Official Packers- Bears game day thread 11-4-2013

[Packers4Glory]

Hold!

[pittstang5]

GOD!!!

[ThunderDan]

Complete hold.

[channtheman]

Williams doesn't play outside either.

[mmmdk]

Tramon sucks!

[red]

Don't they usually put a brace on a broken collarbone? Must not be the issue.

thats what i though, should be in something if its a broken cb

[pbmax]

I love you Nate Palmer.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Did they take the holding penalty off the books?

[Upnorth]

not a clue at this point as to what it could be

if there's no ice or sling then why isn't he playing?

if it is an injury and he can't play then why don't they have him in a sling with some ice?
Started as collarbone but after further examination it is looking more like a hamstring.
Also duck sakes!

[George Cumby]

What's the word on Rodgers injury?

[red]

Williams doesn't play outside either.

he just played 20 yards off the LOS on that play

[Brandon494]

Thats cool just leave one of the best pass catching HBs in the league wide open.

[pbmax]

Another blatant hold and no call

Long on Jones shoulder

[pittstang5]

Fuck!!! need a turnover

[superfan]

That is at least the second time Forte has been left completely alone.

[pittstang5]

C'mon D...gotta step up!!!!

[channtheman]

Please dear God defense, hold them to a field goal.

[pbmax]

Thats cool just leave one of the best pass catching HBs in the league wide open.

I think Jones misplayed that he was alone with no one in his area

[ThunderDan]

Offensive pi.

[mmmdk]

Pack D clueless...and injury depleted.

[Cheesehead Craig]

We can't win a shootout with Chicago. Not with our offense.

[red]

What's the word on Rodgers injury?

nothing, nothing at all

[pbmax]

Is Neal hurt?

[channtheman]

This defense sucks.

[red]

wow

[pittstang5]

Is Neal hurt?

Probably, who isn't

[pbmax]

Push off on Marshall

[Packers4Glory]

Get your hands up you dipshit house

[denverYooper]

Packers defense needs to get a turnover tonight. How long has it been?

[Upnorth]

I wish we were playing cutler, screw you mccown

[red]

Is Neal hurt?

probably

it might be easier to just assume guys are hurt

[Bossman641]

Would be nice to see a hold called at some point

[Harlan Huckleby]

McCown is playing his way into a starting job somewhere.

The next Matt Flynn?

[Rastak]

Can't believe McCown is playing this well the last couple of weeks.

[pbmax]

Pretty good coverage

[pittstang5]

Yep, field position.

[superfan]

The way he is playing tonight, McCown looks like the second best QB in the NFC North.

[pittstang5]

momentum we had....gone

[Rastak]

Would be nice to see a hold called at some point


Don't count on it.....Jared Allen and Brian Robison seem like they are every other play and nary a call....ever.

[channtheman]

That's super shitty starting field position. Ughhh. Not feeling good again.

[pittstang5]

STFU Gruden, you are so fucking annoying.

[Rastak]

The way he is playing tonight, McCown looks like the second best QB in the NFC North.


Close third.

[channtheman]

Man that looked like an INT. How did Quarless catch it?

[Harlan Huckleby]

The Bob McGinn Legend may grow tonight

[pbmax]

That'll work.

[pittstang5]

I hate that pitch...when it doesn't work

[pbmax]

Love that play. Nice hands Q.

[George Cumby]

nothing, nothing at all

Thanks.

I have a bad feeling about this........

[channtheman]

Rodgers in no brace/sling and no information makes me wonder why the fuck he isn't playing. I mean obviously he's injured but what do we stand to gain by being so secretive about it?

[superfan]

Close third.

Behind Joe Webb? :)

Not a huge fan of Stafford, I think his success is more a result of quantity and scheme.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Rodgers in no brace/sling and no information makes me wonder why the fuck he isn't playing. I mean obviously he's injured but what do we stand to gain by being so secretive about it?

I predict he has a mildly separated shoulder.

