I guess Harlan's taking the day off.Originally Posted by Tarlam!
I guess Harlan's taking the day off.Originally Posted by Tarlam!
If that was truly an inherent part of our democracy, we would not have needed the Bill of Rights.Originally Posted by hoosier
Personally, when I think of a democracy, I DO think of the possibility of tyranny by the majority. That is a basic flaw in a democracy. Thus, you have to establish laws and a justice system to temper the acts of the majority in a democracy.
Hoosier...are you supporting this site with your hard earned cash? If not, then you have ZERO RIGHT to be the minority bully determining what is or isn't right and demanding change.Originally Posted by hoosier
If you don't like the format here, leave. Otherwise, what is the big deal? If you are an asshat, you deserve to be banned.
My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?
Well, I'm not for banning any old asshat, but the "mother of all asshats" might be a different story.
Precisely. Hoosier claimed exactly the opposite, and now has backtracked by bringing up liberty or some other term to describe what he meant. This vote is entirely democratic...and I think it is a very fair way in this context to determine the consequence.Originally Posted by Patler
If Hoosier is worried about precident, this shows that the moderators aren't just banning people at random...if you piss off the majority of the forum, you are likely to get tossed when the moderators put it up for a vote. So, the lesson is to not piss off the majority of the forum on a consistent basis.
What the hell is bad about that lesson?
My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?
So what if the rules on this site are applied arbitrarily and unequally?Originally Posted by hoosier
Does any of us have a RIGHT to be here? Not really. We are all guests.
If the arbitrary and unequal application of the rules gets out of hand, the board will soon enough disappear; so assuming those who control it really want it to continue and flourish there is a check on their "rulings".
On a site such as this, for activity such as this, "tyranny by the majority" really causes no injustice, because no legitimate right is lost; and it controls the activity and refines the nature of the board to that which the majority of the participants want it to be.
If some are extremely offended by banning Tank, they will leave.
If some are extremely offended by Tanks presence, they will leave.
For the good of the board the wishes of the majority should prevail.
I have gotten past the point of Tank being amusing; he's now fully in annoying mode.
Wasn't thrilled when Texas got here, either. His "it's all aliberal conspiracy" rhetoric gets old fast. Having said that, Tex keeps his political bloviating confined to the Romper Room, which is the way I thought this site was supposed to work.
I voted yes for the banning, but I'm now having second thoughts...
Second thoughts - hate Coldplay, can't stand Gwyneth Paltrow, and "extreme liberal" (extreme ANYTHING) is just mind-numbingly dumb.
Aarrg. Mercy, understanding and second chances for now.
Be-headings later.
"What's one more torpedo in a sinking ship?"
Lynn Dickey, 1984
"Never apologize, mister. It's a sign of weakness."
John Wayne, "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon"
As a side note...
I think it is HILARIOUS that Hoosier is whining about rights and not following the letter of the law when his avatar is none other than Bob Knight.
Talk about someone who didn't give a rat's ass about "democracy" or anyone's rights. His way or the highway. If it was up to Bob Knight, Tank would be getting choked right now.
My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?
I could give a rats ass if he goes or stays. I do think it was nice of the mods to give us a vote. They coulda & probably shoulda just removed this jerk without consulting anyone! He really wouldn't be missed!
If you're not a Packer fan, you're not a football fan!
He does have the right. When MadTown put it up to a vote, he gave us all a right. IMHO, Hoosier is simply stating his opinion and asking for clarificaton of the rules. At worst, you can both agree to disagree.Originally Posted by The Leaper
But Hoosier, the forum is what it is. You can make suggestions and requests but eventually all decisions areMadTown's and if you don't agree with his decisions then you have to decide whether you can live with the forum as-is or if you need to find another place to POST.
Finally, I could give a crap whether APB/Tank goes or stays. When I see a thread he has started I don't even read it. If I HAD to vote, I would say bye-bye.
My house is in Georgia but Wisconsin is my home.
I have no problem with Hoosier stating his opinion. Personally, I was just noting that I don't agree with his definition of democracy. I don't mind people having an opposing view either.Originally Posted by AtlPackFan
I think this poll is indictment on all of us. If Tank was ignored, he'd go away, but people didn't ignore him. Fundamentally, I have hard time voting to ban somebody. I voted yes only because I think the quality of this forum has gone way down since his return.
Isn't Hoosier a liberal? Funny that he'd talk about the rights of the minority. Liberals tend to be the ones to pass seat belt laws, smoking bans in privately-owned establishments, helmet laws, gun bans, etc. I guess the rights of the minority are only protected when the rights agree with their own personal interest. Otherwise, an argument will be that the issue affects everybody--when most of the time it has little affect on others. In this case, at least I was given an opportunity to cast a meaningful vote on the issue.
I'm usually not a "banning" type of person particularly in regards to free speech issues and most of Anti Polar Bears crap is so boring I just ignore it...but when you create 35+ user accounts as a moderator stated that leads one to believe he/she has some nefarious activity in mind.
C.H.U.D.
How does this even apply? The fact that he was already banned overrules whatever else.Originally Posted by hoosier
Originally Posted by Pack-man
Just wait until he starts calling TT a moron for not signing Joey Harrington to lead the Packers during the years after Favre.
Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow
To much of a good thing is an awesome thing
Just like the last Packers - Vikings gameOriginally Posted by packers11
-digital dean
No "TROLLS" allowed!
So, who voted for Tank? Hoosier? Tank? Mazzin? Probably Harlan. Off with their heads too.
Actually, I'm kind of indifferent, but I did pile on with my "yes" vote.
Main conern on my end us what HW brought up. Quality if the forum is not as good with all the drivel and eventually good posters will get sick of it.
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?