Incognito is being investigated for his role in this. No surprise there. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/99...an-martin-case
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Is he gay? What else can grown men w Harvard pedigree get panties in bunch about via ribbing?
ok I see I was late w my assumption....
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ESPN with some allegations toward Richie Incognito for intimidating Jonathan Martin, including that he made Martin give $15k to a.Vegas trip
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A trip that Martin didn't go on, btw. ESPN says there are texts and a voicemail that show pattern of intimidation. Interesting
CBS has Incog as the main guy and Pouncey also involved...
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So a rookie has to chip in on an annual Vegas Trip that is team building but he doesn't go he should still have to pay that's his right of passage. We always hear about rooks getting stuck spending cash on the vets.
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$15,000. ???? Buying a turkey or snuff is one thing, but $15,000? That's flat out extortion.
How long does the guy remain a rookie? I don't know when the trip was, but I assume it was in the off season. His "rookiedom" should have stopped by then. Apparently half way through his second season, there was no let-up.
I wonder what KFC wings are costing Boyd and Jones weekly this year? Probably not a thousand a week.
Rodgers and the O lineman took Bach out to eat and gave him a phony $10,000 bill. Rodgers and Co. then teased him mercilessly for believing such an outrageous bill for 8-10 guys.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Had the totals wrong in Bach hazing dinner. It was an $11,000 dummy bill for 13 players in St. Louis during preseason. No details on how much the actual bill was.
http://www.espnwisconsin.com/common/...9311&is_corp=1
On the other hand, its now easier to believe why Incognito was always voted by players as one of the dirtiest. His teammates were helping elect him.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Fuck these guys. Intimidated and threatened by a dude who is 30 IQ points smarter than they are so they attack, attack, attack.
Incognito suspended indefinitely by the Dolphins.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
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Based on what little that can be gleaned from this, I can't imagine Martin can return to that team. Nor can I imagine that Philbin can succeed as coach. If the league has to step in on something which should have been handled internally, I think he's lost that locker room.
Lots of speculation and emoting going on in this thread. I'll just wait for the facts.
It's quite possible that the situation isn't as sensational as it warrants. Did Martin overreact? I guess we will know when the details come out.
However, since the Dolphins suspended Incognito indefinitely, I think they owe their fans at least a cursory explanation of why they took that action. They won't provide one, probably under orders from the NFL legal brass, so we just have to wait and hope that the league will do a better job on this one than they did in the "Bounty-gate" scandal.
I can't imagine they would have suspended Incognito "indefinitely" without clear evidence of actions very much over the top of what is acceptable. They have to be very sure about what went on, and it must have been extreme.
It must have been extreme for a guy to react like he did and feel he had to leave the premises. Philbin has a big mess on his hands and he didn't handle it well at all. I can't imagine Joe had no clue this kind of crap wasn't going on.