OFFICIAL Packers @ Vikings Game Thread

[red]

SON Of a bItCH

he was down

thank god

[Brohm]

Grant blows big cock

Retracted I apologize Grant

[woodbuck27]

Rodgers has to get rid of the ball. Nice run by Ryan Grant. They need seven.

Dear GOD! Grant fumbles. . .NOPE Grant was down by contact. :D

[Fosco33]

Phfew

[MichiganPackerFan]

SON Of a bItCH

he was down

thank god

good thing they didnt make us waste a challenge. fuckers.

[mmmdk]

rodgers is rattled

yup. can you blame him?

Rodgers is gold; Rodgers is sold by OL.

[Brandon494]

Grant blows big cock

right....

[imscott72]

HAHA we gettin killed...Favre making TT look like a fucking fool..

Seems like your enjoying this? :roll:

of course not. The haha was sarcasm..

[Fosco33]

Feed grant - 4 down territory

[Partial]

rodgers is rattled

yup. can you blame him?

I don't think so. He doesn't have a sense or urgency in the pocket. Same thing all season. How long is this excuseable for? I'm really tired of the holding onto the ball and taking all of these sacks. I recognize they're not all his fault, but a lot of them are.

[MOBB DEEP]

GREENWAY TRUMPS HAWK\



..........

[Partial]

Go for it. You have to.

[Gunakor]

SOB

[imscott72]

dammit..gotta go for it..

[red]

god damnit

[Brohm]

Terrible. How bout a fade?

[PackerTimer]

Go for it. We need the TD.

[Sparkey]

Finely's fault, he needs to get out in the end zone then run down the line.

[retailguy]

rodgers is rattled

yup. can you blame him?

Rodgers is gold; Rodgers is sold by OL.

very true. rodgers is playing well this year. fumble and int notwithstanding.

[imscott72]

our D isn't stopping anybody. Gotta get 7 here for any chance at winning.

[woodbuck27]

Vikings playing outstanding goal line `D`.

Fourth and about one. Time out.

[Partial]

Finely's fault, he needs to get out in the end zone then run down the line.

Yep. He was moving in slow motion, too. Greenway was moving way faster than he was. What happened to that 4.5 mismatch speed?

[Partial]

I go to Driver here. He's the only one I trust to be honest.

[retailguy]

rodgers is rattled

yup. can you blame him?

I don't think so. He doesn't have a sense or urgency in the pocket. Same thing all season. How long is this excuseable for? I'm really tired of the holding onto the ball and taking all of these sacks. I recognize they're not all his fault, but a lot of them are.

bullshit partial. bullshit.

[Fosco33]

get this right

liked the FB call - can't do it again (worked a few times this year).

Wished Arod would've held it for another second to Finley.

Fade, cross, play action?

[Gunakor]

Everyone could see PA coming on that 3rd down play. Nobody was fooled.

[PackerTimer]

Finely's fault, he needs to get out in the end zone then run down the line.

Totally agree. Get in the end zone my man.

[denverYooper]

The lack of a running game, poor pass protection, no pash rush and questionable deep coverage are the biggest issues.

We'll get that fixed.

[Partial]

rodgers is rattled

yup. can you blame him?

I don't think so. He doesn't have a sense or urgency in the pocket. Same thing all season. How long is this excuseable for? I'm really tired of the holding onto the ball and taking all of these sacks. I recognize they're not all his fault, but a lot of them are.

bullshit partial. bullshit.

I disagree. You're entitled to your opinion, but he has walked into at least 8 sacks this year. How many times tonight has Gruden called it? I can think of 3, maybe even 4.

[crosbiegrad]

How bout Jordy? He's a big body too and I think he's been good tonight

[Fosco33]

The lack of a running game, poor pass protection, no pash rush and questionable deep coverage are the biggest issues.

We'll get that fixed.

Right... one at a time.

[Brohm]

....

[Lurker64]

Come on Safety!

[Brohm]

DROPPED :(

[PackerTimer]

Fuck. Catch the damn ball.

[imscott72]

Damn...Well that's it..Should of been a score..

[mmmdk]

almost 9 min. drive and no score...

[woodbuck27]

Dear Lord! Vikings hold.

[Sparkey]

DAMNIT LEE CATCH THE BALL!

[Partial]

My heart just hit the floor. Really, Lee, really? You're playing for your starting spot in a divisional game and you drop a TD on 4th down. FUDGE.

[Badgerinmaine]

Lee HAS to catch that. Man.

[red]

fucking clean house this week

this is the most head up your ass team i've seen since the 80's

[Fosco33]

Jesus. have to catch that ball. Could be the game.

Call it 3 turnovers in scoring position. Can't win vs. any NFL team playing like that.

