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I'm pleasantly surprised to see there are only 18 Favre Haters on the site to date. I thought there were more at PR. I guess it just seemed that way because they have always been so vocal.
30 votes for him vs 18 against at this moment in time.
However, a casual reader could never tell because those 18 kinda have an agenda to post as much negativity as they can about past Green Bay Packer greats.
If I want him to disappear so things can get back to normal HERE, does that make me a Favre hater? I mean, isn't it reasonable that I want the Favre induced separation of Packer fans to end much more than I'd want to see Favre play another down for yet another team? It's no fun watching Favre play elsewhere, but even if it was, it still wouldn't be fun to have every discussion here becoming a Favre debate. And it will, especially if he were to come back to play for the Vikings.
It's not that I think he can't play. It's not that I'm afraid he'll beat us. It's not because I don't want to see his face anymore. It's because I want the two sides of Packer Nation thing to end, and that won't happen until Favre is done playing. That's a fact. For that reason alone, he needs to go away and he needs to do it now. The next time I want to see his face is when he's standing next to his bust in Canton in August 2014. By then hopefully the conflict this whole situation has caused within our community will have died down completely.
For a lot of people up here that won't happen untill the current Packer management is gone.
Oh, great. So it still revolves around the Favre divorce, but it won't end with Favre's retirement. And if current management wins without Favre they'll be here for a while, so this thing could be dragged out forever.
Fuck me, I wish I was a Bears fan right now...
See Maxie? Now this is a perfect example of masochism...to wish something so ugly upon oneself...!
You know their fans gotta be loving this though. They just got themselves a quarterback. And even though we still have a pretty good one here, half our fans just can't let the old one go. They claim it's Thompson, but no matter how many good decisions Thompson makes during his time here he'll never be good enough because he's the one who traded Favre. Which tells me that it really IS about Favre, even to them.
The rift this has caused between our fan base makes me ashamed to be a Packer fan at all. I'd rather be a Bears fan enjoying the hell out of this than a Packer fan being frustrated by it.
Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow
No, Gunakor, I know what you're saying, I hate the rift as well--though admittedly not to the point of wishing Bear fanhood on myself. I was making an attempt at lighthearted humor in response to a discussion going on elsewhere...
Like I've posted before--I don't want him playing for the Vikes because if he does well, he's playing against my team and I have to root against him; if he does poorly he becomes what he never wanted to be, that is, the guy who stuck around one year too long.
"Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
Favre can do with he wants to and I'd wish him serenity in whatever he decides
TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
Fuck ya, Snake says..Let him play..even though MJ came back for the Wizards, it was still hilite number one to watch my old idol throw up 50 for the Wizards at 40. The dude is damn entertaining. And he's off the Packers hands now. I loved seeing him play for NJ. Good stuff.
The only downside is CPK will be up for 22 hours a day on Mountain Dew binges and troll out the Favre topics as usual. I don't know what CPK's mom sees in him, though, as that basement stinks of wank, and we already came up with 8 scenarios to dispose of the body.
I agree...
He was fun to watch last year and it's unfortunate that he did play poorly, but that isn' all on Favre. The Jets collapsed as a team and so did the coaching staff. It would be very hard to bite the bullet and buy a purple jersey. Maybe they will offer a red practice one somewhere...
"Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
– Benjamin Franklin
I voted no, and the main reason is that I would hate to see him come back primarily to stick it to the Packers. I don't think that's a very noble way to go out if those rumors ever did prove to be true. I would probably root for him to be successful, but not if that meant hurting the Packers.
Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another.
Vince Lombardi
Favre can do with he wants to and I'd wish him serenity in whatever he decides
QFT Bret. Seems like division, but many of has softened (as did Snake) and several others carry agendas one way or the other, but I as a man can say this:
Snake loves Brett Favre (would love to see him keep playing). I love our QB now ARod (the sky is the limit, young, talented, leader...face of our franchise at least till BJ takes over on D , but no he's 10x the guy I thought he'd be, and am happy). TT (overall very happy with the NEED draft with value, and feel he can help us win this year and in the future).
