If you check pb. Favre asked for his outright release as soon as it became obvious to him that the Packers we're moving to Aaron Rodgers as the NO. 1 QB.
What was reported was that the Packers kept checking with him at various times during the off-season to see if he wanted to come back, and by all accounts, he kept saying he was retired. Did you expect the Packers to just give him his outright release as a going away gift without any compensation? Who does that with a player of Favre's value?
Favre got to know TT and MM and how they play their game POKER and his life. This wasn't 'Rocket Science' to that country boy. TT and MM aren't difficult to understand.
Not really sure what you mean by this statement. There was no gun to Brett's head when he decided to retire. If you can prove he was forced out, I'd like to know how. People who want to keep playing do not retire. I know of one player who retired, and then walked back in during training camp thinking he might get his job back, likely realizing he wouldn't, so he could get his freedom. If he got upset that the Packers didn't grant his outright release, then he didn't learn much about the business side of football.
Brett Fave and Deanna didn't arrive in Green Bay with Favre's agent for dinner at Faver's home there. They all weren't just dieing to dine at Applebee's...again. Have a steak at Brett Favre's steak house if that even existed. Favre was well aware of the bullshit.
What bullshit? That he retired? That he kept telling the Packers during the offseason before '08 that he was sure he was retired? That he came back when he knew it was not likely he would get his starter job back? Is that the bullshit you speak of?
It was clearly showdown time. Time for Brett Favre to cut bait with TT and MM. Damn ...it got so stinking wrong... that even today Ted Thompson can't talk about it; and MM isn't far removed from that. The Favre haters want to direct it all to Brett Favre and waffeling and never acknowledge the way that MM acted. The way that TT always acts.
Ted Thompson and MM simply should have been 'men enough' to simply be honest in total regards to an obvious to this Packer fan need. I saw that need building the day that Aaron Rodgers was drafted. I assume then that TT and MM had to realize that same need as I'm sure Aaron Rodgers did.
It was showdown time because of the way one person handled his business. Again, he decided to retire and stay away until he likely knew the Packers would not give him his job back, unless he really thought they would, in which case, he miscalculated. That was a poor way to handle his business. I don't think he wanted to be in Green Bay anymore, but didn't want to look like the bad guy.
That need too simple:
To inform Brett Favre soon after the end of that season. That next year or in the 2008 season. They needed to move forward with Aaron Rodgers. Nope.... they had to play out their silly ass'd game. Anyone who believed after his outstanding 2007 season that Favre was done. Was either naïve or seriously not paying attention to the man that Brett Favre is then and will remain.
Who retired? Brett did. Was there a gun to his head? The man retired and then changed his mind, but from my previous post, I think he handled it this way to get out of Green Bay. 1. Retire, but don't mean it. 2. Wait until worst possible time to want to come back 3. Don't get your wish to get released, so you get traded. I think based on how he handled the situation, he got what he deserved.
I don't think anyone was displeased with Favre's play in 2007.
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Do you posters here really believe that TT and MM are that naïve? If you do then I'll inform you that... 'if your right' ? The Green Bay Packers are both over the top too lucky and at the same time given any moderation of luck .... in seriously poor shape.
The fact is that any mention of the word bullshit must be applied clearly to Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy in terms of the Brett Favre end in Green Bay. These men and I'll be very polite... handled Brett Favre very clumsily.
Oh? Did they force him to retire? If so, how? He got up on the podium and retired, which was his right to do. If he didn't mean it, he shouldn't have done it. It sounds like Green Bay would have had him back in 2008, had he not retired that March. Favre was the clumsy one, but I think the clumsiness was calculated to come at a time that would Green Bay to choose between him and Rodgers, knowing at the time he came back that they would likely have moved on, unless he thought he could just walk right back in and get his job back, which would have been a miscalculation. Again, I don't think he was expecting that, which is why he came back when he did. Calculated clumsiness; mission accomplished.
Ohh yea...this one. Brett Favre and today and living in utter misery.
Nope! Wrong again I certainly expect. By wishing or observing this as a TRUTH does not discount the sudden bad fortune that can overtake us all. That lessened as a fact in our lives by all attempts to live decently and still get a blast out of it.
I love every day 'of LIFE'. Life amazes me as much as the differences in people. I handle most of that with an excellent sense of the haha. That doesn't ever mean that I cannot be disposed to the darkness that resides in some people (even) posters that live part of their lives here.
I'm an astute man. I'm also never ' a coward'.
Don't strain your arm patting yourself on the back!
Brett Favre's Life today:
The idea that he's severely depressed about the way he was disrespected in Green Bay is just more delusion. Delusion with very possibly little real compassion. Just more bunk-negative hype. Poor Brett Favre hate mongering!? Delusion after delusion...falsification...to outright lies...certain and common disrespect among hate mongers.
That exists in any society that doesn't have men like me to stand strong against it.
Men like me that doesn't understand the prudence in such a stance to protect the best that society deserves.
Is Brett Favre depressed and otherwise in some severe state of depression or melancholy.
Just because any of us admire someone because they were a great or legendary football player for our favorite team, doesn't mean we are always going to agree with the way they handle their business. He's human, he has flaws like any of us. What separates him is his athletic ability, not his humanity or ability to be flawed or make mistakes, so even if you admire what he did as a Packer, it's OK to think he played his part in the separation from the Packers. I refuse to believe it was just big, bad management running poor, innocent Favre out of town. That's just not the truth. Brett doesn't deserve that much homerism. Nobody does.
I don't think so. Brett Favre 'I hope', has a pretty decent life. Following any of that through the media certainly projects that as a fact. Brett Favre is doing very well out of the NFL and contributing at the High School level; his football expertise, as the humble man he has been and continues to be.
All that considering his startling or staggering NFL Iconic status is amazing to me. All that he is today 'only' lends more to his obvious LEGENDARY Status. All that will ensure that his number will be retired and he will be proudly inducted into the Green bay Packer HOF when the timing is 'just right' for Brett Favre.
I really hope that gets done before his first ballot induction into the NFL HOF.
Couldn't agree more, Woody. He was a great Packer. He was exciting to follow and made it fun to watch the team. He had a fun personality. Like most older players, it's probably hard to let go and retire, or know when it's the right time to go. I think Green Bay wanted him after 2007, but I don't know if he wanted Green Bay, and I don't think he ever wanted to look like the "bad guy". He had a right to retire, and he had a right to not decide his future until training camp. The Packers had the right to move on at some point so they could make their plans for the upcoming season. I give the Packer organization credit for making and sticking to a plan and not being held up, or getting too sentimental about what an aging players plans are. They were right to be ready, knowing that Bret had the right to retire and had indicated he might prior to March 2008. If they never draft a successor to Favre, and just ride it out to the bitter end out of respect to Brett, then everyone kills the front office for not planning. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I give them credit for keeping the longer-term in mind, which is why the Packers transitioned away from Brett without having the tremendous drop-off that some teams have after a legendary QB leaves.
I hope Favre and the Packers organization can get together on some kind of celebration of his career in Green Bay and retirement of his number. He deserves the honor for what he did throughout the time he played for Green Bay. It's hard to ignore his Packer exit, but it's way more fun to think of his overall career as a Packer.
GO PACK GO !