[Bretsky]

Donald Lee

DAMMIT

[retailguy]

almost 9 min. drive and no score...

that'll take the wind out of the sails. if they have 99 yard drive here, tis over then for sure.

[MichiganPackerFan]

that was a good throw too.. FUCK FUCK FUCK

[Brohm]

Dear Loed! Vikings hold.

More a Donald Lee "no hold"

[Gunakor]

Dropped by Lee. He was calling for it, got it and dropped it. Completely catchable ball. FFS...

[mmmdk]

Come on Safety!

Sure! Why not! :lol:

[Badgerinmaine]

I still think going for it there was the right call.

[retailguy]

partial - if you blame that on rodgers I'm going to crawl through the computer and kill you.

[Partial]

Definitely. Get a stop here and we're still in really good field position. They need Bishop on the field here. We need someone who will just blow something up.

[Sparkey]

I tell you what, you people who rail on Rodgers, get #$#$# :lol: . The guy has absolutely zero help from his OL his RB's or his damn TE's. It is amazing what he does in spite of the rest of the team.

BTW, where is Jennings since he signed his extension ? :lol:

[crosbiegrad]

If your looking for a silver lining (It's that or pull my hair out) then at least the D has been off the field for a while

[Bretsky]

I still think going for it there was the right call.


agree; it was a good call

[Partial]

partial - if you blame that on rodgers I'm going to crawl through the computer and kill you.

No, he should have caught the ball. That was a nice drive from Rodgers. I'm a fair person. I will give credit where credit is due.

[Gunakor]

I still think going for it there was the right call.

I agree, and it was a good playcall and a good decision by Rodgers. That ball went right where it had to. Damn Lee for dropping that one.

[mmmdk]

partial - if you blame that on rodgers I'm going to crawl through the computer and kill you.

Cut Rodgers some slack, will ya Part.

[retailguy]

I still think going for it there was the right call.


agree; it was a good call

no other choice you had to go for it.

[Badgerinmaine]

Don't need a safety--a good ol' three and out would be just fine and would lead to great field position

[MJZiggy]

partial - if you blame that on rodgers I'm going to crawl through the computer and kill you.

:lol: :lol: You read my mind.

[woodbuck27]

partial - if you blame that on rodgers I'm going to crawl through the computer and kill you.

No. Right into Lee`s hands. A pure muff.

[DannoMac21]

Please stop them.

[Partial]

3rd and 8.. Send some heat. 6 guys and get some pressure. Favre can't scramble here.

[Bossman641]

Need a stop

[woodbuck27]

Please stop them.

Pray. :D

[mmmdk]

partial - if you blame that on rodgers I'm going to crawl through the computer and kill you.

No, he should have caught the ball. That was a nice drive from Rodgers. I'm a fair person. I will give credit where credit is due.

Fine then :lol:

[DannoMac21]

Jesus Chrst this team has no heart.

[Fosco33]

Our defense is wearing too much pink.

[Partial]

What a surprise that they send 4 vanilla bob style and Favre converts it. Are you kidding me?

[PackerTimer]

God, we can not get off the field on defense.

[Bossman641]

FUCK

This defense has sucked on 3rd down all year

[Badgerinmaine]

partial - if you blame that on rodgers I'm going to crawl through the computer and kill you.

No. Right into Lee`s hands. A pure muff.
Sounds like something Skin would talk about. :-)

[Tarlam!]

If aaron and the Offense don't answer here, I'll go to bed and watch the tape later in the day.

Geez Tarlam, I'm disappointed in you. You asked for pre-emptive forgiveness for this???

Surely you can do better.

Oh Fuck, Guin, I can't go to bed now! I am sitting in bed with a laptop trying not to wake my girlfriend. Sound is low etc. You get the scenario. BTW, sahe hates PR cause I spend too much time with you all.

[Brohm]

Our guys just don't hit anyone. Nothing.

[red]

fucking 3 lb's looking at the TE

WTF IS THAT?

[Brandon494]

Of course they complete another 3rd down

[Partial]

2nd and 8... let's get a stop here. We're running out of time.

[Fosco33]

Getting destroyed on 3rd downs. D is playing ok on 1st/2nd. 66% is not enough.

[mmmdk]

Please stop them.

Pray. :D

Who had the TE? :crazy:

[Sparkey]

The D is so worried about the run, they are keying run before they rush upfield. Watch Kampmann, every play he pecks at Peterson before he rushes.

[Fosco33]

fucking 3 lb's looking at the TE

WTF IS THAT?

pink triangles

[Bretsky]

every one of these passes are just spot on

watching this is starting to get a bit painful :!:

[retailguy]

Please stop them.

Pray. :D

Who had the TE? :crazy:

ours are blocking. theirs are catching passes.

