Official Packers vs. Patriots Game Day Thread

[RashanGary]

You know, there is something about this Flynn guy. I love Rodgers to death, but Flynn is really taking what he is given. Rodgers seems to always be aiming at the guy that is 12+ yards down the field. Flynn has some very nice qualities abou thim, and that was a great decision to throw it away instead of trying to force it. Take the points.

I agree. Flynn has a way about him. He does more little things that add up. I like this brand of football.

[Fosco33]

Let's go Defense - let's make a big play here and stuff this drive.

[denverYooper]

INT time

[red]

You guys are unbelievable. He doesn't run enough. He runs too much. He doesn't run near the goal line. He calls bad run plays near the goal line.

A bunch of whiny women (not including Ziggy or GB Rules). Admit it. You see the result, then you judge the play call a success or failure. Otherwise, you have no idea.

quit your bitching

you sound like a woman

[channtheman]

I didn't imply rodgers wouldn't throw it away, I was mostly implying that Flynn is making some smart choices. He clearly appears to be better take what is given to him in comparison to AR. Grant it, AR doesn't turn it over either, but AR is not the guy you think of to run a dink and dunk offensive game plan with. Helps our line plays better too whent eh QB is under center.

My mistake. I agree completely.

[Jimx29]

hello...meet mr.bishop

[mmmdk]

Stubby doing fine tonite sans his love for the squib kick.

[channtheman]

I thought Bishop was going to get a penalty there. What a bonehead.

[Fosco33]

Who would've thought at the beginning of the year that Bishop would be our 2nd/3rd best LB at the end of the season. Maybe Mr. August can be Mr. January too.

[Jimx29]

shit...another missed gift

[red]

big stop

[pbmax]

Now, lets hear what was wrong with the pressure on 3rd down since the missed the INT.

[Bossman641]

Jesus, Walden looked like a 4 year old trying to catch a football there.

[mmmdk]

INT time

Close...no breaks at all.

[Fred's Slacks]

Way to hold to 3 D. Nice job.

[channtheman]

93 should get in line to be a receiver. Could be better than Jordy or Jones at least.

[Packers4Glory]

why can't these assholes pick this charmed lucky QB?

10 points that shouldn't be

[gbgary]

i think mm's play calling is much better the second half. he's kept flynn under center, kept running, kept throwing short.

[Bossman641]

You guys are unbelievable. He doesn't run enough. He runs too much. He doesn't run near the goal line. He calls bad run plays near the goal line.

A bunch of whiny women (not including Ziggy or GB Rules). Admit it. You see the result, then you judge the play call a success or failure. Otherwise, you have no idea.

X1000

He can't win

[Fosco33]

:tup: I'm ok with trading FGs the rest of the game

[denverYooper]

Now, lets hear what was wrong with the pressure on 3rd down since the missed the INT.

The Pats still got 3.

lol

[pbmax]

quit your bitching

you sound like a woman

My wine cooler and I would beg to differ. : )

[RashanGary]

If you had to keep one:

Bishop or Barnett?

[retailguy]

Now, lets hear what was wrong with the pressure on 3rd down since the missed the INT.

LMAO

[Fred's Slacks]

why can't these assholes pick this charmed lucky QB?

10 points that shouldn't be

Shouldn't he be playing for Chicago?

[pbmax]

I thought Bishop was going to get a penalty there. What a bonehead.

Those hits are legal as long as its a runner. Not a defenseless QB or receiver.

[packerbacker1234]

Lets go Flynn baby, time to bury them right now. We can't go conservative and back down. Need to aim for a TD this drive.

[Packers4Glory]

Cant argue too much w/ MM's play calling tonight. Def a few things I don't like or would like to see.

I liked running Kuhn but I would have liked to see it as a tailback and not a dive. bootleg would have been money down there.

[RashanGary]

i think mm's play calling is much better the second half. he's kept flynn under center, kept running, kept throwing short.

Time for play action and DEEP. It will be open.

[packer4life]

If you had to keep one:

Bishop or Barnett?

bishop...more physical, need that in the inside

[channtheman]

Had a hole up the middle. Terrible return.