But you might expect he would be suited up as emergency QB.

[pbmax]

Behind Joe Webb? :)

Not a huge fan of Stafford, I think his success is more a result of quantity and scheme.

And Megatron mostly.

[mmmdk]

Rodgers in no brace/sling and no information makes me wonder why the fuck he isn't playing. I mean obviously he's injured but what do we stand to gain by being so secretive about it?

I don't know but it could be a bad sign. Dammit Again!

[channtheman]

HUGE play coming up. Need to convert this.

[ThunderDan]

Let's get this.

[Rastak]

Behind Joe Webb? :)

Not a huge fan of Stafford, I think his success is more a result of quantity and scheme.


Might be short changing him a little bit.

[Brandon494]

Wallace how about you run it for once man!

[red]

throw the ball overhand for fuck sakes

[mmmdk]

Midget QBs not good!

[pittstang5]

Is that Bach that gives up those patted passes?

[Packers4Glory]

Wallace is no Russell Wilson.

[pbmax]

One of his few bad runs. Hit the hole when there is traffic

[denverYooper]

Packers defense needs to get a turnover tonight. How long has it been?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Might be short changing him a little bit.

no kidding. I think the guy was second in the league in passing yards last year.

[channtheman]

Be nice to get Wallace on a designed role out for once. See if he can run. Seems like he'd be good at it.

[pittstang5]

NEED A TURNOVER

[superfan]

Looking forward to what McGinn has to say after this game.

[George Cumby]

Is Wallace as atrocious as it looks on the game tracker?

[red]

Midget QBs not good!

short QB's with a low release are not good

[Harlan Huckleby]

Wallace is no Russell Wilson.

ya, but if you threw Wilson out there after not playing in a game since 2011, he would be no Russell Wilson either.

[pbmax]

Raji with screen defense

[red]

Is Wallace as atrocious as it looks on the game tracker?

he has had 3 nice throws tonight, that might be all 3 completions

its kind of like watching ponder on a bad night

[Rastak]

Looking forward to what McGinn has to say after this game.

Guess I was wrong?

[pittstang5]

No mike, these receivers aren't blocking, they're holding

[Harlan Huckleby]

Looking forward to what McGinn has to say after this game.

I predict: "I told you so."

[channtheman]

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK. My thoughts right now.

[Bossman641]

I think we are due for a turnover

[pbmax]

Oh for craps sake Shields, you read the play call beautifully and then whiffed on the tackle.

[mmmdk]

JEEZ

[Rastak]

Wow, looked like Def PI.....

[red]

Be nice to get Wallace on a designed role out for once. See if he can run. Seems like he'd be good at it.

maybe in his younger days

he's 33 now, us old guys can't run much anymore

[pbmax]

Be nice to get Wallace on a designed role out for once. See if he can run. Seems like he'd be good at it.

They have already done it.

[Packers4Glory]

This defense can't force a turnover for nothing

[channtheman]

"Almost intercepted" - Fuck you Tramon. You never make a play do you?

[ThunderDan]

Tramon squeeze that one.

[mmmdk]

NEED A TURNOVER

Slim chance there but got a stop.

[pittstang5]

Gotta move the ball

[red]

Wow, looked like Def PI.....

yeah, looked like hawk was on his back for at least 10 yards before the ball got there

hey, tramon with another dropped INT

no gruden, you haven't seen him make that play in about 4 years now

[channtheman]

Wow, looked like Def PI.....

Thought so too initially. On the replay it didn't look as bad.

EDIT: Also refs calling loose game tonight. Can't start calling close shit now.

[pbmax]

That was D PI on Bennett on Hawk

[pbmax]

Slocum's guys turned around field position. With big assist from defense.

[Rastak]

LOL - that wasn't bad.....

[red]

nice new discount DC ad with ditka and the super fans

[Rastak]

What a dream....

[superfan]

no kidding. I think the guy was second in the league in passing yards last year.

