The gamble to keep two young QB's instead of a journeyman

[DonHutson]

It paid off due to the toughness of Rodgers, and in a twisted way because the season went down the tubes and playing a rookie at any point in the past month wouldn't have made a difference.

I maintain that Ted made the Brohm pick because he thought Brohm would be better immediately than any vet that was available. That was clearly incorrect.

But if Rodgers had gone down most of the same crappy vets would've been there in mid-season that were there in the off-season (yeah you, Duante), so I guess that's another way it was a decent gamble.

[MadScientist]

It may be better for the future, but had there been a serviceable journeyman QB on the roster, they might have sat Rodgers for a week or two after his shoulder injury. This would have let it heal better / faster, and possibly given them a chance against TB.

[bobblehead]

From listening to the interviews it appears TT really liked Brohm and thought he was a 1st round caliber guy. Remember Rodgers looked like crap in year one as well. He may turn out.

With that being said, I too was hoping we'd go with a DL and bring in a backup. We could still have ended up with Flynn.

this is the problem with putting on the blinders and just picking BPA.

IMO, we had much bigger needs then jordy nelson for our #4 wr and brohm with our first 2 picks

i'll admit jordy has looked good this year, but we already had 3 guys on the roster that were capable, 5 if you include ruvells solid play and k-rod. we had much much much greater needs then another wr and young qb

thats why i say, yes you draft BPA, but you do it for a position of need. IMO wr, and qb were not positions of need in the last draft

And DL wasn't a position of need when we drafted Harell.

[gbgary]

nobody really knew what AR was gonna be like so the picks didn't surprise me at all. they need to decide which to keep and trade the other.

[texaspackerbacker]

Nice poll results so far.

We haven't needed a backup of either kind up to now. It would take three things to occur for the strategy to be bad: 1 Rodgers getting hurt, 2 That happening when the Packers were in the running for the playoffs, and 3 Flynn and Brohm to both have their chance and flop.

The likely goal and the likely end result of all this is for one or even both of these two to bring a decent draft choice in trade--like Brunell, Hasselbeck, I think Aaron Brooks, etc.

[Pugger]

At the time of the draft we needed a backup QB. TT and MM weren't enchanted by any of the FA vets out there after they took a peek at Daunte evidently. When it came time to make the pick TT took the BPA according to his board and I remember a lot of fans were intrigued by Brohm and thought it was a great pick that day. He and Matt struggled as most rookie QBs do. They should improve with an offseason in MM's QB school.

[DonHutson]

And DL wasn't a position of need when we drafted Harell.

But we sure needed him this year. And with Jones hurt most of the year, it was great having Nelson available.

You draft a guy for (hopefully) the next 5 years or more. It will likely take the guy a year or two (or more) to really become effective. Meanwhile, needs change radically every year.

So if you pass on better players to fill an immediate need with a lesser player that probably won't be ready to play immediately anyway - that's like the little Dutch boy sticking his fingers in the dike to stop the flood. Just get the best players and build a better wall in the first place.

Now obviously that needs to be tempered by common sense. You can't just keep picking the same position year after year. I don't think Ted has done that. His first and second round picks have been: QB, S, WR, LB, WR, G, DT, RB, WR, QB, CB

So he's spread his top picks around pretty successfully, when you consider the first WR on the list was Terrence Murphy.

[RashanGary]

Nice post, DH. Using that logic (which I think is sound and right up TT's alley) I would think the player we pick could be one of several position.

OC, P and K are almost never high first round picks
S, OG and TE are rarely high first rounder
WR and QB we really don't need right now


Of the positions that tend to be highly valued by NFL GM's, I think we need a few more than others. These would be positions that need woudl break the tie breaker. They are: (best odds but based on availablity in the draft)

DE
DT
OT
CB

Then, if there is a superstud at an unusual position there would be a chance at: (also good chances but based on availablity and these positions don't tend to be valued as highly by most GM's and we have a high pick)

TE
S
OG

Then I think it would go to a position we really don't need but TT can't find a trading partner and believes very strongly in one guy over another. In this case we could get: (positions that are often taken high but we don't need. Ted is stubborn enough to take one of if he thinks he has a Randy Moss or Peyton Manning)

WR
QB

The only positions I really don't think we'll draft with a high pick because nothing worthy will be available are:

K
P
OC

[RashanGary]

At the end of the day, I guess it could be jsut about anyone, but tie breakers and deduction can give us better odds for some psoitions than others.

[DonHutson]

Yeah, looking at the (very) early draft boards, DL or OT seem to offer the best confluence of quality and need.

That TE from Oklahoma could be a dark horse candidate. I would hate to miss out on a good pass rusher for a TE, but that guy is an all-around beast.

[Bretsky]

And DL wasn't a position of need when we drafted Harell.

But we sure needed him this year. And with Jones hurt most of the year, it was great having Nelson available.

You draft a guy for (hopefully) the next 5 years or more. It will likely take the guy a year or two (or more) to really become effective. Meanwhile, needs change radically every year.

So if you pass on better players to fill an immediate need with a lesser player that probably won't be ready to play immediately anyway - that's like the little Dutch boy sticking his fingers in the dike to stop the flood. Just get the best players and build a better wall in the first place.

Now obviously that needs to be tempered by common sense. You can't just keep picking the same position year after year. I don't think Ted has done that. His first and second round picks have been: QB, S, WR, LB, WR, G, DT, RB, WR, QB, CB

So he's spread his top picks around pretty successfully, when you consider the first WR on the list was Terrence Murphy.

Right when it happened I noted TT picked Harrell knowing he was not going to pay Corey Williams. Not sure how accurate that was but it looks like that is the way it ended up. Unfortunately Harrell has offered nothing to make up for the loss.

[Bretsky]

And DL wasn't a position of need when we drafted Harell.

But we sure needed him this year. And with Jones hurt most of the year, it was great having Nelson available.

You draft a guy for (hopefully) the next 5 years or more. It will likely take the guy a year or two (or more) to really become effective. Meanwhile, needs change radically every year.

So if you pass on better players to fill an immediate need with a lesser player that probably won't be ready to play immediately anyway - that's like the little Dutch boy sticking his fingers in the dike to stop the flood. Just get the best players and build a better wall in the first place.

Now obviously that needs to be tempered by common sense. You can't just keep picking the same position year after year. I don't think Ted has done that. His first and second round picks have been: QB, S, WR, LB, WR, G, DT, RB, WR, QB, CB

So he's spread his top picks around pretty successfully, when you consider the first WR on the list was Terrence Murphy.

LEAPER gets the kudos for that year

He wanted Reggie Nelson from the start and that looks to be the best guy selected around that area. Dude looks dam good

[Fritz]

Can TT get another 2nd rd pick out of either Brohm or Flynn? It would great to have a 1st rd top 10 pick and 3 2nd rd picks. But knowing TT he would probably trade them all for the entire 7th rd.

Okay, LL, I'll tell you the same thing I told 007 who made a similar comment about TT loving seventh round picks at the expense of all else: TT has had more second round picks than in any other round, okay?