[mmmdk]

If you had to keep one:

Bishop or Barnett?

Bishop!

Injuries to D has been a blessing.

[red]

My wine cooler and I would beg to differ. : )

lol

[Fred's Slacks]

If you had to keep one:

Bishop or Barnett?

Gotta say Bishop now. Younger, and more big plays. Barnett is solid.

[channtheman]

Those hits are legal as long as its a runner. Not a defenseless QB or receiver.

Should have clarified. I thought he taunted after the hit.

[Packers4Glory]

Shouldn't he be playing for Chicago?

chicago is a charmed team.

Brady has this no INT streak and I've seen 1 ball last week and a couple tonight.

[mmmdk]

Flynn - damnit!

[Fred's Slacks]

So much for play action

[RashanGary]

Damn, Flynn had options there. That's where Rodgers excels.

[pbmax]

Held too long.

[Fosco33]

Hmm - looked like Flynn took a bit of an arm to the head on that sack.

[Packers4Glory]

Flynn is holding it too long there. had an open guy.

[channtheman]

I've never seen play action not work like this after you run the ball so well. Wow.

No, actually Flynn had people open. He didn't throw the ball.

[packer4life]

when sacked, the chances your drive ends up with a TD drops to 8%

[red]

If you had to keep one:

Bishop or Barnett?

i like the idea that someone had yesterday of moving barnett outside

bishop is definately one of out top 4 Lb's. need to find a way to get the best 4 on the field at the same time

[RashanGary]

we need a 15 yd face mask

[retailguy]

Held too long.

It was a shitty play call.

[RashanGary]

I liked the way Flynn ran that. He didn't stretch out for contact. He got tight and got down. That's jsut smart. AR was a dip shit.

[channtheman]

when sacked, the chances your drive ends up with a TD drops to 8%

When you turn it over it drops to 0%. Saw that on the graphic last week's Sunday Night game.

[pbmax]

It was a shitty play call.

Mmaybe, but Jennings or Jordy was open deep to the right on a cross and had no one there.

[Packers4Glory]

time for the defense to score.

[packer4life]

When you turn it over it drops to 0%. Saw that on the graphic last week's Sunday Night game.

yup

[red]

I liked the way Flynn ran that. He didn't stretch out for contact. He got tight and got down. That's jsut smart. AR was a dip shit.

if he would have slid he might have gotten a flag on one of the two guys that dove head first at him

[Freak Out]

M3 just doesn't get it.

[retailguy]

Mmaybe, but Jennings or Jordy was open deep to the right on a cross and had no one there.

I was KIDDING. lol

[pbmax]

It was a shitty play call.

OK, now I see you playing with me. Nice one.

[RashanGary]

If I had to order our top LB's in order, I'd go like this:

Matthews
Bishop
Chillar
Barnett

But I don't think Barnett can play OLB, so Zombo and Jones would battle for that spot. Both had good rookie years. I like Zombo's odds. Better against the run.

[Packers4Glory]

I liked the way Flynn ran that. He didn't stretch out for contact. He got tight and got down. That's jsut smart. AR was a dip shit.

what? Flynn got caught between diving and sliding and almost got killed.

[gbpackfan]

Why do I have this bad feeling the Packers are going to let this one get away from them, like I do in every close game. Come on boys, hang on!

[Bossman641]

M3 just doesn't get it.

????

[packer4life]

bad feeling they are gonna drive right down with a TD here

[Tony Oday]

Hawk comes up with a pick!

[Fred's Slacks]

when sacked, the chances your drive ends up with a TD drops to 8%

I saw that graphic too. Funny they actually put on there that if you throw a pick your percentage drops to 0%.

[channtheman]

Playcalling was fine that last drive. Execution was bad (had an open guy on the sack and drop by Jackson) Though I agree you probably could have just kept doing what was working. Hard to complain when the execution is bad though.

And the defense will suck now. Can only hold a lead so long.

[retailguy]

Why do I have this bad feeling the Packers are going to let this one get away from them, like I do in every close game. Come on boys, hang on!

+1 on both points.

[Fritz]

Flynn definitely isn't seeing the field as well as a more seasoned guy.

