Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
If you investigate it, you might find that the Catholic Church didn't spend much time on the issue until challenged on it. But on your balance sheet will also have to be all the churches that accept gay behavior, and all of culture that has driven the issue for the past decades. And if we're going to go back in time, how far back do we get to go? How about Caligula's Rome? Maybe just concentrate on where we are right now and the trend?
I agree that the here and now is the best measure. I do not know if I can articulate the target. Everything I write read like a Supreme Court Justice writing about pornography.

The trend is encouraging though. And despite the utter uselessness of the phrase, we'll know when we get there.