Yes, and I probably am short changing him, but I also wonder how good he would be on a lesser team, with a different offense, without Megatron. I think I just dislike his mechanics.

But I digress - back to GB vs CHI

[pittstang5]

Fuck

[red]

now thats a great idea, even for fibs

[Harlan Huckleby]

Starks has great burst tonight, I'd be mixing him in with Lacy.

[channtheman]

FUCK YEAH. Needed that so fucking bad.

[Packers4Glory]

Need to be able to throw the ball. No way around it

[red]

thanks peanut, we could use some help moving the ball

[pbmax]

OK, got to throw a pass off that pitch action.

[red]

Starks has great burst tonight, I'd be mixing him in with Lacy.

i think he's only had 1 carry since he's big TD run

is that right?

[Packers4Glory]

Why can't we PAP and take a shot down field.

[channtheman]

Starks injured or something?

[pittstang5]

SHIT!! can't move the ball, game over

[red]

o-line needs to try and help out some

[pbmax]

Time for Starks. Lacy just refused to run wide where there was NO Bear D

[channtheman]

Our time is running out.

[Packers4Glory]

Not going to do shit w straight drop back passes. Fail

[Freak Out]

Starks is hungry.

[red]

what did we get 3 maybe 4 yards on that drive?

[Brandon494]

Wow how was that punt not blocked? Thankfully the Bears player decided not to dive for the block.

[pbmax]

Newhouse is terrible

[Rastak]

Our time is running out.


Almost a whole quarter left....ooops guess it is getting close.

[Freak Out]

Also....where the hell is VY? :)

[channtheman]

Seriously, why don't we put Starks in?

[The Shadow]

Packers are playing to lose.
Disappointing.

[channtheman]

Wow how was that punt not blocked? Thankfully the Bears player decided not to dive for the block.

Right?

[pbmax]

Lacy 22 carries, Starks 6

[ThunderDan]

D needs a 3 and out to keep the field position in our favor. Then the O needs to punch it in.

[Harlan Huckleby]

It sucks that Rogers is hurt and Packers behind , but this is exciting.

[pbmax]

Hope for Starks next series. Field position still OK for Packers.

[denverYooper]

NEED A PLAY FROM THE D.

[pittstang5]

If that wasn't a hold, I don't know what is

[red]

Newhouse is terrible


yup

[channtheman]

Our defense cannot be relied on to make a play ever, can they? We can only hope they stumble upon a stop.

[pbmax]

What the hell was that Neal?

[pbmax]

Lattimore getting OLB snaps I think.

Maybe not, he was inside that time. Did not see Jones.

[pittstang5]

3rd and 9.....complete

[red]

god damnit

[Packers4Glory]

Nice tackling. Good grief

[mmmdk]

Bad tackling

[Rastak]

Really close to the 1st....

[SMBASS]

It sucks that Rogers is hurt and Packers behind , but this is exciting.

I like close games but I consider this one to be more frustrating than exciting.

[Harlan Huckleby]

bad tackling by pack tonight, especially after D-line

[channtheman]

Shouldn't be that close. Wiffed tackled all around. Right in line with this D.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I like close games but I consider this one to be more frustrating than exciting.

The Packers have been called to greatness, and Bob McGinn's career is on the line. Can't ask for more.

[pittstang5]

watch the fake!!!

[pbmax]

Whiff on Hayward.

[channtheman]

I like close games but I consider this one to be more frustrating than exciting.

I agree. It'd be more fun if I was a neutral party.

[ThunderDan]

Got to punt if I am Chi with Arod out.

[pittstang5]

fuck, they'll get it

[red]

I like close games but I consider this one to be more frustrating than exciting.

me too, all this is for naught if a-rod is out for any amount of time

[Packers4Glory]

Don't suppose they'll throw a bomb here

[Harlan Huckleby]

so much for greatness

[pittstang5]

now it's over

[channtheman]

FUCK FUCK FUCK. This D never makes any plays, ever. Fucking bads.

