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  • #31
    Originally posted by Rastak
    Originally posted by Scott Campbell
    Originally posted by mngolf19
    I know what your saying Harv, but I just don't ever give credence to injuries as an excuse unless you lose your absolute best player.

    Kampman must have spent his entire spring in Mexico on the beach 24x7.

    I have no idea what you mean.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Rastak
      Kampman must have spent his entire spring in Mexico on the beach 24x7.
      You mean Chuck Woodson? I really hope Jenkins can come back and stay healthy. He was a beast early last year. If he can give us a full season as a solid starter as a 3-4 DE, that will be a big help.
      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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      • #33
        Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
        Originally posted by Rastak
        Kampman must have spent his entire spring in Mexico on the beach 24x7.
        You mean Chuck Woodson? I really hope Jenkins can come back and stay healthy. He was a beast early last year. If he can give us a full season as a solid starter as a 3-4 DE, that will be a big help.

        Woodson is one of those guys like Winfield, at the age when they could fall off at any time. Jenkins certainly looks to be a good one. Kampman is the top dude on that defense right now, IMO.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Rastak
          Woodson is one of those guys like Winfield, at the age when they could fall off at any time. Jenkins certainly looks to be a good one. Kampman is the top dude on that defense right now, IMO.
          Is that a prediction for this season? Last year, Woodson was the best player on our defense. I'd argue he was the best each of the last two seasons--although it was close between him and Kampman the year before. Of course, Kampman had no help up front, but by extension Woodson didn't have any help up from the front either.
          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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          • #35
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
            Originally posted by Rastak
            Woodson is one of those guys like Winfield, at the age when they could fall off at any time. Jenkins certainly looks to be a good one. Kampman is the top dude on that defense right now, IMO.
            Is that a prediction for this season? Last year, Woodson was the best player on our defense. I'd argue he was the best each of the last two seasons--although it was close between him and Kampman the year before. Of course, Kampman had no help up front, but by extension Woodson didn't have any help up from the front either.

            Prediction? No, not at all. I have no idea how he'll play. Just mentioning he's getting old like Winny. Anyway, one could argue Woodson was the best last year. I think a DE that dominates adds more than a CB so I weight them higher.

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            • #36
              Wood's not just a good CB. He's a dynamic playmaker. A really difference maker on a defense. Generally, a good DE has more value than a good CB. Good playmaking, cover corners are hard to find though. Of course, Kamp could be better this year, but the discussion was about our injuries last year. Last year, the best player on our defense was Wood.
              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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              • #37
                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                Wood's not just a good CB. He's a dynamic playmaker. A really difference maker on a defense. Generally, a good DE has more value than a good CB. Good playmaking, cover corners are hard to find though. Of course, Kamp could be better this year, but the discussion was about our injuries last year. Last year, the best player on our defense was Wood.

                I only saw about 5 or 6 games so I bow to your judgement on the matter.


                I do agree the dude is a playmaker. Kampman drew attention because he was the best pass rusher and still got 9.5 sacks. I do see your point though.

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                • #38
                  I still think Jenkins was the best player on D while he was healthy last year. Chuck was a close second. Kamp was a distant 3rd.

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                  • #39
                    I can't say we WILL be playoff regulars over the next 5 years, but Thompson has put some key pieces in place. He's handled the transition from Favre successfully, and we have a capable game manager QB in place...Rodgers just needs to learn how to step up and take over when he has to now. We have a hell of a WR corp. We are weak at RB and OL IMO...those areas are a concern going forward with a cold weather team.

                    The defense has talent, but we really don't know much about how it will come together in a new system. Harrell remains a question mark. Harris is getting old...fast. It could turn out great...it could fail horribly. I think Thompson has done a good job getting the defensive talent for the coaches to utilize...I don't have 100% confidence in McCarthy's staff to get it done though.
                    My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                      Originally posted by Rastak
                      Woodson is one of those guys like Winfield, at the age when they could fall off at any time. Jenkins certainly looks to be a good one. Kampman is the top dude on that defense right now, IMO.
                      Is that a prediction for this season? Last year, Woodson was the best player on our defense. I'd argue he was the best each of the last two seasons--although it was close between him and Kampman the year before. Of course, Kampman had no help up front, but by extension Woodson didn't have any help up from the front either.


                      Kampy has been great (let's see how he is as an OLB, as Snake's hoping for the best), and Jenkins in spurts, but the core of our D hurt last year and coming back will be HUGE this year. I want BJ and Clay to contribute as starters at some point, but the real issue is getting our core D guys back.

                      As far as Woodson falling off...I'm more worried about Al. Wood's instincts could keep him in the league till he's 40, as he lost his speed years ago, but has since evolved into a dynamic ballhawk who can win games by himself at times, and play hurt. Al, while great at times, relies on technique/blasting WR's with his physical style. If he's not 100%, he's the CB I'd worry about falling off. Wood has evolved and will be a safety in the future if need be.
                      Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                        Originally posted by SnakeLH2006
                        Originally posted by mission
                        I fucking love Ted Thompson.

                        What.
                        Mission...as funny as your avatar is...Snake can't envision drinking beers with you at/after the Rat game with that avatar. Just...can't..do..it.
                        brutal.
                        All right...maybe so, as some of ya seem pretty fun to drink with (mission bring that yayo bro), but Skin asked a few days ago about shots (Snake ain't taking 'em...vaccinations no....bar shots yes, and plenty) for your strippers. Fuck that shit. I'll take the chance of a random STD with a college ho (did many and dated plenty without a rash) over a 300 lb. fat black stripper. Where's that been at? You know she's got some stuff. None of which Snake wants. N.O.N.E. Hope your party van is big enough, Nutz.