[pbmax]

We have clearly game planned to stop Peterson and Favre is killing that D. So far the Viking version of Frankenbackfield is working to a T.

[Lurker64]

Another defensive touchdown would go a long way for my general state of happiness here.

[woodbuck27]

How many straight completions has that been for Brett Favre. . .he`s strokin`it.

[imscott72]

another 1st down or very close to it...just can't stop em...They've done well against AP, but no rush is killing us.

[Badgerinmaine]

I picked up Brett Favre in my fantasy league this week. Did I play him? No. I played Tony Romo. All I can say is, it's lucky for my TV that I haven't pitched it out the window...

[Partial]

One more quarter. One offensive TD, one defensive TD. Not good enough.

Favre is gonna give one up I have a hunch as you know he wants another TD or two to get the headlines for tomorrow.

We need to get a new DC. Seriously. Why is Caper's sending 4 guys and giving Favre all day on third down. Pittsburgh blitzes more guys on third down than any other play.

This is an extremely vanilla D tonight and we're getting burned.

[Brohm]

This D hasn't stopped a 3rd and long since 4th and 26 :P

[DannoMac21]

I believe 2. He threw incomplete to Berrian early in this drive.

[DannoMac21]

How many straight completions has that been for Brett Favre. . .he`s strokin`it.

I believe 2.

[Bretsky]

We have clearly game planned to stop Peterson and Favre is killing that D. So far the Viking version of Frankenbackfield is working to a T.


theoretically the coaches would have game planned to stop both :lol:

[retailguy]

another 1st down or very close to it...just can't stop em...They've done well against AP, but no rush is killing us.

yup. consistent problem all season. this defense needs pressure. we don't have any, and our best pass rusher is playing LB...

[PackerTimer]

This sucks three turnovers in or near the red zone and the defense is giving up every single third down.

[Fosco33]

I said this game would come down to 4th Q and we'd end up losing by 4. I'm not sure that's the case.

[Badgerinmaine]

How many straight completions has that been for Brett Favre. . .he`s strokin`it.
Sure is--but that has something to do with the eternity he's getting to throw, too.

[Dabaddestbear]

And I remember most of you Packer fans laughing at how Cutler dont have anyone to throw to. While it seems like all season the Packers need some WR's to catch Rodgers balls...lol. Yep, I'm rubbing it in guys, sorry, its in my nature to scream I told you so.

[Guiness]

See that passer rating for Favre? 148.5...ouch

[Partial]

2nd and 10. Let's stop the run on this play and have another shot at 3rd down...

[Fosco33]

"ref, it was incomplete pass, he was holding"

[retailguy]

And I remember most of you Packer fans laughing at how Cutler dont have anyone to throw to. While it seems like all season the Packers need some WR's to catch Rodgers balls...lol. Yep, I'm rubbing it in guys, sorry, its in my nature to scream I told you so.

it is about what I expect from you

[Lurker64]

And I remember most of you Packer fans laughing at how Cutler dont have anyone to throw to. While it seems like all season the Packers need some WR's to catch Rodgers balls...lol. Yep, I'm rubbing it in guys, sorry, its in my nature to scream I told you so.

So can we talk smack when the Bears play the Vikings? I usually sit those ones out, but given the invitation...

[Bossman641]

Get a stop!!!!!!!!

[Partial]

Alright, 3rd and 8. SEND SOME GD HEAT! 6 guys.

[Fosco33]

Positive - rush D.

[woodbuck27]

End of three quarters.

28 - 14 Vikings. Favre`s having a career night tonight. An outstanding QB rating. Favre hasn`t been sacked yet.

[Fosco33]

Alright, 3rd and 8. SEND SOME GD HEAT! 6 guys.


Right - worked last 8 times.

[PackerTimer]

another third down.

[PackerTimer]

and another first down.

[Partial]

Alright, 3rd and 8. SEND SOME GD HEAT! 6 guys.


Right - worked last 8 times.

We haven't sent more than 4 on a third down that I can recall...

[DannoMac21]

This defense is absolutely putrid.

[retailguy]

another third down.

leads to another 1st down...

[Bossman641]

Vikings are 8/10 on 3rd down. Disgusting

[Fosco33]

Getting destroyed on 3rd downs. D is playing ok on 1st/2nd. 66% is not enough.
and again

[Badgerinmaine]

another third down.
The way things are going, every bar in Wisconsin will be another fifth down before long. :alc:

[Bretsky]

DAM, never experienced what it's like to get eaten alive by Brett Favre

Now I know what a Bear fan felt like for the past 16 years

[Sparkey]

Grounding ?

[Partial]

Another 4 man rush, another 3rd down conversion. I'm so tired of this.

