Finley getting 57th opinion on his neck today

[woodbuck27]

Those were just examples of what maybe could have been done. Perhaps more importantly, with a bunch more cap space, Tt might have felt comfortable signing a F A. Sure, he COULD have anyway, but I really believe TT has a comfort level of space which he is willing to spend up to, but not over except when absolutely necessary. With Finley's dollars he might have signed that years version of Peppers or Woodson.

Wasted cap dollars is always wasted, and matters long term.

If Jermichael Finley is ever declared ready to return as a Green Bay Packers by the teams doctor. As I view it as a fan:

It's wisdom for TT to offer him much less than the money he was paid in his last contract. Looking at his availability and production after the 2011 season (Jermichael Finley's career season). Should Ted Thompson return JerMichael Finley to the roster at a price tag in the order of $8 Million$ / season for whatever duration?

I say no way that should happen.

I hope that TT moves on past JerMichael Finley; that Mike McCarthy let's go in his mind of this TE.

Can I predict that this will be the case in the end? Do I see a flip side?

Mike McCarthy. MM seems to be "in love" with JerMichael Finley. If that's the case then that might influence Ted Thompson to extend JF and even overpay him in so doing.

This is an interesting watch. maybe one of the more interesting watch's of so many in this remaining exciting off season as we witness the 2014 Green Bay Packer roster evolve.

GO PACK GO !

[denverYooper]

You keep saying that so I guess every player in the NFL who gets injured is wasted cap dollars. Guess Rodgers missing 7 games last season was wasted cap space too, we could have used that money to resign Crabtree.

Rodgers has a history of production that merits the money spent on his services -- MVP, Superbowl MVP + ring, NFL record QBR.

Finley has ne'er but dwell'd in the formless mist knownst to his well-wishers as "potential"

[Patler]

You keep saying that so I guess every player in the NFL who gets injured is wasted cap dollars. Guess Rodgers missing 7 games last season was wasted cap space too, we could have used that money to resign Crabtree.

It will always happen with one player or another in a given year. The issue is not with respect to a specific year, as with Rodgers last year. The problem comes up with players who are frequently out or otherwise underperform over the term of a contract. For some it is because of injuries, others just don't perform up to the level of their pay. I think Finley falls into both categories. Injuries are a concern and inconsistency is, too. The Packers did not get adequate value from him for both reasons over the term of his last short contract.

Wasted dollars are wasted dollars, but sometimes it can't really be avoided. Nick Collins last contracted had a lot of wasted dollars, but signing the contract was still the right thing to do. I expect Rodgers will still give meaningful value for his contract, but if he were to sustain a career ending injury the contract was still the right thing to do, in spite of the cap waste that would result

I think there were warning signs about Finley, as as there were about Jennings and Matthews. Then there's Bulaga............

[Tony Oday]

Just release him.

[MadScientist]

Just release him.

They don't have to, his contract was completed and he is a FA. Hopefully if he actually does sign it will be elsewhere.

[Tony Oday]

whoops thought he had a year left...well then who cares? He is one of the most overrated Packers in recent memory.

[mraynrand]

whoops thought he had a year left...well then who cares? He is one of the most overrated Packers in recent memory.

doesn't seem like it from this thread

[denverYooper]

doesn't seem like it from this thread

He's no Scott Wells, that's for sure.

[Pugger]

But the thought of having him and Colt on opposite ends of the LOS is intriguing...

[gbgary]

i think i might sign him for a year at a low price and see what happens. our TE situation is soooo dicey. could be great...could be horrible.

[woodbuck27]

i think i might sign him for a year at a low price and see what happens. our TE situation is soooo dicey. could be great...could be horrible.

It's that signing him at a low price thingy that isn't realistic.

[Bretsky]

I've always been a fan of bringing Jermichael Finley back because he has elite talent; physically he's a man among boys
But I also feel he has a bit of Brett Favre in him in that he's an ego maniac who clearly wants to feel love, and needed
That also leads to him always going for the highest dollar he can get; that was in Green Bay.

But production wise, lets call a spade a spade. Green Bay got screwed on the last deal
But I get the vibe TT is going to give him tough love this round and it's not going to end well
If he takes a huge wage cut I get the feeling its with a team like Seattle.

[MadtownPacker]

But the thought of having him and Colt on opposite ends of the LOS is intriguing...

How about the thought of them in opposites sides of the locker room? Don't see Finley as the type to take sharing the spotlight very well. He has already shown how he can be. We really want the his influence on a guy who has his own issues?

[Brandon494]

How about the thought of them in opposites sides of the locker room? Don't see Finley as the type to take sharing the spotlight very well. He has already shown how he can be. We really want the his influence on a guy who has his own issues?

Obviously his teammates and coaches don't have any problems with him since they all want him back. Exactly what bad influence could Finley have on a guy like Colt? I'm dying to know. You guys need to stop judging Finley for not being a perfect choir boy. Dude has never been arrested and he works his ass off. Yea hes not the smartest guy, hes pretty much your typical jock ,but that doesn't make him a bad guy.

This guy is such a cancer to the locker room...

[Brandon494]

But production wise, lets call a spade a spade. Green Bay got screwed on the last deal

So we got screwed on the Rodgers and Matthews deals also? I mean both those guys missed half the season too.

[gbgary]

So we got screwed on the Rodgers and Matthews deals also? I mean both those guys missed half the season too.

touche.

fin's got to prove he's really back. i don't think anyone (in their right mind) is going to throw even medium-money at him right out of the gate. a one year 'show us' deal isn't out of the question. don't think he'll be "screwing" anyone this season.

[Patler]

So we got screwed on the Rodgers and Matthews deals also? I mean both those guys missed half the season too.

Uh....No, not yet. How many years does each have left under their contracts to return adequate value?
How many years does Finley have left? Oh, wait...NONE.


But, I repeat myself.......................:

It will always happen with one player or another in a given year. The issue is not with respect to a specific year, as with Rodgers last year. The problem comes up with players who are frequently out or otherwise underperform over the term of a contract. For some it is because of injuries, others just don't perform up to the level of their pay. I think Finley falls into both categories. Injuries are a concern and inconsistency is, too. The Packers did not get adequate value from him for both reasons over the term of his last short contract.

Wasted dollars are wasted dollars, but sometimes it can't really be avoided. Nick Collins last contracted had a lot of wasted dollars, but signing the contract was still the right thing to do. I expect Rodgers will still give meaningful value for his contract, but if he were to sustain a career ending injury the contract was still the right thing to do, in spite of the cap waste that would result

I think there were warning signs about Finley, as as there were about Jennings and Matthews. Then there's Bulaga............

[pbmax]

Finley, Kuhn, Perry and who is the other dude?

[Brandon494]

Uh....No, not yet. How many years does each have left under their contracts to return adequate value?
How many years does Finley have left? Oh, wait...NONE.

No shit, none of the deals screwed us, that was the point.

[Brandon494]

Finley, Kuhn, Perry and who is the other dude?

No clue