I for one, have no issues with any of those 3 parties, as the divorce is over so move on...Very few radically extreme posters keep bashing on any one party, but they know who they are and look weak. I support all 3 and again, everyone is entitled to their opinion as this is what makes the Rats the BEST Packer forum, free speech. All 3 have issues, all 3 deserve a pass this year no matter how it turns out. They've all earned that.
Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.
I feel almost the exact same way Snake, I'm very happy w/ A-rod, would love to see The Legend give it 1 more go, really liked TT's draft this year and what he did for the defense coaching. I'm not a big TT fan as to how he goes about business and his overall win/loss record, but this year will have a big say in that. Drives me crazy when people talk shit about Packer greats like they never did anything for the team. I love Packer football(been sporting the G on my shoulder since '95 and show it off w/pride) and all the tradition that comes w/ it.
I feel almost the exact same way Snake, I'm very happy w/ A-rod, would love to see The Legend give it 1 more go, really liked TT's draft this year and what he did for the defense coaching. I'm not a big TT fan as to how he goes about business and his overall win/loss record, but this year will have a big say in that. Drives me crazy when people talk shit about Packer greats like they never did anything for the team. I love Packer football(been sporting the G on my shoulder since '95 and show it off w/pride) and all the tradition that comes w/ it.
Kinda what I was saying and very few Rats (mostly trolls) give you shit for your Pro-Favre alliance. I was there a year ago, but softened on it much. He's his own man, so is Arod, and even TT.
I definitely support all 3 no matter what. Some have thrown Favre under the bus, based on his "selfishness" but really it is "competitiveness". He just wants to play and win. Maybe he's been sheisty lately, but he knows he's at the end. With this age of Internet blogs, "he said she said" BS it's foolish to turn your back on Brett based on some hysterics, thus I still love the guy, and DO support him no matter what. He's the Michael Jordan guy I root for no matter what he does of THIS era.
Bottom line ARod is OUR QB, so he's the #1 in support no matter what and had a good statistical season and WILL get better.
TT...Snake's been back and forth, but he means well and does well overall, and really have been pleased with this draft/offseason...but you are right, winning is everything and we'd be dumb to forget/misdiagnose that Favre was a huge reason we went to the playoffs just about every year, and are now 1 for 4 the last four years under Ted. Is Ted the reason, no....Brett was getting older, Shermy sucked at GM, but really this is a make or break as we as Packer fans expect to win EVERY year after the Holmy/Favre/even Shermy era.
You, Gex mean well and will ALWAYS be pro Brett, but again, some want his downfall no matter what. Kinda sad, as Snake looks at it as half-full, half-empty, but he was the man that got us this far as a franchise and WON'T forget that. Always will be Snake's hero (Brett) but I've moved on and don't place blame with the divorce and think Arod is a beast now. I'm pretty happy with the current Pack team but alas, would still like to see Brett play (the NFL fan and Brett fan) regardless. It is possible to support Brett, Arod, and TT....as Snake endorses this post.
Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.
Favre is entitled to play football. Nobody can stop him from doing that. Favre is also entitled to go play for the Vikings.
However, it just seems to contradict his "good guy" image when he admitted that he wanted to stick it to BTT (that's for you, Larry Harris) by specifically seeking out the Vikings.
Therefore, to get Ted back, he's not only slapping him in the face, but also his legions of fans that thought he'd be a loyal Packer for life. Overkill, I think. It's like trying to use a gun to kill a mosquito on your arm.
Though I wouldn't mind seeing this happen. The storylines would be absurd. But those childhood memories will always have an asterisk by them - it'd be kind of like a kid learning there was no Santa Claus.