Hey, Sidney Rice can throw the ball away. If he can, ARod can, too. Please start, Aaron.

[Jimx29]

*note to Rodgers....see how it is to throw a ball away??

[red]

jenkins down again

i think its time for bed

or madden

[retailguy]

Grounding ?

nope, only applies to qb. he can do whatever he wants.

[denverYooper]

This sucks three turnovers in or near the red zone and the defense is giving up every single third down.

Both are looming.

[Partial]

The way this team looks tonight I don't think they'll hang with Chicago and will barely scrape by Detroit. Honestly, if Favre plays again next year, we might have the worst QB in the best QB'd division in the NFL. That kid is Detroit looked very good in the first half yesterday.

[Dabaddestbear]

And I remember most of you Packer fans laughing at how Cutler dont have anyone to throw to. While it seems like all season the Packers need some WR's to catch Rodgers balls...lol. Yep, I'm rubbing it in guys, sorry, its in my nature to scream I told you so.

So can we talk smack when the Bears play the Vikings? I usually sit those ones out, but given the invitation...
Sure can....I'm bored cuz this is the only game on. So i decided to give you guys crap on here. :wink:

[Fosco33]

Vikings are 8/10 on 3rd down. Disgusting

Pack is 6 of 9. Not bad when compared to previous games. that's a positive. Now before we could finish and didn't have turnovers. -3 (with turnover on downs) - can't win with that.

[retailguy]

The way this team looks tonight I don't think they'll hang with Chicago and will barely scrape by Detroit. Honestly, if Favre plays again next year, we might have the worst QB in the best QB'd division in the NFL. That kid is Detroit looked very good in the first half yesterday.

bullshit partial, bullshit.

[MichiganPackerFan]

this is going to be a long two weeks if we don't find a way to come back

[Sparkey]

The way this team looks tonight I don't think they'll hang with Chicago and will barely scrape by Detroit. Honestly, if Favre plays again next year, we might have the worst QB in the best QB'd division in the NFL. That kid is Detroit looked very good in the first half yesterday.

Idiot.

[Fosco33]

*note to Rodgers....see how it is to throw a ball away??

Seriously - how many coverage, non throw away sacks does ARod have. Doesn't give the oline confidence.

[Partial]

The way this team looks tonight I don't think they'll hang with Chicago and will barely scrape by Detroit. Honestly, if Favre plays again next year, we might have the worst QB in the best QB'd division in the NFL. That kid is Detroit looked very good in the first half yesterday.

bullshit partial, bullshit.

You're entitled to your opinion.

[Fosco33]

Get that man an IV or some gatorade.

[Brandon494]

Everyone ready for the 1st again on 3rd down?

[Dabaddestbear]

DAM, never experienced what it's like to get eaten alive by Brett Favre

Now I know what a Bear fan felt like for the past 16 years
Not the past 16 years...but yes, the past 11 he was in GB :cry:

[Fosco33]

3rd and 10 - gonna get 11.

[Partial]

The way this team looks tonight I don't think they'll hang with Chicago and will barely scrape by Detroit. Honestly, if Favre plays again next year, we might have the worst QB in the best QB'd division in the NFL. That kid is Detroit looked very good in the first half yesterday.

Idiot.

Why the personal attack? The kid is rookie #1 pick. He has unlimited potential and looks like he will be a super star. Cutler looked extremely good the past few weeks. Favre looks great tonight. So, what say you?

[retailguy]

Everyone ready for the 1st again on 3rd down?

wow. they stopped them!

[Sparkey]

Hey a blitz and they hold!!!

[Iron Mike]

This defense is absolutely putrid.

Can't get off the field on 3rd down......quite an upgrade from Vanilla Bob. :roll:

[Brandon494]

Bout damn time, see what happens when you bring pressure!

[Partial]

*note to Rodgers....see how it is to throw a ball away??

Seriously - how many coverage, non throw away sacks does ARod have. Doesn't give the oline confidence.

Gruden commented on at least 3 tonight.

[Fosco33]

What was that - a hold on 3rd down. 2nd Vike punt (pack only has 1).

[Sparkey]

The way this team looks tonight I don't think they'll hang with Chicago and will barely scrape by Detroit. Honestly, if Favre plays again next year, we might have the worst QB in the best QB'd division in the NFL. That kid is Detroit looked very good in the first half yesterday.

Idiot.

Why the personal attack? The kid is rookie #1 pick. He has unlimited potential and looks like he will be a super star. Cutler looked extremely good the past few weeks. Favre looks great tonight. So, what say you?

Ok, its my opinon that your postings are that of an idiot! Everyone entitled right ?

