Are you ALL IN, or ALL out, on da LOVE MACHINE

[bobblehead]

Thats fair enough. I think he falls in with the massive clump of QBs from 5-25 in rankings. I expect we can find similar with a little work, but we have him now so i don't see any reason to move on.

I too wish we hadn't drafted him, and taken something else instead. I doubt anyone on this forum feels much different. But again, that wasn't the question asked.

[texaspackerbacker]

Basically yes, except I wouldn't even rate Love nearly that high. I thought, even said, a week or two ago that it wouldn't be a bad idea to pick up that 5th year option and retain him as a back up. However, that's before I learned that the cost of that 5th year would be $19.6 million. He's simply not worth anywhere near that much. I'm not sure if picking up the option would increase his trade value or not. My gut feeling, though, is it would not, as presumably the obligation for that salary would pass to the other team in a trade.

[run pMc]

I'm OUT. Mostly.

Didn't care for the pick, didn't like the trade up. The rumors that they wanted Aiyuk once Jefferson went have some truth to them IMO, and they took Love as BPA on their board, with the fact that Rodgers had a pedestrian first year (for him) with MLF.

I think he has accuracy issues that Clements can only do so much to fix. His decision making is so-so, he can read thru his progressions and his poise is improved as well.

He has made big improvements from last year and his rookie year, -- which was a very weird year with Covid, no offseason/preseason, and Rodgers angry at Gute. He's still very young (he's a few months younger than Kenny Pickett)... so he still has room to improve. So there is hope.

And yet.

There's some intangible missing when I watch him play, and I think that sets him apart from Favre and later Rodgers, who you could see in his stint vs. Dallas and then first start vs. Minnesota that there was a spark there.I don't get that from Jordan Love. I think he's... okay. Is he better than Tua? Goff? Jalen Hurts? Sam Darnold? Trubisky?

I don't think he amounts to more than an average NFL starter, meaning I don't think he'll quite reach his ceiling. Average NFL starter will get him interest around the league. I don't think the Packers will exercise the 5th year option for two reasons: (1) he hasn't earned it yet, and (2) there's an outside chance Rodgers is on the roster in which case there's no way you can tie up that much cap space on two QBs.
I do see a world where Rodgers rides off into the sunset and Love signs a short extension and the chance to compete with another QB they bring in either via FA, trade, or (more likely) draft. It would be madness to give him $20M without knowing more than what we do, and what Gute & Co. have seen.

At the moment, Jordan Love is a pretty good backup QB - he can get them thru a game or two with their running game and defense should they need him. There's value in that, and they aren't trading him until off season, if at all. I wouldn't call him a dark stain on Gute's resume; it was a risk and even if it did nothing more than goad MVP play out of Rodgers it's a good move. Wolf and TT had picks that were at least as questionable.

[Fritz]

I'm all in. I got over his not-great first preseason game. But that fifth year option amount? Wow.

I didn't know the fifth year option was so high. I thought it was a negotiated amount, part of the contract, but it seems like it must be some crazy average of QB salaries if it's really upwards of nineteen million a year. That seems crazy.

I think Love can approach the Majkowski/Lynn Dickey level of quality. Good, better than average, maybe really good, but not Favre/Rodgers. That would be asking too much as a fan.

[Upnorth]

I don't know how you can be all out in an above average backup qb for only 3.4 mil. You have to recognize that we already spent the draft capital and not hold it against him.

[Fritz]

I don't know how you can be all out in an above average backup qb for only 3.4 mil. You have to recognize that we already spent the draft capital and not hold it against him.

True, true. But you can be all out in terms of whether the team should try to keep him for the longer term. I had no idea that the fifth year option was some kind of league average of salaries for the position - it seems nutty to pony up that kind of money, even if Rodgers retires after this year, for a guy who's never been a starter in the NFL and has had a rocky path. If the team really does pick up that option, that says they think that he's really going to be that good. I don't know if they can simply negotiate a new contract with him this year or not.