The old Hawk is back.

[mmmdk]

Killing us

[ThunderDan]

Hawk you idiot.

[Rastak]

Stupid call......but they got it.

[red]

TACKLE MOTHER FUCKER

jesus christ, fuck our defence, can't do a fucking thing when it matters

[Guiness]

First contact in the backfield and couldn't haul him down! Who was that that whiffed?

[SMBASS]

The Packers have been called to greatness, and Bob McGinn's career is on the line. Can't ask for more.

Bob will just say that we weren't "tough" enough. Lol...

[Packers4Glory]

Huge choke job this series on 3rd and 4th down.

[Teamcheez1]

Team can't tackle to save their lives.

[pbmax]

Another missed tackle

[pbmax]

Oh, Hawk did have to get through a block of sorts.

[pbmax]

Nice by Burnett.

[red]

oh come on, cover the guy over the middle

[Packers4Glory]

Game over

[pittstang5]

now. it's definitely over

[mmmdk]

D sucks...AR doesn't play D.

[red]

we just sent the whole defense on a blitz and they stonewalled us with 6 guys

[channtheman]

Now it's over.

[denverYooper]

Sigh

[Harlan Huckleby]

When a star QB goes down, it will inspire the Defense to win one for the fallen leader.

[channtheman]

Defense just gave up. This is some shit defense we are watching.

[red]

D's running out of steam and heart

[Teamcheez1]

I went into this game thinking that our secondary was a strength on this team. Not anymore.

[red]

When a star QB goes down, it will inspire the Defense to win one for the fallen leader.

our guys desided to say "fuck it" once our leader went down

[channtheman]

The next 3 plays determine if we get to watch Seneca go 4 and out or not. Either way, the game is over. We made it exciting in the 3rd, but couldn't do shit afterwards.

[ThunderDan]

We need a stop and make them kick a FG.

[channtheman]

MM with a brainfart. 2:48 was time for the first timeout.

[Cheesehead Craig]

A 7 minute drive and counting

[channtheman]

Should be 2:43 and 1 timeout left for us.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Seneca run a two minute offense? Hmmm.

[ThunderDan]

MM with a brainfart. 2:48 was time for the first timeout.

Got to agree with that. Need to save time not the TOs.

[Rastak]

I'm thinking Tressman isn't nearly as worried about a 80 yard drive with under 2 minutes......as he would have been. But anything can happen in the NFL....

[MadScientist]

Why did MM wait for the 2 minute warning. Burn a TO, make a stop and have an extra 40 seconds for Wallace to not do a damn thing with.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Where is Graham HArrell when we need him?

[SMBASS]

our guys desided to say "fuck it" once our leader went down

That's the part that frustrates me so bad about this game. Chicago really isn't very damn good and it's been there for the taking even with A-Rod out but absolutely nobody has stepped up to make the plays when we needed them.

[red]

i will drive down to green bay tonight and start shooting shit up if we hear after the game that a-rod was fine and could have returned but was held out as a precaution

fyi, just kidding FBI, i know you dickhead fucks are watching

[channtheman]

Super Bowl hopes are gone, Rodgers has to be done for the year. That's why they aren't talking.

[Brandon494]

Thats game....fuck!

[Harlan Huckleby]

9 yard gain on the ground inside the red zone?

Packer D is shit

[Rastak]

You are sort of fucked now.

[ThunderDan]

Time out!!!

[Teamcheez1]

Super Bowl hopes are gone, Rodgers has to be done for the year. That's why they aren't talking.

This team will struggle to make the playoffs if Arod is out any length of time.

[Cheesehead Craig]

And there's your dagger

[channtheman]

This defense is unbelievable. Absolutely fucking shit tonight. No one, absolutely no one rose up and made a play.

[Bossman641]

Olb have nothing left. Neal and Palmer have played near every down

[red]

game over

fuck our defense, somehow losing our best offensive player managed to turn every single member of our defense to shit

our defensive guys need to be ashamed of themselves after the shit they took on the field tonight

[pbmax]

He just ran the Packers toss.