[Bretsky]

The way this team looks tonight I don't think they'll hang with Chicago and will barely scrape by Detroit. Honestly, if Favre plays again next year, we might have the worst QB in the best QB'd division in the NFL. That kid is Detroit looked very good in the first half yesterday.


Worst QB in the division ? You are kidding, right ? Stafford has looked clearly inferior to Rodgers this season. He has a good quarter or two and you are annointing him ? He's not close to as polished.

And Cutler.....looking better but far from what he was in Denver. I don't think I'd rate him any higher than Rodgers right now

[Partial]

Well, at least we held 'em from points. A lot of time left. If the O can get a really long, sustained drive here to give the D a rest I'd say we have a sporting chance.

[Fosco33]

Bout damn time, see what happens when you bring pressure!


And they had the perfect call against a blitz. Could've burned us big time.

[pbmax]

What was that - a hold on 3rd down. 2nd Vike punt (pack only has 1).
Yes, but the reason for the second part of the stat isn't good. :lol:

[mmmdk]

...let have another 9 min. drive... :wink:

[retailguy]

The way this team looks tonight I don't think they'll hang with Chicago and will barely scrape by Detroit. Honestly, if Favre plays again next year, we might have the worst QB in the best QB'd division in the NFL. That kid is Detroit looked very good in the first half yesterday.

Idiot.

Why the personal attack? The kid is rookie #1 pick. He has unlimited potential and looks like he will be a super star. Cutler looked extremely good the past few weeks. Favre looks great tonight. So, what say you?

It is simple. AROD is really not the problem. the game starts in the trenches and BOTH trenches stink. look at the problem, NOT the symptom.

[Fosco33]

What was that - a hold on 3rd down. 2nd Vike punt (pack only has 1).
Yes, but the reason for the second part of the stat isn't good. :lol:

True - the whole fumble, INT, turnover on downs in MN territory.

That's at least 17 points (and 14 back on turnovers to MN).

Different game... learning still.

[mmmdk]

Well, at least we held 'em from points. A lot of time left. If the O can get a really long, sustained drive here to give the D a rest I'd say we have a sporting chance.

Yeah, Vikes were starting to toy with us.

[Bretsky]

And I remember most of you Packer fans laughing at how Cutler dont have anyone to throw to. While it seems like all season the Packers need some WR's to catch Rodgers balls...lol. Yep, I'm rubbing it in guys, sorry, its in my nature to scream I told you so.

So can we talk smack when the Bears play the Vikings? I usually sit those ones out, but given the invitation...
Sure can....I'm bored cuz this is the only game on. So i decided to give you guys crap on here. :wink:


fair enough; truth be told the homerism on our WR's was flowing a bit too fast in the preseason. I don't think there's many that would argue we have the best top 4 in the NFL right now

[Partial]

The way this team looks tonight I don't think they'll hang with Chicago and will barely scrape by Detroit. Honestly, if Favre plays again next year, we might have the worst QB in the best QB'd division in the NFL. That kid is Detroit looked very good in the first half yesterday.


Worst QB in the division ? You are kidding, right ? Stafford has looked clearly inferior to Rodgers this season. He has a good quarter or two and you are annointing him ? He's not close to as polished.

And Cutler.....looking better but far from what he was in Denver. I don't think I'd rate him any higher than Rodgers right now

The rook looks not great yet, but I see the potential. He is a rookie. Do you remember ARod as a rookie? I think he's going to be an extremely good player. That's why he was a number one pick. Maybe even as soon as next year.

Cutler looked very good yesterady from what I saw, and has had good stats in every game but the Packer game.

Rodgers has looked alright, not great, but alright.

Favre looks lights out tonight.

I dont' think it's a really unreasonable thing. I'm giving him credit, but this division has boatloads of talent at QB.

[Sparkey]

Packers have to score a TD on this next drive to have a chance. Time is not on their side anymore.

[Bossman641]

Partial

Come on man. Stafford could be good but he has a long ways to go. LONG ways. I wish you judged other QB's the way you did Rodgers.

[Badgerinmaine]

It is simple. AROD is really not the problem. the game starts in the trenches and BOTH trenches stink. look at the problem, NOT the symptom.
Amen to that.

[Fosco33]

Ok, ok. You need 2 scores to get into the game.

Need a quick TD.

And 6th sack. Seriously Arod - get some feeling of pressure.

[Sparkey]

WOW, great line play!

[DannoMac21]

Beautiful start.

[MichiganPackerFan]

aaron "david carr" rodgers

[Brohm]

Colledge down bad. Rail on TT about his putrid OL. Fucking asspipe.

[red]

great colledge is down

whats worse then shit?

[Guiness]

Colledge down.

Um, who is backing him up????

Finley, near as I can tell. shit.

