FAVRE: STILL ONE OF BEST NFL QB?

[FritzDontBlitz]

i'm waiting for the "how many qb's could put up numbers equal to favre's when surrounded by equal talent?" question.

the answer is: NONE.

[The Leaper]

He remains a reliable starting QB, although he is no longer capable of carrying a team to the postseason on the merit of his own talent. I would argue that he still is one of the top ten QBs in the league if you took everyone and gave them the same cast to work with.

[The Leaper]

Re: Favre

Brett "helped" carry a team...but he's never been able to alone. In the 90's he had the defense to rescue some of his idiotic mistakes.

Idiotic mistakes? Surely you jest.

The guy only completed 61% of his passes for over 16,000 yards along with 145 TDs with just 56 INTs over 4 years that were arguably the best 4 year run of any QB in NFL history.

The guy basically took a relatively untalented offense and made it a powerhouse all by himself. We sit here and think well of guys like Brooks, Freeman, Levens, Chmura, etc...but the basic truth is that all of those guys were actually very average in terms of talent. Without Favre, it is unlikely any of those guys become Pro Bowl caliber talents. Favre also had a rather average OL at best during most of the 1990s.

No...Favre DID carry the offense in the 1990s.

[TopHat]

HUGE SPORTS NATION POLL

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/listranker?id=709

Rank 'Em: Where does Favre rank?

Is Brett Favre still a top tier QB?The last few seasons in Green Bay have not been easy for future Hall of Fame quarterback Brett Favre. Mediocre final records, along with "un-Favre" like stats have led some to suggest that Favre should just hang it up or at least move over and let Aaron Rodgers develop as the Packers' new starting quarterback. The most recent controversy took place this week when reports suggested that Favre had demanded a trade out of Green Bay after the Packers failed to acquire wide receiver Randy Moss from the Oakland Raiders. What we want to know, SportsNation, is where you currently rank Favre among next year's speculated starting quarterbacks. Is the Green Bay legend still among the top 10 signal callers in the league? Or has his star fallen much further than that?

RESULTS: TOP 7.

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew Brees
4. Carson Palmer
5. Donovan McNabb
6. Matt Hasselback
7. Bret Favre
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[MJZiggy]

i'm waiting for the "how many qb's could put up numbers equal to favre's when surrounded by equal talent?" question.

the answer is: NONE.

But how many qb's could put up numbers equal to Favre's when surrounded by equal talent?

There. Now you don't have to wait anymore.

[BallHawk]

Bulger is better than Favre. McNabb is not.