[channtheman]

We need KC defense. Where's our pick six?

[Bossman641]

Where is Graham HArrell when we need him?

He took my order at bk earlier tonight

[Teamcheez1]

The defense only gave up 430 yards to a Josh McCown led offense.

[pbmax]

He didn't even need to hold him.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Olb have nothing left. Neal and Palmer have played near every down

Chicago ran over 20 more plays than the Pack did tonight.

[red]

He didn't even need to hold him.

not much of a hold anyways

[pbmax]

Well, I will forever use this game to remind everyone that a run game is worth jack in today's NFL. :lol:

[Harlan Huckleby]

When you have a good offense, the D is on the field less, and the opposing offense often is forced to pass more than they might prefer.


You find out how good a defense is when the offense goes south. Maybe they aren't as good as we thought.

[red]

well at least i don't ever have to make any more of these fucking threads

so thats a plus

[channtheman]

I'd feel better if I at least knew the status of Rodgers. Good or bad.

[ThunderDan]

not much of a hold anyways

Made up for the 6+ holds they didn't call the rest of the game.

[red]

Well, I will forever use this game to remind everyone that a run game is worth jack in today's NFL. :lol:

no question about it anymore

[SMBASS]

The last few years this team has been really good at scoring TD's in the redzone and creating turnovers and we completely suck in both of those areas this year. I don't know what the difference is but both of these issues are really coming back to haunt us in tight games. Really disappointed in the way the D played when they knew basically from the beginning that the O wasn't going to be able to score very many points.

[pbmax]

When you have a good offense, the D is on the field less, and the opposing offense often is forced to pass more than they might prefer.


You find out how good a defense is when the offense goes south. Maybe they aren't as good as we thought.

They haven't been good much this year. Middle of the pack at their best. Only the run D has improved.

[channtheman]

well at least i don't ever have to make any more of these fucking threads

so thats a plus

I knew it was a bad sign when you started talking about what would happen when you would have to make future game day threads. Fucker.

[pbmax]

The last few years this team has been really good at scoring TD's in the redzone and creating turnovers and we completely suck in both of those areas this year. I don't know what the difference is but both of these issues are really coming back to haunt us in tight games. Really disappointed in the way the D played when they knew basically from the beginning that the O wasn't going to be able to score very many points.

I was also troubled by the last in the League ranking in red zone defense. Had not heard that before.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Fucking McGinn

[Harlan Huckleby]

9 minute drive

[Bossman641]

My buddy knows a surgeon in the gb area. Nothing official but he's hearing ac joint separation. Thinks they shot him up and sent him out in third quarter for team morale

[Rastak]

Fucking McGinn


It was a fan in Kenosha who didn't wear the lucky jersey.

[red]

fans need to boo these asshole off the field

pathetic effort tonight all around, players need to know it

[Harlan Huckleby]

they needed linebackers more than a QB

[channtheman]

Micah Hyde kick return for TD?

EDIT: LOL I could dream, right?

[Harlan Huckleby]

OK, lets see that Seneca Wallace canon

[SMBASS]

I was also troubled by the last in the League ranking in red zone defense. Had not heard that before.

I wasn't aware of that wonderful fact either PB and this is the first time I've heard about it. That's definitely not a stat you want to be leading the league in either. I guess instead of a, "bend but don't break D" were just a flat out broken D.

[channtheman]

Game over.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Booooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[SMBASS]

It was a fan in Kenosha who didn't wear the lucky jersey.

Yeah, I lived not too far from Kenosha for about 6 years Ras and I never did trust those bastards! Lol!

[Teamcheez1]

O line puts the exclamation point on the loss.

[Rastak]

Welcome to my world.....good night guys.....

[channtheman]

Don't even get a school yard bullshit play. Fuck you Green Bay. You guys are fucking losers. Such fucking losers.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I say pickup Richie Incognito and put him on D. That group needs some attitude.