[Partial]

The way this team looks tonight I don't think they'll hang with Chicago and will barely scrape by Detroit. Honestly, if Favre plays again next year, we might have the worst QB in the best QB'd division in the NFL. That kid is Detroit looked very good in the first half yesterday.

Idiot.

Why the personal attack? The kid is rookie #1 pick. He has unlimited potential and looks like he will be a super star. Cutler looked extremely good the past few weeks. Favre looks great tonight. So, what say you?

It is simple. AROD is really not the problem. the game starts in the trenches and BOTH trenches stink. look at the problem, NOT the symptom.

He's not the sole problem, I agree, but I think he is contributing to some of the offensive woes. He certainly isn't helping them.

[Fosco33]

Pretty soon we'll have Kuhn as a Guard.

[Sparkey]

Colledge hurt now. Pull Arod so he doesn't get killed out there.

[retailguy]

so glad our LG is our backup LT. Now he's out. Can you say TJ LANG?

Yep. We're ok there.

[PackerTimer]

Maybe we should pack up and head home. If Colledge is out Rodgers is going to get killed back there. I mean Colledge hasn't been great but I shutter to see what our third stringers will do.

[woodbuck27]

Aaron Rodgers suffers his 6th sack.

Blow up the OL. Fire people.

[mmmdk]

Well, at least we held 'em from points. A lot of time left. If the O can get a really long, sustained drive here to give the D a rest I'd say we have a sporting chance.

Yeah, Vikes were starting to toy with us.

Still are...how many sacks is that?

[Lurker64]

If both Clifton and Colledge are out for any amount of time, that's probably the season. Not many teams can recover from losing both their LT and their backup LT, and this is certainly not one of them.

[Brohm]

37 guards 52 receivers no real tackles.

[mission]

Partal you are probably the stupidest fuck to ever have posted in this forum. Ban me.

[Bossman641]

Well, at least we held 'em from points. A lot of time left. If the O can get a really long, sustained drive here to give the D a rest I'd say we have a sporting chance.

Yeah, Vikes were starting to toy with us.

Still are...how many sacks is that?

Seis

[Fosco33]

Brent always knows how to take a hit - about season 6 he learned how to throw away or checkdown. And he always shaked off little hits.

Arod... not so much. Some things to learn but I still like his overall play.

Need a PI or def holding here.

[Partial]

Partial

Come on man. Stafford could be good but he has a long ways to go. LONG ways. I wish you judged other QB's the way you did Rodgers.

He's a rookie. Most players take their biggest step from year one to year two. I don't want to talk about this anymore, so this will be the last post, but I see so much potential in that kid its unreal. He looked like a Young Favre yesterday with the way he will wing it into traffic and have the receiver come up with the catch.

He needs a better team around him and better accuracy, but he looks like he belongs to me.

[retailguy]

The way this team looks tonight I don't think they'll hang with Chicago and will barely scrape by Detroit. Honestly, if Favre plays again next year, we might have the worst QB in the best QB'd division in the NFL. That kid is Detroit looked very good in the first half yesterday.

Idiot.

Why the personal attack? The kid is rookie #1 pick. He has unlimited potential and looks like he will be a super star. Cutler looked extremely good the past few weeks. Favre looks great tonight. So, what say you?

It is simple. AROD is really not the problem. the game starts in the trenches and BOTH trenches stink. look at the problem, NOT the symptom.

He's not the sole problem, I agree, but I think he is contributing to some of the offensive woes. He certainly isn't helping them.

Jesus. Do you suppose we could FIX THE OBVIOUS PROBLEM first? Then we can figure out if your imaginary problem re-occurs?

You program for a living. Why don't you understand this?

[MOBB DEEP]

these teams appear to be worlds apart; not even close!

SHOOT!

[pbmax]

Hello? Yes this is Levi Jones, to whom am I speaking?...

[Gunakor]

If both Clifton and Colledge are out for any amount of time, that's probably the season. Not many teams can recover from losing both their LT and their backup LT, and this is certainly not one of them.

Agreed. Nobody has a 3rd string LT worth a lick.

[Bretsky]

The way this team looks tonight I don't think they'll hang with Chicago and will barely scrape by Detroit. Honestly, if Favre plays again next year, we might have the worst QB in the best QB'd division in the NFL. That kid is Detroit looked very good in the first half yesterday.


Worst QB in the division ? You are kidding, right ? Stafford has looked clearly inferior to Rodgers this season. He has a good quarter or two and you are annointing him ? He's not close to as polished.

And Cutler.....looking better but far from what he was in Denver. I don't think I'd rate him any higher than Rodgers right now

The rook looks not great yet, but I see the potential. He is a rookie. Do you remember ARod as a rookie? I think he's going to be an extremely good player. That's why he was a number one pick. Maybe even as soon as next year.

