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    Official Bear Week Discussion Thread

    Time to move on.

    Packers haven't lost consecutive home games to the Bears since 2006-2007.

    Bears lead the all-time series 93-91-6. Bears lead in points scored 3247-3244.

    Rob Demovsky
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    Packers WR Davante Adams has a concussion after all. He said on his way out of the locker room after last night's game that he did not. Doesn't bode well for him on a short week.

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    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Time to move on.

    Packers haven't lost consecutive home games to the Bears since 2006-2007.

    Bears lead the all-time series 93-91-6. Bears lead in points scored 3247-3244.
    You got it, big daddy.

    Time to fold back our ears and haul buggy.

    Two more wins and the series is even?

    Sounds good to me.

    We hate them and they hate us.

    They come north after we stunk out Lambeau.

    We gottem right where we want 'em.

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    Will be interesting to see if the Bears go with smokin Jay if available. He probably gives them a better shot at scoring some points but is also a ton more likely to turn it over. If I'm the Bears I stick with Hoyer, try to avoid turnovers and turn it into a low scoring game, and make the Packer O beat me.

    If the Packers don't absolutely kick the shit out of the Bears then there is truly no hope.
    Go PACK

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    Ryan Wood ‏@ByRyanWood 3h3 hours ago
    #Packers DT Brian Price cleared waivers and re-signed to practice squad, per league source.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bossman641 View Post
    Will be interesting to see if the Bears go with smokin Jay if available.
    I doubt it.


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    This should be a win, considering how bad the Bears are...but the Packers have been looking like Glass Joe lately. Considering how bad the Thursday night games have been so far this year...and the state of the 2 teams on tap this week...the thought of gouging my eyes out has crossed my mind.
    It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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    This game is a complete crapshoot. With how we are playing and the mounting injuries the packers shouldn't be EXPECTED to win any game at this point. Jeffery may go for 200 yds...but if Aaron and the offense can just be decent we have a good shot.

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    Here is the elevator pitch for a coach breaking a quarterback.

    I’ve written at length about Green Bay’s offensive issues over the last two seasons, and here’s what I believe to be true: McCarthy and his coaches have designed and are implementing an overall offensive game plan that is unsustainable in the modern NFL.

    Over time, Rodgers has overcompensated for the things that offense doesn’t provide to the point where it’s broken him as a mechanically consistent player. And when you’re a modern NFL quarterback, mechanical consistency is the most valuable attribute. It’s what allowed Tom Brady to knife up two teams in his return to the NFL from an offseason and a four-game suspension; it’s the common denominator among all truly and consistently great NFL quarterbacks. It’s something Rodgers used to have in spades when his offense was formationally diverse; and now that it isn’t, he’s forced to improvise far too often, which has set him off his mechanics to a disconcerting degree.
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...en-bay-packers
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    I used to disparage BR, but this guy has it exactly right.

    Maybe last week was the start of fixing the problem, but I wonder if a coaching change could be needed to rescue Rodgers' career.

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    Depressing stat of the day

    Brian Hoyer has thrown for over 300 yards in his last 3 ganes. Aaron Rodgers hasn't thrown for over 300 yards in 14 consecutive games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisnowman View Post
    Depressing stat of the day

    Brian Hoyer has thrown for over 300 yards in his last 3 ganes. Aaron Rodgers hasn't thrown for over 300 yards in 14 consecutive games.
    This is depressing.
    C.H.U.D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    I used to disparage BR, but this guy has it exactly right.

    Maybe last week was the start of fixing the problem, but I wonder if a coaching change could be needed to rescue Rodgers' career.
    With all the success the Packers have had it sounds crazy..but looking at the recent results and you see a lack of flexibility and stubbornness that does not bode well for the future.
    C.H.U.D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Here is the elevator pitch for a coach breaking a quarterback.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...en-bay-packers

    I’ve written at length about Green Bay’s offensive issues over the last two seasons, and here’s what I believe to be true: McCarthy and his coaches have designed and are implementing an overall offensive game plan that is unsustainable in the modern NFL.

