Who breaks out on o?

[bobblehead]

Lazard’s hands/ball skills/tracking/contested catch ability are miles ahead of MVS. Yes, MVS has games where he catches the balls thrown to him, but he still doesn’t have good hands. Luckily, they were slightly improved last year. ARod doesn’t throw to MVS much in contested situations because he knows MVS is unlikely to make a contested catch. Most of his receptions are layups and he still drops a fair share. I’d like to see the stat on yards of separation/reception. MVS has to be near the top.

No, his drop rate is actually right in line with MVS. You don't notice it because he has made a couple clutch moment catches and his drops are 8 yard routes that cost us a first whereas MVS is open behind the defense and you REALLY notice his drops.

Look up Lazards drop rate.

[Joemailman]

No, his drop rate is actually right in line with MVS. You don't notice it because he has made a couple clutch moment catches and his drops are 8 yard routes that cost us a first whereas MVS is open behind the defense and you REALLY notice his drops.

Look up Lazards drop rate.

You're right. Same thing happened in 2010. Everybody was on James Jones' case due to drops that would have been big plays. Someone else, I believe Driver, had a similar number of drops but did not incur the wrath of the fans.

[HarveyWallbangers]

No, his drop rate is actually right in line with MVS. You don't notice it because he has made a couple clutch moment catches and his drops are 8 yard routes that cost us a first whereas MVS is open behind the defense and you REALLY notice his drops.

Look up Lazards drop rate.

I don't care what the drop rate says. Drops are subjective. I've seen MVS completely miss balls he should catch and those often don't get recorded as a drop. With MVS's speed and improving route running, he gets more separation than Lazard. His drops tend to be more noticeable because most come on easy catches. Rodgers rarely throws MVS balls in contested situations. When he does, it's still a surprise. Basically, what I'm saying is that his ease of catch is higher than Adams, Lazard, or a guy like Jordy Nelson (back shoulders).

Again, MVS has value. Solid value... mainly because of his speed and blocking ability. And his route running has improved quite a bit. His hands have improved, but they are still below average. His contested catch ability is poor, and he doesn't have great hand-eye coordination to track balls down the field consistently. He just isn't natural in his ability to track and catch the ball. Guys like Jones and Adams, Nelson at times, almost every receiver go through periods where they drop the ball, but it's pretty easy to see the guys that should turn it around and the guys that just aren't natural at tracking and catching the ball.

Qadry Ismail had value (1000 yard seasons even), but his lack of natural ability to track and catch led to him having drop issues throughout his career. Doesn't mean he didn't have value. I see a similar trajectory for MVS.

[Spaulding]

Looks like the pollsters know something. Nobody picked Sternberger which was a good call as it was just reported that he's suspended the first two games of this year. Looking more and more like wasted roster space with him, just need Deguara to come back strong from injury and Dafney to show progression and they can cut their losses. Unless he really flashes in camp I'm guessing he's gone at some point this season given we're likely to only keep four TE's which would leave us with Tonyan/Lewis/Deguara and whoever potentially replaces him.

[smuggler]

Offense really likes its tight ends. Four sounds right. Deguara is my vote because I think Tonyan will get a lot of attention after last season and Deguara's versatility will allow him to see the field a lot and put up solid stats. I'm thinking 400 yards and 4 TDs, so maybe that doesn't constitute breaking out.

[Upnorth]

I think 4tds with 400 yards is a breakout for a te, especially in this system from how much they need to block and disguise.