Here comes New England. Sigh.

[packer4life]

where's CM3 when we need him...oh ya offsides...we need him to make a play and SOON

[Packers4Glory]

come on D. they should be well rested. no reason for Woodhead to carry guys for extra yards.

[mmmdk]

OK, now I see you playing with me. Nice one.

...I think Stubby is plain' with retail :lol:

[red]

If I had to order our top LB's in order, I'd go like this:

Matthews
Bishop
Chillar
Barnett

But I don't think Barnett can play OLB, so Zombo and Jones would battle for that spot. Both had good rookie years. I like Zombo's odds. Better against the run.

hawk is better then chillar, and i'd say he's better then bishop. not flashy, just does his job. and he runs the defense

[RashanGary]

if he would have slid he might have gotten a flag on one of the two guys that dove head first at him

I know, but since when is it even close to smart to stretch out for contact. QB's are so concerned to not get hit that they stretch out like dummies. Flynn got tight, it was the natural way to brace for impact.

[channtheman]

Need a turnover to win this one.

[Fred's Slacks]

How the fuck did he complete that pass?

[Jimx29]

m3 does have a red flag, doesn't he

[mmmdk]

Pats playin' fast; not a Packer trademark.

[denverYooper]

Come on D!

[Packers4Glory]

How the fuck did he complete that pass?

sold his soul.

[Kiwon]

Crap

[channtheman]

This is the worst tackling I've ever seen.

[Jimx29]

game.set.match


prove me wrong mm

[gbpackfan]

nice fucking tackle. This is bullshit. what a bunch of pussies!

[packer4life]

that special teams blunder is gonna eat at me all week

[Bossman641]

game.set.match


prove me wrong mm

Some of you are unbelievable.

[mmmdk]

time for the defense to score.

Yeah...:shtf:

[pbmax]

Bigby came down to defend rush and Brady audibled to pass in single coverage against Shields.

They are waiting for the nickel defense and running on it with impugnity

[Packers4Glory]

gonna be real tough for this offense to eek out another TD. they blew it on the 1 and that is going to cost us.

[channtheman]

Time for a 6 minute grind it out win on the last play drive. Can we do it when it counts?

[packerbacker1234]

Alright, flynn has proven himself all game so far. Now he's behind middle of the 4th quarter. Lets see if he has what it takes. Should we put together a drive and go ahead leaving the pats with little time and Flynn makes a few plays, maybe a TD pass, this is possibly the greatest first start ever for a QB in the history of the game.

[pbmax]

Pats playin' fast; not a Packer trademark.

They are doing that to keep nickel personnel on teh field.

[Fred's Slacks]

sold his soul.

Seriously. The fucker can fall into a shit tank and come out smellen like roses. Unbelievable.

[mmmdk]

Let it be known as : The Stubby Squibby game!

[denverYooper]

It's all right. We've got Matty Ice under center.

[gbgary]

way to go shields

[gbpackfan]

This team had chances to win. They dropped picks, the special teams blunders and the dropped passes are things you CANT do when trying to beat a good team. This team is not good. they are average. and being realistic, they arent going anywhere in the playoffs if they get in. Im sorry, but the injuries are just too much to over come.

[denverYooper]

That was the right call.

[channtheman]

I love it. Jackson finally JUST RAN!

[gbgary]

game winning drive here.

[Bossman641]

Since jackson didn't get stuffed I'll give MM credit for not making a terrible play call.

[gbpackfan]

Flynn doesnt see anything pre-snap.

[packer4life]

he saw that blitz just fine

[retailguy]

Since jackson didn't get stuffed I'll give MM credit for not making a terrible play call.

brown noser! You shouldn't mock "great" football analysis.

[pbmax]

Not a good read.

[channtheman]

Why?

[denverYooper]

Go for it

[Bossman641]

Not sure what Flynn saw there.

[mmmdk]

Since jackson didn't get stuffed I'll give MM credit for not making a terrible play call.

I'm gonna mail you a dvd from last week's Packer game.

[gbgary]

get eight there mm.

[packer4life]

dammit

[RashanGary]

Nice punt.