    Over time, Rodgers has overcompensated for the things that offense doesn’t provide to the point where it’s broken him as a mechanically consistent player. And when you’re a modern NFL quarterback, mechanical consistency is the most valuable attribute. It’s what allowed Tom Brady to knife up two teams in his return to the NFL from an offseason and a four-game suspension; it’s the common denominator among all truly and consistently great NFL quarterbacks. It’s something Rodgers used to have in spades when his offense was formationally diverse; and now that it isn’t, he’s forced to improvise far too often, which has set him off his mechanics to a disconcerting degree.
    I am not smart enough to dispute or agree with this assessment. The major problem I see with it from where I sit is that it presupposes that McCarthy is a moron.

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    Yet last year when I said stubby was the problem you all scoffed. He needs to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoosier View Post
    I am not smart enough to dispute or agree with this assessment. The major problem I see with it from where I sit is that it presupposes that McCarthy is a moron.
    No different than many of the posters on this board.
    No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoosier View Post
    I am not smart enough to dispute or agree with this assessment. The major problem I see with it from where I sit is that it presupposes that McCarthy is a moron.
    He is no more a moron as a result of this development than any previous year. Which is to say, not much of one.

    But he is prone to trusting that his players will win one on one matchups until the evidence is overwhelming. We have seen it with marginal starters at Tackle not being given help wth pass rushers, his light switch approach to the running game, pass protection and passroute construction.

    Its an approach that works well with younger players and getting them to raise the level of their performance. But it can also leave you exposed. He'll fix it , but will watch it fail first. The HAL 9000 approach to a communication tower failure.

    Rodgers is his best player. I don't buy the decline scenario of the Greg Jennings line that he is more dependent on receivers than perceived. Whatever offense M3 conceived, Rodgers made it hum, worked with bad pass pro and excelled if he had to bail out of the pocket. And all the time he made big plays down the field.

    When McCarthy built the latest iteration of this offense, it was in answer to the man handling he was getting versus San Fran (man under, Cover 2) and Seattle (press coverage/bail technique Cover 3), where teams could pressure with 4. He built an offense to maximize opportunities to hit those defenses deep repeatedly. But he was losing the middle of the field (Jennings left, Cobb isn't Jennings versus man coverage and Finely declined/retired). Even with the built-in limitations, Rodgers made that offense work for a #1 scoring offense and MVP award in 2014.

    If you were the coach, would you change that offense because James Jones was not on the team for the second year? There were signs along the way, teams that could defend this (KC, fucking Zimmer, Seattle, San Fran), but the winning never really subsided except for the year he broke his clavicle.

    But its all broken now. So much of that 3 second pass block then scramble drill has cost Rodgers what used to work like clockwork. He is no longer good in the middle of the field because he is never going there with a first or second read. And that stupid no huddle 11 personnel (1 TE, 1 RB, 3 WR) is SO predictable, he has to have seven seconds of pass pro to find an open receiver. And recovering Nelson plus the other receivers are not great at getting open early in routes.

    The only two that are, Monty (who showed this last week) and Abby (who isn't playing and is injured) don't have a big enough impact in the game plan.

    As Rut said, you could have called this last year, but the injuries seemed about as bad as they could have been. I suspect we would be back to early 2015 offensive execution if Nelson was 100%/year 2 of rehab. But that won't happen until next year. This year they need to run an offense that is more Belichick or Reid than McCarthy.

    But its mostly because he rode Rodgers to great success, not because he is a moron.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    PB I don't necessarily disagree, but maybe you can explain what MM was trying to do with the redesign of the offense. The offense has traditionally struggled with teams that play press coverage and can rush with 4. So MM's answer to that was to build in more iso routes thinking one of the receivers would beat press coverage and they'd burn the D deep? Doesn't that play right into the hands of the defense? I'd think you'd want to run more bunch and combo routes in hopes of fooling the defense.

    I definitely agree with him being overconfident in his players and thinking that players drive production rather than scheme.
    Go PACK

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    So PB in short what you are saying is that it's not that stubby is stupid. He's just stubborn and terrible at making adjustments on the fly. So basically before due to Rodgers playing other worldly football, they won despite of stubby. Not because of him? So what good is stubby?

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