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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    What you are actually saying, but can't seem to admit to yourself, is that Rodgers is no longer "special" as a starting QB. He has joined that group of QBs you often refer to as "others". Given that he no longer brings anything special, why should I or any other Packer fan care who he plays for?
    Because if he plays for Minny it would seem to help GB's chances if defeating the Vikes.

    Then there's the Schadenfreude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    Because if he plays for Minny it would seem to help GB's chances if defeating the Vikes.

    Then there's the Schadenfreude.
    I ain’t dumb, so I realize that you, as a proud Michigan grad, see Jenny McCarthy’s Oedipal son, JJ, as the greatest QB since Brady. But I reckon, at this stage of their respective careers, Butte is the better QB.

    I reckon the Queens struggle like a poor poker player on tilt this season with the Oedipal son at QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    How did the HC gig go for Hackett in Denver? Was he a top tier HC? Did he even last a year?
    Irrelevant.

    You’re the one who brought up wasted frogskins. I merely pointed out that the Jesters got Hackett for a bargain.

    Btw, superstars like Butte attract audiences, and audiences force the networks to pony up, providing sumptuous frogskins for the pig-owners to pay the players. And the cap can always be cooked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
    Irrelevant.

    You’re the one who brought up wasted frogskins. I merely pointed out that the Jesters got Hackett for a bargain.

    Btw, superstars like Butte attract audiences, and audiences force the networks to pony up, providing sumptuous frogskins for the pig-owners to pay the players. And the cap can always be cooked.
    I brought up Hackett, and specifically noted it wasn't an expense thing. So the direct cost is irrelevant. Cheap shit is still shit, and he cost the Jets two years of development.
    Fire Murphy, Gute, MLF, Barry, Senavich, etc!

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    Rodgers did some great things for GB and is a 1st ballot HOF. That's not changing, unless he does really awful criminal stuff.

    What has changed is his performance on the field. He's no longer a player who can drag a team to the playoffs like he did a few times with McCarthy. He's a player you win with, not win because of. He's tettering into player who hurts you because of his declining athleticism and stubbornness to only play his way.
    Makes me think he thinks he knows more than his coaches and doesn't want to be coached anymore.

    That's not a guy you want to pay $35M to.

    The Jets had a good defense and very good skill players when Rodgers arrived: Breece Hall, Garrett Wilson, etc. so he didn't have a bare cupboard. They traded a pick and took on salary for Adams, who helped once he got healthy/acclimated. There was way too much in season turmoil going on for that team to be focused on playing well every week and it showed. No matter where Rodgers goes there will be a lot of media coverage because he says and does such bonkers things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadScientist View Post
    I brought up Hackett, and specifically noted it wasn't an expense thing. So the direct cost is irrelevant. Cheap shit is still shit, and he cost the Jets two years of development.
    Hackett is a so-called disciple of LaFleur, who himself is a disciple of Shanahan. Salah wanted the Shanahan system. Pig-owner forced out the other LaFleur. Hackett was available. And for a bargain. A logical hire.

    Not even Shanahan would be able to do shit with that OL of the Jesters. The same Shanahan who couldn’t do shit with the Dog Farts (Browns).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
    Hackett is a so-called disciple of LaFleur, who himself is a disciple of Shanahan. Salah wanted the Shanahan system. Pig-owner forced out the other LaFleur. Hackett was available. And for a bargain. A logical hire.

    Not even Shanahan would be able to do shit with that OL of the Jesters. The same Shanahan who couldn’t do shit with the Dog Farts (Browns).
    He somehow, throughout all practices, never realized that cut blocks by the tackles would get Rodgers flattened, since he likes to hold the ball for the best possible play. I recognized this on their first pass play in 23. They did it again and Rodgers was out for the year. That speaks to Hackett being a bad communicator, or just too dumb to realize what is going on. Pedigree means nothing, when the guy is not good enough at his job. It was a hire to lure Rodgers and it failed spectacularly for the Jets.
    Fire Murphy, Gute, MLF, Barry, Senavich, etc!

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    Rodgers still unsigned as the Steelers OTA’s begin tomorrow. Is he really interested in playing football?

    https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...-aaron-rodgers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teamcheez1 View Post
    Rodgers still unsigned as the Steelers OTA’s begin tomorrow. Is he really interested in playing football?

    https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...-aaron-rodgers
    Playing futbol on Sundays? Highly likely.

    Throwing rocks at half speed and pumping irons with a bunch of young uns at the irrelevant OTAs? Nada.

