But is this really the worst defeat in Packer history or does it just seem this way because it so recent and we are still in mourning? Do you believe this loss will prevent Rodgers from the HOF? Do you think he even belongs with what he has accomplished thus far if he were to retire today seeing his record in the post season isn't all that stellar outside of 2010? These are not pertinent questions at all. I'm just curious what the consensus is with everyone here.