This SB victory brings new perspective to the Favre debate. Clearly since Bob Harlan hired Ron Wolf and changed the way football is operated in Green Bay, the Packers were going to be strong with our without Favre. This proves the without part of that sentence.
He had a long, accomplished career, but the idol worship seems to be rightfully tossed out after this Packer win and Favre loss.
I'd summarize Favre this way. He played a really long time, so long that it's legendary. He was a gunslinger who made a lot of tight risky throws. His interceptions cost him and his team a lot of big games. His arrogance and attitude separated himself from the team for several years. He was a really good QB for a long time and over time he put up outrageous career numbers. However, for all that he accumulated over time, he was always one of about 10 really good QB's in the league and he always could have been replaced by another really good QB. He was never irreplacable. Thompson replaced him in one try and had he not gotten Rodgers he would have replaced him anyway. He was never irreplacable or special in that regard. He was always overrated and replaceable in Green Bay.
And that's not even a knock. I feel that way about any QB. Put Palmer in NE and Brady in Cinci. I don't know if Palmer gets 3 rings, but I guarantee you Brady doesn't. Brady won with great defenses and damn good ST's. Palmer never had either.
Last edited by RashanGary; 02-17-2011 at 11:09 PM.
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I enjoy the Favre debate. As time goes by, I'll eventually be one of hte old timers that talks about how overrated he was. I was big fan of a lot of those teams and the credit Favre took from his teammates over the years with his dramatic, "me me" personality is always something I will remind people of when we look back on those great teams that always seemed to fall short with a bone headed interception.
I am SICK, SICK, SICK of listening to the FAVRE crap!!!! SICK OF IT!!!! He brought us ONE RING.... he has multiple SELF CENTRIC STATS... but ONE RING to the team... You know... I don't care who flames me.... I can be schooled by many of the intelligent, Packer educated folks on this board... but this guy NEEDS TO GO AWAY already! It's a new day... it's a new team... it's a new era... Brett Favre doesn't bring "dynasty" to my mind... how could he with one fucking ring... anywhoo.... he seems like a now annointed irrelevent individual who is trying desparately to cling to his "relevancy".... just sayin'... blechhhh....
Football been very very good to me
I don't know Cheryl... I need a mop... and a wheelchair....and some kind of respirtory disorder that I talk with strangers about when I'm out smoking cigarettes..... by the way... can you take Mama back home? I think I can circumnavigate the rigor....lol CAN I GET A HALF?
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Yea right JH! hahaaha...
Right on JH. Favre is so overrated because ....?
Last time I checked. He owns just about every significant NFL passing record 'at this time', in his retiring /unretiring career.
If he was such real bum as an NFL QB? If he sucked terribly? How could this thread last nearly 400 pages now on such a bum? I just shake my head. It's unbelievable.
It's so amazing. (-;
** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
Fuck yea baby!
C.H.U.D.
Life was better when this thread was on page 7. Someone said they wanted to see it at 400 pages...I can only hope it drifts away after that.
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Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
Moving towords 400 pages. 7975 posts with this one.
An amazing thread that certainly contains all the emotions of PackerRat members. An analysis of the personalty's of people at PackerRats could be focused on this thread alone, by anyone so inclined to waste their time.
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** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
add this bit of statistical trivia Re this thread:
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Maybe it should be retired before the weight of it on the starboard side casts the ship ashore. (-;
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** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
Why does it have to go away for life to be better? Anyone who does not want to deal with the emotions and rhetoric of the thread should simply not open it. By opening it, and replying, you simply reinforce why it will remain, at least for a while yet.
It really is not hard to ignore a thread that you have tired of.
This thread is a historical document. Years from now when people study the effect that the Favre Saga had on Packer fans, they will find this thread a goldmine of information.
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