[Fred's Slacks]

What was that? 3rd down and he throws deep to a rookie in triple coverage?

[Packers4Glory]

why are we throwing to him in that situation? we have better play makers than that to target.

[channtheman]

Game over.

[Jimx29]

shoulda gone for it

[RashanGary]

This sucks. Time is working against us.

[Bossman641]

brown noser! You shouldn't mock "great" football analysis.

But analysis is so much easier when you know the result :)

[Fritz]

I don't get why on third down the Pack didn't try to get five or six yards, then go for it on fourth. There's only five minutes left, man.

[mmmdk]

brown noser! You shouldn't mock "great" football analysis.

Where were you last week?

[packer4life]

c'mon dom, make some magic happen here. any word on collins? wasn't having the best game before he went out with the rib injury

[channtheman]

Time for the defense to make a play. Though I fear we have screwed that up already. Too many missed opportunities already.

[pbmax]

I amm not sure he shouldn't have gone for it. He had field position and the Pats have driven on the D this half.

[Freak Out]

WTF was that?

[RashanGary]

We stop these guys and Flynn leads a game winning TD. . . . We get a 1st or 2nd round pick for sure.

[retailguy]

This sucks. Time is working against us.

We've done really well tonight. Much better than I thought. Regardless of what happens this was a good night for the Pack.

[denverYooper]

Wow, what a bunch of quitters.

[Jimx29]

I don't get why on third down the Pack didn't try to get five or six yards, then go for it on fourth. There's only five minutes left, man.

again...look who's coach

[mission]

I don't get why on third down the Pack didn't try to get five or six yards, then go for it on fourth. There's only five minutes left, man.

Because that makes too much fucking sense, Fritz.

This season has been one head banger after another. I used to know a couple girls who teased like this. Ugh.

[packer4life]

the big stat: 0 turnovers. patriots just know how to win.

[Fritz]

Time for the D to step up big. Like a three and out.

[gbgary]

shoulda gone for it

should have thrown a short pass for a first down.

[retailguy]

Where were you last week?

here - listening to the great analysis. Don't get me wrong, I am not a McCarthy fan, but he has done very very well tonight.

[pbmax]

They run against teh nickel. Capers is playing with fire.

[red]

I don't get why on third down the Pack didn't try to get five or six yards, then go for it on fourth. There's only five minutes left, man.

that's what i was thinking they should have done

[denverYooper]

Al Michaels with the potential jinx in play, saying the pats are 4 minutes from a 6th consecutive game without a turnover...

[mission]

again...look who's coach

Aren't you the GM around here?

[gbpackfan]

now we waste a timeout. anyone worse at time management than mccarthy?

[Fosco33]

Hard to not question that last series. Why a bomb on 3rd and 8? I would've expected a run/pass combo with 4 down territory.

Now - we have to stop Brady and score a TD w/ only 4min and change left. Tough assignment.

[RashanGary]

Shields shows signs of being a really good corner, but he does have occasional gaffs where he just looks tentative.

[channtheman]

Incomplete good! Come on Pack!

[pbmax]

No catch. Good down coming up

[Bossman641]

Way too early to go for it. Have to have confidence in the D. The punt was the right call.

[red]

come on D

big stop here

[RashanGary]

oh man, the tension. . .

[packer4life]

LETS GO D

[mmmdk]

We've done really well tonight. Much better than I thought. Regardless of what happens this was a good night for the Pack.

The Dagger; that's why Stubby is your man and not mine!

[Jimx29]

another gift gone

[pbmax]

Well, it worked.

[red]

nice stop

[RashanGary]

The legend of Matt Flynn gets born here.

[channtheman]

We cannot catch a break. Get it catch! Ha!

[Fred's Slacks]

Wow. Even that we can't pick off. Crazy.

[packer4life]

this is it...god a pick there would have been AMAZING

[Bossman641]

Like I said, the punt was the right call.

[Fosco33]

Time for a picturesque end to a great game - and the crowing of Matt Flynn as a commodity.

[pbmax]

Dear Tramon. Stop going backwards.