Cutler looked very good yesterady from what I saw, and has had good stats in every game but the Packer game.

Rodgers has looked alright, not great, but alright.

Favre looks lights out tonight.

I dont' think it's a really unreasonable thing. I'm giving him credit, but this division has boatloads of talent at QB.


Stafford was the #1 pick of a team incredibly desperate for a QB, but the guy had question marks coming in. Not saying he'll be bad or great...but IMO he's a ways away and his game is nowhere near as polished as AROD, or even Mark Sanchez right now.

[Brandon494]

The way this team looks tonight I don't think they'll hang with Chicago and will barely scrape by Detroit. Honestly, if Favre plays again next year, we might have the worst QB in the best QB'd division in the NFL. That kid is Detroit looked very good in the first half yesterday.

I dont know if its that you just dont know what your talking about or your so far up Favre's ass that you can't see what we have in Rodgers.

[retailguy]

Hello? Yes this is Levi Jones, to whom am I speaking?...

Nope. We won't call. Just you wait.

[red]

this is where a-rod gets killed

[Fosco33]

Greenway taking a shot by his own defender. Love it.

[Partial]

Spitz... you just got beat by Jamie Kennedy. Screw that guy.

[Fosco33]

Tauscher at 90% would work.

[woodbuck27]

If I was MM I`d sit AR now. He`s too vulnerable.

[pbmax]

Is Lang in at LT?

[Gunakor]

Tauscher at 90% would work.

not at LT

[Fosco33]

Almost worked. If you have to get fancy - time to pack the bus up.

[Brandon494]

haha Im not going to lie that got me for a second.

[Partial]

Favre is gonna go for #4 here. You know he wants it. I don't like the play calling there. I disagree with Gruden.

[Gunakor]

Is Lang in at LT?

Yup. That's where we are right now.

[PackerTimer]

Just bouncing off of guys. Wrap up please.

[Brohm]

All that ST draft....

[Brando19]

What a joke this has turned into. Fuck.....SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

[woodbuck27]

Almost 4 games in and the Packers OL has allowed 18 sacks. Most in the NFL.

[red]

no heart

NO FUCKING HEART FROM THIS TEAM, or any mm teams

[Bretsky]

Partial

Come on man. Stafford could be good but he has a long ways to go. LONG ways. I wish you judged other QB's the way you did Rodgers.

He's a rookie. Most players take their biggest step from year one to year two. .



Never heard that about the QB position at all

[Bossman641]

Did anyone else think Spitz's hit on Colledge looked like nothing at all? I'd be shocked if that's anything serious.

[MOBB DEEP]

Almost 4 games in and the Packers OL has allowed 18 sacks. Most in the NFL.

dayum!

[Gunakor]

Almost 4 games in and the Packers OL has allowed 18 sacks. Most in the NFL.

Well, now we've lost 2 starting OL from week 1. I don't suppose it's gonna get much better anytime soon.

[Brando19]

TT has to make a blockbuster trade for a LT in order to save this season. Must.

[denverYooper]

Twanger will turn this game around.

[Bretsky]

Hello? Yes this is Levi Jones, to whom am I speaking?...


TAUSCHER

[Partial]

These Nike commercials are kind of creepy.

[crosbiegrad]

This is sore stuff

[red]

Did anyone else think Spitz's hit on Colledge looked like nothing at all? I'd be shocked if that's anything serious.

i saw the start of a knee whipping in the wrong direction

[Brohm]

Almost 4 games in and the Packers OL has allowed 18 sacks. Most in the NFL.

Someone should sign Levi and Tausch tomorrow and get them ready over the bye. (Well if T can play).

[pbmax]

Hello? Yes this is Levi Jones, to whom am I speaking?...


TAUSCHER
he is too slow for the right side, how will he play left?

[Gunakor]

Hello? Yes this is Levi Jones, to whom am I speaking?...


TAUSCHER

Has he ever played LT before?

[Partial]

One turnover and we're back in it... c'mon guys, get some heat and hit him.

[Fosco33]

No holding on that one... fing bs.

http://www.hostpic.biz/uploads/c0059a5dd0.jpg (http://www.hostpic.biz)


I hate these refs.

[pbmax]

Hello? Yes this is Levi Jones, to whom am I speaking?...


TAUSCHER
he is too slow for the right side, how will he play left?\
Unless you think Giacomini can play left?

[mission]

If I was MM I`d sit AR now. He`s too vulnerable. you're also a stupid fuck .. But I've told you that before

[Partial]

Woodson with a nice tackle. 2nd and 12... Alright, let's hope for a 3 and out.

[MichiganPackerFan]

Hello? Yes this is Levi Jones, to whom am I speaking?...


