I also want a list of the marquee FA acquisitions made by Bellicheat, Dorsey, Schneider, and McKenzie (not counting Marshall Newhouse).
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
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You would want it to go on as it has and more continued failure with a heavy TT influence.
Take some time to get your facts straight before popping off.
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I would argue that this is less important than making your depth better and constantly cycling the bottom 40% of the roster as needed to get the best possible players.
BB is the best trader in the NFL though.
Schneider traded for Lynch, brought in Avril and Bennett.
I can't think of Dorsey's trades/signings but he has drafted a lot of speed.
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Top 8 (those averaging over 10 million per year) free agent signings from 2016:
Josh Norman - Washington - 5 years, 75 million - Washington went 8-7-1 and 7-9
Malik Jackson-Jacksonville - 6 years, 90 million - Jacksonville went 3-13 and 10-6
Olivier Vernon - New York Giants - 5 years, 85 million - Giants went 11-5 and 3-13
Keleche Osemele - Oakland - 5 years, 60 million - Oakland went 12-4 and 6-10
Janoris Jenkins - New York Giants - 5 years, 62 million - Giants went 11-5 and 3-13
Brock Osweiler - Houston - 4 years, 72 million - Houston went 9-7 and 4-12
Sean Smith - Oakland - 4 years, 40 million - Oakland went 12-4 and 6-10
Russell Okung - Denver - 5 years, 53 million - Denver went 9-7 and 5-11
With the exception of Jacksonville, the pattern is initial success that could not be sustained
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Boy Wonder (Eliot Wolf) and Gutekunst being interviewed today.
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geesh...from what i'm seeing on the www it seems Ball has the inside track. can't say i'm thrilled about that. he's a numbers guy. one person called him the closest thing to TT out there. ugh! we need an aggressive, win-now, guy. a guy who knows talent. not a numbers guy. smh
Throwing out some random thoughts
Sure sounds like Ball is the guy, at least if the reports are correct. This will be interesting as he is pretty much a complete unknown. He's certainly worked his way up and everyone who has worked with him has come away impressed. We know literally nothing of his personnel experience though. If promoting him means losing Gutekunst and Wolf I'm not sure it's worth it. Would we be going into FA/the draft without our top 3 evaluators?
Last thought - if Eliot Wolf's name was Eliot Smith I have to imagine people wouldn't feel nearly as strongly about him as they do.
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One other thing....is Murphy the guy who hired Ari Fleischer? It's good to get outside opinions but between that and now his use of a search firm for the GM, it almost seems like he's unwilling to put himself on the line.
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@Bossman, eh, I agree a little bit on the name. I think people would be less firmly "wolf", rather more divided between "smith" and "gutekunst".
I think people want a personnel man because the Packers have long talked about how important it was to have a football personnel guy run the football org. Ball would be a departure from that, which as mentioned they have spoken often about how important it was.
Gutekunst and Wolf/Smith both have ties to Harlan regime, which has successfully done this transition before, where as Murphy and his ability to choose someone are unproven.