Thanks,

pbmax

[denverYooper]

I guess that's why they don't go for it.

Another potential TO missed there. Pats have some luck to make that happen!

[channtheman]

Worse punt returner ever. The guy does not know how to go forward.

[RashanGary]

Flynn!!!! I love this.

[Fred's Slacks]

There has to be someone on the street who can do that as a returner. WE dont' need our shutdown corner doing that.

[red]

COME ON FLYNN

[channtheman]

Sear Tramon. Stop going backwards.

Thanks,

pbmax

If it worked you would have liked it.

[RashanGary]

We have these fuckers on the ropes. . I think we cna run.

[mmmdk]

here - listening to the great analysis. Don't get me wrong, I am not a McCarthy fan, but he has done very very well tonight.

Sorry - was venting a wee bit there. Stubby fine tonite but kinda squibby!

[packer4life]

Like I said, the punt was the right call.

of course it was the right call

[Bossman641]

Worse punt returner ever. The guy does not know how to go forward.

I don't get it. He gets greedy. He moves 10 yards forward and then 6 yards back.

[gbgary]

come on mm...be smart and help flynn out here.

[channtheman]

I don't get it. Why go deep?

[packer4life]

JESUS matt

[denverYooper]

HOLY SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!111111

[pbmax]

Saved by a penalty! WHAT?

[RashanGary]

OH man. .. . Flynn has destiny on his side.

[Jimx29]

there's a gift

[mmmdk]

Vintage Stubby call saved by hands to the face!

[red]

the short shit was working, why stop?

just caught a huge break

[channtheman]

WTF? So stupid it deserves a second post.

And amazing break.

[Jimx29]

Saved by a penalty! WHAT?

i hear ya

[denverYooper]

Dear Packers: Don't mess this up.

Thanks,
Me

[Fosco33]

Was that our Christmas gift part 3 (Bucs in OT, Eagles with comeback of the year)?

[red]

i can't believe they called that, they never give us that call

[Kiwon]

Miracle finish?

[Bossman641]

Vintage Stubby call saved by hands to the face!

MM doesn't tell Flynn to throw it deep into double coverage. Bad read on Flynn's part.

[Jimx29]

dare I say...don't score to fast

[pbmax]

And a good spot. Its like all the karma is comin home to roost tonight.

[mmmdk]

BJ running better than ever seen before sans 1st quater.

[RashanGary]

My wife just said they're better off doing those hand-passes. I said, "running the ball". She said, "yeah".

haha.

[denverYooper]

Don't go deep.

[mission]

MM is such a fucking idiot. God damn.

[gbgary]

mm is an idiot. thanks for the penalty.

[retailguy]

Sorry - was venting a wee bit there. Stubby fine tonite but kinda squibby!

he is what he is. Until we get a real OL, none of this matters. It's been 4 years now, they're great one week and suck the next...

[channtheman]

THey messed up the first down. How did they screw that up?

[red]

come on clock, tick

[packer4life]

good sneak, move the chains, lets do this plenty of time

[RashanGary]

NE is exhausted. Time of possession is horrible in our favor. They have got to be gassed.

[Jimx29]

HE DIDN'T SLIDE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fred's Slacks]

I also like the hand passes.

[mmmdk]

MM doesn't tell Flynn to throw it deep into double coverage. Bad read on Flynn's part.

AR does it too! The route is there and called.

[channtheman]

HE DIDN'T SLIDE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMAO.

[Bossman641]

Do you people realize how quarterbacking works? Almost every play has a deep route. That doesn't mean the deep guy is the primary read.

[pbmax]

Everyth9ing is woking for them. Its even a four point deficit so M3 cannot stop for a 53 yard FG try,

By the way. If Kuhn scored earlierr from short, I would have called the 10 pint fourth quarter lead. I am not disappointed in that at all.

[red]

My wife just said they're better off doing those hand-passes. I said, "running the ball". She said, "yeah".

haha.

maybe if we tell m3 that they are called hand "passes" he'd do more of them

[RashanGary]

I love the way we're running it. They are exhausted. They're going to have to start blitzing justbecuase thier big guys are gassed. Flynn's going to have to make a play.