TAUSCHER

agree

or we could scout some peewee leagues - betcha we could find better there.

If you told me we'd hold ap to under 3 per carry and this... STILL no penalties going the other way (Accepted)

[red]

TT has to make a blockbuster trade for a LT in order to save this season. Must.

teams don't trade LT's

they just don't

[Partial]

No holding on that one... fing bs.




I hate these refs.

There is holding on every play. My advice is to get over it. Everyone does it.

3rd and 12... let's see how this goes...

[retailguy]

well, they've stopped AP, and they dared favre to beat them, and he is.

[Partial]

3 Rushers? Really? C'mon.

[crosbiegrad]

Generous spot?

[Brohm]

No pass rush...*hotkeyed*

[PackerTimer]

Well they didn't convert on thrid down for a change, but they'll get it on fourth I bet.

[retailguy]

TT has to make a blockbuster trade for a LT in order to save this season. Must.

teams don't trade LT's

they just don't

Unless they're the buffalo bills and they already did.

[MichiganPackerFan]

No holding on that one... fing bs.




I hate these refs.

There is holding on every play. My advice is to get over it. Everyone does it.

3rd and 12... let's see how this goes...

but they chose to call it against us in key situations, but not the other way....

[Bossman641]

Come on D. You gotta force the hand a little bit there.

[red]

Hello? Yes this is Levi Jones, to whom am I speaking?...


TAUSCHER
he is too slow for the right side, how will he play left?\
Unless you think Giacomini can play left?

someone has to play the possition

[woodbuck27]

Favre looks just brilliant tonight.

[Partial]

I'm so irritated in our 3-4 pressure oriented defense.

At least we got a stop.

[Jimx29]

TT has to make a blockbuster trade for a LT in order to save this season. Must.

teams don't trade LT's

they just don'tand TT has never made a instant help trade ever....and will never change. Just look at all the super bowl teams he's built in his career

[Bretsky]

I know I'm in the minority, but this ref'd game has not bothered me. It may be a bit sway'd but teams overcome this

Many other things are bugging me, including getting our asses included up front.

[PackerTimer]

Well they didn't convert on thrid down for a change, but they'll get it on fourth I bet.

Wow, I'm kind of surprised they are punting here.

[Brohm]

Mercy punt.

[mmmdk]

Rodgers - not the problem.

WRs - not the problem.

TEs - not really the problem.

Chuck & Collins - not the problem.

LBs sans Barnett - not really the problem.

Jenkins - not really the problem.


OL - HUGE PROBLEM

RBs - PROBLEM

Rest of DL sans unproven Raji - PROBLEM

ST sans Blackmon & Jordy - PROBLEM

McCarthy - BIG PROBLEM

TT - Dunno :?:

Secondary - Dunno :?:, depth problem

[Brando19]

Oh shit....safety comin here.

[retailguy]

I know I'm in the minority, but this ref'd game has not bothered me. It may be a bit sway'd but teams overcome this

Many other things are bugging me, including getting our asses included up front.

refs are not the problem. our OL and our DL, now THAT is the problem

[Partial]

Alright ARod... this is where legends are made. 99 yard drive and I'll be very impressed.

[Brohm]

Damn wish our ST could do that.

[red]

LOL

what else?

[pbmax]

I know I'm in the minority, but this ref'd game has not bothered me. It may be a bit sway'd but teams overcome this

Many other things are bugging me, including getting our asses included up front.
Its the self inflicted stuff that kills.

[PackerTimer]

Well they didn't convert on thrid down for a change, but they'll get it on fourth I bet.

Wow, I'm kind of surprised they are punting here.

Well I guess that's why they punted.

[Badgerinmaine]

Man, I'm just starting to feel more numb than anything. :?

[Bretsky]

If Bart Starr was our coach Lynn Dickey would play action pass on a bomb on first down here

[Partial]

I know I'm in the minority, but this ref'd game has not bothered me. It may be a bit sway'd but teams overcome this

Many other things are bugging me, including getting our asses included up front.

refs are not the problem. our OL and our DL, now THAT is the problem

The DL has played fine if AP is only averaging like 3.0 ypc as someone posted. Rushing 3-4 passers on 3rd down against BF is a sure fire way to get burned. Coaching is the problem on D tonight.

[retailguy]

Alright ARod... this is where legends are made. 99 yard drive and I'll be very impressed.

how about we start with a 1st down. remember the 3rd string LT?

[pbmax]

If Bart Starr was our coach Lynn Dickey would play action pass on a bomb on first down here
Would it work or be INT? Before my time.

[Jimx29]

Alright ARod... this is where legends are made. 99 yard drive and I'll be very impressed.I recommend not holding your breath