Favre is entitled to play football. Nobody can stop him from doing that. Favre is also entitled to go play for the Vikings.
However, it just seems to contradict his "good guy" image when he admitted that he wanted to stick it to BTT (that's for you, Larry Harris) by specifically seeking out the Vikings.
Therefore, to get Ted back, he's not only slapping him in the face, but also his legions of fans that thought he'd be a loyal Packer for life. Overkill, I think. It's like trying to use a gun to kill a mosquito on your arm.
Though I wouldn't mind seeing this happen. The storylines would be absurd. But those childhood memories will always have an asterisk by them -
it'd be kind of like a kid learning there was no Santa Claus.
Is everyone using Snake's coinphrase BTT now? Damn TT aka Big Time Teddy (BTT) only gave Snake that after "Scotch Nite" when we got wasted after day one of the draft. Acknowledge Snake for it, but alas, who cares, yo? Brett is off our hands now. He's just another player as he'll retire a Packer, be HOF Packer, etc. Let him play and who cares how it ends up. I for one (Snake) is pretty happy to see him play much like MJ with the Wizards (doubt he proves anything) but damn happy to see an idol play on, cuz they bring/brought so many good memories I will NOT care who it is for. Just love seeing them play.
Edit: and by the way, Larry Harris...For anyone wondering why it's SnakeLH2006 (and have never explained it), cuz that is when I joined PR 3 years ago and Larry Harris was the SNAKE of the Bucks (called out by several players and wanted to see him done in for his sheisty ass shit).....for a new poster to pick up on that after 3 years is awesome. Larry Harris is gone, but that was my mindset back then...thought about changing the PR name, but it fits. I AM SNAKE.
Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.
Favre is entitled to play football. Nobody can stop him from doing that. Favre is also entitled to go play for the Vikings.
However, it just seems to contradict his "good guy" image when he admitted that he wanted to stick it to BTT (that's for you, Larry Harris) by specifically seeking out the Vikings.
Therefore, to get Ted back, he's not only slapping him in the face, but also his legions of fans that thought he'd be a loyal Packer for life. Overkill, I think. It's like trying to use a gun to kill a mosquito on your arm.
Though I wouldn't mind seeing this happen. The storylines would be absurd. But those childhood memories will always have an asterisk by them -
it'd be kind of like a kid learning there was no Santa Claus.
Is everyone using Snake's coinphrase BTT now? Damn TT aka Big Time Teddy (BTT) only gave Snake that after "Scotch Nite" when we got wasted after day one of the draft. Acknowledge Snake for it, but alas, who cares, yo? Brett is off our hands now. He's just another player as he'll retire a Packer, be HOF Packer, etc. Let him play and who cares how it ends up. I for one (Snake) is pretty happy to see him play much like MJ with the Wizards (doubt he proves anything) but damn happy to see an idol play on, cuz they bring/brought so many good memories I will NOT care who it is for. Just love seeing them play.
Edit: and by the way, Larry Harris...For anyone wondering why it's SnakeLH2006 (and have never explained it), cuz that is when I joined PR 3 years ago and Larry Harris was the SNAKE of the Bucks (called out by several players and wanted to see him done in for his sheisty ass shit).....for a new poster to pick up on that after 3 years is awesome. Larry Harris is gone, but that was my mindset back then...thought about changing the PR name, but it fits. I AM SNAKE.
To be fair, the sheisty shit that Harris was held responsible for was actually orchestrated by Herb Kohl. LH took the blame. Plus Kohl would always meddle.
A few years before, LH had a deal in place to send Mo Williams and Magloire, I believe, for Boozer and the pick that became Ronnie Brewer (this was when Boozer was an injury risk). Kohl said no. Some time later, he had a trade in place to send the Yi Jianlian pick for Shawn Marion. Again Kohl said no. So I always thought the criticism he got wasn't always warranted.
I wouldn't say I'm new though. I'd been in the JS game from like 2004.
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