

So while Rodgers didn't ruin the Jets, he also didn't come close to the expectations.

[ThunderDan]

If you believe the common narrative Jets were supposed to be a solid team with a great defense, some promising pieces on offense that was being killed by poor QB play. When Rodgers signed people were talking about Superbowl aspirations. I don't think that's completely accurate, but the team wasn't viewed as toothless by many. After Rodgers, they are starting over with a whole new coaching staff, his dead salary. They are worse than when he joined.

So while Rodgers didn't ruin the Jets, he also didn't come close to the expectations.

You forgot to mention everyone else that ARod brought to NY.
ARod - $23,000,000
Devante - $8,362,000
Lazard (Still on the roster at this point) - $13,184,000

That's $44.5 M in dead or wasted cap space for the Jets this year becasue of the ARod experiment.

[George Cumby]

And how exactly did Butte ruin the Jesters? Jesters were toothless long before Butte. Butte didn’t ruin anything - if anything, he failed to change that culture of toothlessness.

And how exactly is Butte toxic? Seeking alternative medicine, drinking psychedelic tea and hiding in the dark - all in the name of killing the ego and seeking love - ain’t in any shape, form, matter or anti-matter toxic, hombre.

In restless dreams, Butte walks alone on narrow streets of cobblestone. “Fools,” he says. "You do not know…Hear my words that I might teach you. Take my arms that I might reach you.”

What is this reality where I'm bashing K-aaron and you're defending him? LOL.

Bring back Harambe.

[Fosco33]

Oh man. I agree w/ tank on something. Shit.

[QBME]

Oh man. I agree w/ tank on something. Shit.

[Joemailman]

Gerry Dulac
@gerrydulac

BREAKING: Aaron Rodgers is at the Steelers facility today, an indication a deal with the team could be forthcoming, per sources.

[MadScientist]

You forgot to mention everyone else that ARod brought to NY.
ARod - $23,000,000
Devante - $8,362,000
Lazard (Still on the roster at this point) - $13,184,000

That's $44.5 M in dead or wasted cap space for the Jets this year because of the ARod experiment.

You forgot that they also brought in Nathaniel Hackett as OC to help lure Rodgers. Not a direct cap expense, but he certainly didn't help them build a functional offense. The Jets are in a worse place after Rodgers than before, and a lot of it is tied to Rodgers.

[Fosco33]

GM Rodgers wasn’t very good

[Anti-Polar Bear]

You forgot that they also brought in Nathaniel Hackett as OC to help lure Rodgers. Not a direct cap expense, but he certainly didn't help them build a functional offense. The Jets are in a worse place after Rodgers than before, and a lot of it is tied to Rodgers.

Hackett was paid the minimum by the Jesters since Denver was on the hook for Hackett’s contract.

Getting an ex-head coach as OC for the minimum is a bargain.

[ThunderDan]

How did the HC gig go for Hackett in Denver? Was he a top tier HC? Did he even last a year?