[red]

My buddy knows a surgeon in the gb area. Nothing official but he's hearing ac joint separation. Thinks they shot him up and sent him out in third quarter for team morale
if thats what it is then the recovery period is anywhere from a few days to 12 weeks

severe seperations and some minor ones require surgery and he won't be able to lift his arm for 4 weeks with 6-8 weeks of rehab to follow before he is allowed to raise the arm up

http://www.cedars-sinai.edu/Patients/Programs-and-Services/Orthopaedic-Center/Clinical-Programs/Sports-Medicine/Acromioclavicular-AC-Joint-Separation.aspx

[pbmax]

Barclay blows a pass block, but hard to blame him as he has switched positions.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Welcome to my world.....good night guys.....

Low blow. Hope you die in your sleep.

[red]

of course our o-line shits the bed completely and rolls around in it at the end

[Packers4Glory]

Seen all I need of Wallace.

[pbmax]

if thats what it is then the recovery period is anywhere from a few days to 12 weeks

severe seperations and some minor ones require surgery and he won't be able to lift his arm for 4 weeks with 6-8 weeks of rehab to follow before he is allowed to raise the arm up

http://www.cedars-sinai.edu/Patients/Programs-and-Services/Orthopaedic-Center/Clinical-Programs/Sports-Medicine/Acromioclavicular-AC-Joint-Separation.aspx

Didn't Woodson have that and miss half a year?

[Joemailman]

Don't even get a school yard bullshit play. Fuck you Green Bay. You guys are fucking losers. Such fucking losers.

Way to hang in there pal.

[pbmax]

It was a fan in Kenosha who didn't wear the lucky jersey.

Patler was watching live too. We might need to sabotage his TV feed. :D

[Harlan Huckleby]

Seen all I need of Wallace.

hey, guy hasn't played since 2011

But.... guess that's his problem and he has to perform.

[MadScientist]

Welcome to my world.....good night guys.....

We feel your pain. All too fucking well tonight.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Nm

[red]

Seen all I need of Wallace.

yup, he can't step up and start

[SMBASS]

Well, that just sucked in every way, shape, and form. Losing at home to the frickin Bears is about as bad as it gets. Heartless effort by the D and nobody could step up and make a play when the team needed it.

[MadScientist]

hey, guy hasn't played since 2011

And he still hasn't played. What he did tonight doesn't qualify as playing.

[red]

Didn't Woodson have that and miss half a year?

i can't keep track of all this years injuries, how the hell am i suppose to remember last years injuries?

but i thought c-wood was a collarbone

[pbmax]

Way to show up when the Pack is down. Nice.

No, Ras is good folks. He is here for both sunshine and rain. If all troll fans on opposition message boards were as nice as Ras, the world would be a better place.

[Packers4Glory]

Get Favre on the phone....

I'm half jokinh

[red]

steve young just hit the nail on the head, we gambled and decided we didn't need a real backup and that idea is about to squat in our face

[pittstang5]

They can't move forward with Wallace, can they? Flynn has to be an option, but wasn't he hurt

[Harlan Huckleby]

steve young just hit the nail on the head, we gambled and decided we didn't need a real backup and that idea is about to squat in our face

When one door closes, another one opens. Welcome Matt Flynn.

[Joemailman]

Wallace isn't good, but getting reps during a week of practice will help him.

Inability of offense to sustain drives wore out the defense at the end.

[channtheman]

of course our o-line shits the bed completely and rolls around in it at the end


They were tired after standing on the sideline for over 9 minutes of game time.

[channtheman]

Way to hang in there pal.

You enjoyed watching 2 sacks to end the game? Last two plays and the ball doesn't leave the QB's hand? That was a good play to you? I realize you didn't say that and don't think that. But you don't see how I could be upset by it? Fuck you man.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I hope this game puts to rest the talk that the backup QB doesn't matter.