Official 2023 Bury Joe Barry Thread

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Ed Donatell went from Denvers secondary coach to a great DC in GB. It's not unusual.

Ridiculous posts like the above is where I, the official Packerrats Packers historian, need to chime in.

Donatell succeeded Emmitt Thomas, the only 2nd Black DC in Packers history, and DCed the Packers from 2000-2003. While the Packer never missed the playoffs with Donatell DC-ing the D, he is best known for his playoffs infamies, most notably, allowing 45 points to the Greatest Show On Turf (although, in his defense, Bert Favor threw 6 picks in that game), allowing Mike Vick to slaughter the Pack defense as if it was a bunch of useless dogs, and 4th and 26.

Great my ass.

[texaspackerbacker]

I remember when a LOT of people in here (definitely not me) wanted Kevin Greene for DC. He was a rah rah guy, seemingly intense and good at firing up D players. I saw him as not very cerebral at all. That intensity may be important for position coaches, but the DC needs to be able to think - strategize, teach developing players, etc. Ideally we get somebody who is both. Barry seems to be neither.

I advocated Al Harris because of the apparent way he developed DBs and schemed their use in Dallas. It's a good point, though, that Joe Whitt is available. He of course, also has a Green Bay background, and who knows, maybe he, not Harris is primarily responsible for success of the DBs since McCarthy took over the Cowboys.

[Fritz]

Gotta agree with APB. Donatell was doo doo.

[King Friday]

Ed was better than Barry, but he wasn’t great.

[George Cumby]

Ed was better than Barry, but he wasn’t great.

But who is worse, Barry or Slowik?

[King Friday]

But who is worse, Barry or Slowik?

Barry. He has better players. Slowik was also horrific in the performance category, but he didn’t have 8 first round picks playing for him.

[George Cumby]

Barry. He has better players. Slowik was also horrific in the performance category, but he didn’t have 8 first round picks playing for him.

I contend there's enough talent at every level of defense to be Top 10, if not higher. That's why the results are so horrifyingly perplexing.

[Bretsky]

But who is worse, Barry or Slowik?

and don't forget about Bob Sanders

[bobblehead]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...c6a2b27e&ei=14

A decent read. The world sees the problem.

[red]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...c6a2b27e&ei=14

A decent read. The world sees the problem.

I was saying that this offseason when he decided to keep him

Lefleurs job absolutely should be on the line for hiring the reject in the first place and then keeping him for this season

We should be on year one of a new d-cord during this rebuilding year

Instead, best case scenario, the offense is ready to go full speed next season, but the defense is learning a new system

[bobblehead]

Well, its Christmas morning and my wish list didn't get filled unless I missed the headline where Barry got canned.

[Joemailman]

Chris Hewitt, the Ravens Secondary/Passing Game Coordinator could be a DC candidate.

[Fritz]

Todd Rundgren once had an album called Something/Anything.

[George Cumby]

Todd Rundgren once had an album called Something/Anything.

Don't forget "Barely Human".......seems like there's a play on words there........ "Barry Human" or something.

[Joemailman]

How bad is Joe Barry's defense? Jordan Love has 13 TD passes and 1 INT in last 6 games and Packers are an underdog to a team on their 4th starting QB.

[MadtownPacker]

Damn that is bad. Even worse it’s probably correct after the panthers clawed thru the D.

[Fritz]

That defense is a shitshow. It's beyond not playing well - now Jaire is kinda sorta throwing Barely under the bus while pretending not to, Devondre Campbell - previously seen as a good leader and good guy - has now blown up. That awesome "let it all out" defensive meeting The Flower talked about from before the Panthers game clearly didn't change the results the defense produces.

No, I'm pretty damn sure Joe Barely is gone after the season ends.

[bobblehead]

That defense is a shitshow. It's beyond not playing well - now Jaire is kinda sorta throwing Barely under the bus while pretending not to, Devondre Campbell - previously seen as a good leader and good guy - has now blown up. That awesome "let it all out" defensive meeting The Flower talked about from before the Panthers game clearly didn't change the results the defense produces.

No, I'm pretty damn sure Joe Barely is gone after the season ends.

I rewatched the game. On the first series we got 2 three and outs (because of a ST penalty). We had 3 down linemen. We rushed 5 and even 6 on passing downs. THE MEETING WAS WORKING!!

Then we went right back to what we had been doing previous weeks. I just think he is too old to change.

[Fritz]

I rewatched the game. On the first series we got 2 three and outs (because of a ST penalty). We had 3 down linemen. We rushed 5 and even 6 on passing downs. THE MEETING WAS WORKING!!

Then we went right back to what we had been doing previous weeks. I just think he is too old to change.

Hmmm. Saw a headline saying the blitzing didn’t work. But frankly I believe you over a “content creator” trying to get clicks.

[bobblehead]

Hmmm. Saw a headline saying the blitzing didn’t work. But frankly I believe you over a “content creator” trying to get clicks.

I mean...he was sacked on a 5 man blitz and then forced to throw too fast and missed Thielen wide open on a 6 man to start the game. The rest of the first half I never saw more than 4 going after him. Maybe it failed in the 2nd half that I didn't watch yet.

Another note....DeGuerra threw some pretty nice blocks in the first half. He was central to the Jones outburst early.