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                        In all seriousness...Snake is considering this shit heavily with the Rat game...Money, no prob. but say we all tailgate and meet up after the game, the prob. goes as such:

                        What about the game? Snake don't wanna sit next to some chain-smoking car salesman bitching about the Pack downfall starting with cutting Blair Kiel or some old ass Mary-Kay make-up ho from the 80's talking how she used to blow Perry Kemp in her hey-dey, all by Snake's self. No? Any thoughts? If I go, and want to, prob. gonna get 2 tickets (one for a non-Rat buddy) so I can sit by someone DURING the game. No? What's your takes? What are you doing?
                        Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by SnakeLH2006
                          Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                          Originally posted by SnakeLH2006
                          Originally posted by mission
                          I fucking love Ted Thompson.

                          What.
                          Mission...as funny as your avatar is...Snake can't envision drinking beers with you at/after the Rat game with that avatar. Just...can't..do..it.
                          brutal.
                          All right...maybe so, as some of ya seem pretty fun to drink with (mission bring that yayo bro), but Skin asked a few days ago about shots (Snake ain't taking 'em...vaccinations no....bar shots yes, and plenty) for your strippers. Fuck that shit. I'll take the chance of a random STD with a college ho (did many and dated plenty without a rash) over a 300 lb. fat black stripper. Where's that been at? You know she's got some stuff. None of which Snake wants. N.O.N.E. Hope your party van is big enough, Nutz.

                          --------------------------------------------

                          In all seriousness...Snake is considering this shit heavily with the Rat game...Money, no prob. but say we all tailgate and meet up after the game, the prob. goes as such:

                          What about the game? Snake don't wanna sit next to some chain-smoking car salesman bitching about the Pack downfall starting with cutting Blair Kiel or some old ass Mary-Kay make-up ho from the 80's talking how she used to blow Perry Kemp in her hey-dey, all by Snake's self. No? Any thoughts? If I go, and want to, prob. gonna get 2 tickets (one for a non-Rat buddy) so I can sit by someone DURING the game. No? What's your takes? What are you doing?
                          lol you crack me up bro...

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by mission
                            Originally posted by SnakeLH2006
                            Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                            Originally posted by SnakeLH2006
                            Originally posted by mission
                            I fucking love Ted Thompson.

                            What.
                            Mission...as funny as your avatar is...Snake can't envision drinking beers with you at/after the Rat game with that avatar. Just...can't..do..it.
                            brutal.
                            All right...maybe so, as some of ya seem pretty fun to drink with (mission bring that yayo bro), but Skin asked a few days ago about shots (Snake ain't taking 'em...vaccinations no....bar shots yes, and plenty) for your strippers. Fuck that shit. I'll take the chance of a random STD with a college ho (did many and dated plenty without a rash) over a 300 lb. fat black stripper. Where's that been at? You know she's got some stuff. None of which Snake wants. N.O.N.E. Hope your party van is big enough, Nutz.

                            --------------------------------------------

                            In all seriousness...Snake is considering this shit heavily with the Rat game...Money, no prob. but say we all tailgate and meet up after the game, the prob. goes as such:

                            What about the game? Snake don't wanna sit next to some chain-smoking car salesman bitching about the Pack downfall starting with cutting Blair Kiel or some old ass Mary-Kay make-up ho from the 80's talking how she used to blow Perry Kemp in her hey-dey, all by Snake's self. No? Any thoughts? If I go, and want to, prob. gonna get 2 tickets (one for a non-Rat buddy) so I can sit by someone DURING the game. No? What's your takes? What are you doing?
                            lol you crack me up bro...

                            LMAO. But this is some serious shit. Mission we will get wasted. That is a fact. Skin, Tarlam, and Nutz will take turns getting Swine Flu from some ATL stripper by the name of Zanadu in Nutz's van. I don't want that shit. I'm single and looking to move on some GB ho's in the clubs. I'm 29 and looking younger than that, but I don't care bout all that, but how is everyone doing tickets? I'd hate to hear about how TJ Rubley was wronged by some guys from a repo lot all day long or how Kitrick Taylor had an 11 inch wong by some 50 year old Packer ho? No? It sucks, but prob. will have to bring some young blood to the game for seats...What are y'all doing? Either way, Mission, we are gonna get wasted and go clubbing. Snake looks 22 and ready for college ho fun.
                            Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by wist43
                              Positives

                              TT departed from his script and actually addressed holes on the roster - which I, and a lot of Packer nation, have been calling for; he made a bold move up to aquire a player he thought would fill one of those holes (Matthews); and, he finally admitted that playing flag football on the defensive side of the ball wasn't going to win us anything.

                              Negatives

                              Their team identity is still centered around the QB position, Rodgers has proven nothing, and both backups are better suited to star in acne commericials than to start at QB in the NFL; with all of the positives surrounding the picks of Raji and Matthews there are still quite a few holes on the defense as it exists, too many miscast players, and both starting CB's are getting long in the tooth; the OL is still a mess.

                              TT shocked me when he actually jumped his board and took Raji; and I was equally suprised that he fired Sanders and switched to a 3-4 - something I wanted him to do when he was hired - all of this gives me some hope, but it is tempered by the negatives and TT's unwillingness to augment the roster thru FA.
                              Rodgers has proven nothing? For real? Nothing at all?
                              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                              KYPack

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                              • #45
                                We're fine there
                                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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