    Lumpensteelers run the same shit on offense that the Packers do. Arthur Smith, the trust fund OC, is a disciple of the Frog, the current Packer head honcho. Butte knows Frog’s offense like Tony O’Day knows idiocy. No need to show up for the meaningless OTAs.

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    PITTSBURGH -- Four-time MVP quarterbacks come to those who wait.

    And wait. And wait.

    Aaron Rodgers plans to sign with the Pittsburgh Steelers, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter, ending months of uncertainty around his future and uniting the future Hall of Famer with a team that desperately needs a quarterback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    PITTSBURGH -- Four-time MVP quarterbacks come to those who wait.

    And wait. And wait.

    Aaron Rodgers plans to sign with the Pittsburgh Steelers, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter, ending months of uncertainty around his future and uniting the future Hall of Famer with a team that desperately needs a quarterback.
    The reason he came to the team that waited is that no other team was even waiting. But in Pittsburg's defense, they are only giving up money for him to ruin their season, not draft picks as well.
    Fire Murphy, Gute, MLF, Barry, Senavich, etc!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadScientist View Post
    The reason he came to the team that waited is that no other team was even waiting. But in Pittsburg's defense, they are only giving up money for him to ruin their season, not draft picks as well.
    I think you are going to see a pretty good Aaron this year. Pitt is a nice fit for him. They aren't the Jets. This is a successful franchise and Tomlin is exactly the kind of coach that will tolerate all of Rodgers quirks as long as he gets results, and Rodgers has proven that he is a pretty good OC....I mean, he made Hackett look competent. (Hackett knows he's not NFL material and just let Rodgers do his thing). Truthfully I think this was as good of a fit as Rodgers could possibly find. A compliant HC and a somewhat talented roster. Fat mike let Rodgers run the show and we made a lot of NFCC games. Fat Mike wasn't even as good of a coach as Tomlin.
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    Have to agree with Bobble. Dont see any loser in the arrangement. Also that AARon will have a little bit of a comeback season going all out to end things on his terms.

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    I tend to agree with you. I think it rubs Rodgers the wrong way that some people write him off as finished when his rival for GOAT played pretty well to a few years old than Rodgers is now.
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    Bradshaw is an ass. I hope the Lumpensteelers assign Butte the 12.

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    If he stays healthy, he will have a decent year with mostly short to midrange throws. Last year it seemed his long game was gone.

    The big hurdle he faces is with his legs. He has had numerous injury issues over the years with his legs. If one of those comes back again, at his age, it could change his entire season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
    Bradshaw is an ass. I hope the Lumpensteelers assign Butte the 12.
    He should be 10 since he is halfway as good when he was 12 but not as bad as when he was 8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadtownPacker View Post
    He should be 10 since he is halfway as good when he was 12 but not as bad as when he was 8.
    10 is too Lovemaker. But it does make sense for someone who has experienced ego death and is now all about love.

    I still would like to see Butte don the 12 just to fuck with Bradshaw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    If he stays healthy, he will have a decent year with mostly short to midrange throws. Last year it seemed his long game was gone.

    The big hurdle he faces is with his legs. He has had numerous injury issues over the years with his legs. If one of those comes back again, at his age, it could change his entire season.
    There’s a big difference between mobility and footwork. Pretty sure Brady and Bert Favor can still sling a rock pretty far since their footworks should still be fundamentally sound. Ditto, Butte. Butte just can’t run like he did in the heyday.

    Payton Manning and Dree Brees can’t throw rocks anymore due largely to neck/shoulder injuries, and both don’t have a history of leg injuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
    There’s a big difference between mobility and footwork. Pretty sure Brady and Bert Favor can still sling a rock pretty far since their footworks should still be fundamentally sound. Ditto, Butte. Butte just can’t run like he did in the heyday.

    Payton Manning and Dree Brees can’t throw rocks anymore due largely to neck/shoulder injuries, and both don’t have a history of leg injuries.
    There's a big difference between throwing the ball far and throwing it far and on the money. Rodgers has show no signs of being a better than average QB since 2021. Thinking an old player will recover his form is the kind of blind hopefulness that has GM's seeking employment elsewhere after the season. Also Pittsburgh gave up a fair number of sacks last year with mobile QB's, which isn't a good sign for Rodgers. Rodgers habit of letting the 'perfect play' be the enemy of the good play will not serve him well as he ages and has to adjust to new receivers who don't know his quirks. He'll make a few great plays that get his fans excited, but overall it won't be much different than last year was for him.
    Fire Murphy, Gute, MLF, Barry, Senavich, etc!

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