[mmmdk]

he is what he is. Until we get a real OL, none of this matters. It's been 4 years now, they're great one week and suck the next...

OL is Sitton and some guys...Bulaga will be someone though.

[channtheman]

Do you people realize how quarterbacking works? Almost every play has a deep route. That doesn't mean the deep guy is the primary read.

Yeah and we're wondering why Flynn went deep. At least I am!

[RashanGary]

maybe if we tell m3 that they are called hand "passes" he'd do more of them

HAHAHA

[denverYooper]

This game is more comfortable without those 2 big mistakes.

Still. I figured that this would be a near ideal situation for them to be -- keeping the game winnable.

But hell, now I'm greedy. Just win, Flynn!

[retailguy]

HE DIDN'T SLIDE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's OK - rodgers is back next week.

[Fosco33]

Well ladies/gentleman - you can't ask for a better shot than this. Opportunity to win on last possession.

A W is just gravy - so play for fun.

[packerbacker1234]

It was just a bad decision by Flynn, but hey, give the man a break. He is having one of the best first starts for any QB in the history of the game. He will learn the reads better given more playing time. It got called back, and we can still win this game. Lets go Flynn.

[Packers4Glory]

Jackson really has poor vision.

[mmmdk]

Will we win and break close game curse?

[retailguy]

Do you people realize how quarterbacking works? Almost every play has a deep route. That doesn't mean the deep guy is the primary read.

We have a WINNER! No. They don't know how it works...

[channtheman]

Jackson misses the big cutbacks all the time.

[Fosco33]

Are we actually going to have a 100 yard rusher?

[RashanGary]

3rd and 4. RUN

[Packers4Glory]

another roll out to the left...where he has no arm strength. UGH

[RashanGary]

RUN RUN RUN

[Fosco33]

3rd and 4. RUN
+1

[Bossman641]

Yeah and we're wondering why Flynn went deep. At least I am!

Right. But people bitching that is MM's fault is getting old.

[retailguy]

OL is Sitton and some guys...Bulaga will be someone though.

Maybe. We'll see. Sitton is a man among boys.

[pbmax]

Hello Donald.

[denverYooper]

This is some crazy game!

[Jimx29]

another roll out to the left...where he has no arm strength. UGH

he does look really off when he rolls that way

[mmmdk]

Why the timeout? Play fast; play action and then run it up the gut!

[gbgary]

yes...first down.

[red]

alright, come on guys

no not a time out

i'm scared to death of leaving any time on the clock. you know m3 is gonna take 4 shots at the endzone here

[denverYooper]

Screen to Kuhn.

[pbmax]

He never saw it coming.

[channtheman]

We win this game and we will get a first round bye. I'm serious.

[packer4life]

8%

[denverYooper]

Somebody forgot to block that guy.

[Packers4Glory]

run the fucking ball..you are winning the battles now because they are beat and tired.

now we are forced to throw.

[red]

yeah take a timeout, let them catch their breath and let a much smarter coach then you figure things out

[mmmdk]

Why the timeout? Play fast; play action and then run it up the gut!

Nice time out....AGAIN!

Idiots - if we win it's due to LUCK not brains!

[channtheman]

Great.

[gbgary]

shotgun=fail

[denverYooper]

8%

Except we have Matt Flynn.

[channtheman]

Hurry hurry hurry hurry!

[denverYooper]

TD

[channtheman]

Go go go go go!

[red]

come on guys

[Packers4Glory]

game/time management....FAIL

[denverYooper]

Damn

[channtheman]

God fucking damn Flynn.

[gbgary]

dang it

[Jimx29]

MM again.............unfuckingbelieveable

[pbmax]

Terrible, but with a rook, that was a hard two minute drill to make.

[Bossman641]

Terrible clock management by Flynn. Just awful.

[red]

m3 you fat fuck why in the fuck did you take that time out

you fucked us

[denverYooper]

game/time management....FAIL

I guess. But man, they played a hell of a game.

[mmmdk]

Idiots! Ugly head coaching!

[Teamcheez1]

What a joke. This team is so poorly coached, where do you begin?