Official 2015 Preseason Games Thread

[pbmax]

Then Neal and Pepper trap Ben

[red]

good play by neal

[pbmax]

Hope that becomes a common phrase.

He was 3rd CB in. hayward was in slot, Randall outside.

[red]

how is it at the 1?

the guy is falling into the endzone and throws the ball back to his guy that got it at the 3

ref marks it at the one

wtf?

refs already in midseason form

[Packgator]

nice sack

DB's had a lot to do with the sack. Good team D on that play.

[pbmax]

Weston Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 10m10 minutes ago
Guion is active but #Packers start with Pennel, Raji and Boyd in base

[pbmax]

OK, even I don't like FB dive from your own 1.

[red]

kuhn carry up the middle for no gain, imagine that?

[pbmax]

Barclay gave up some ground even with help on that 2nd down pass

[Packgator]

OK, even I don't like FB dive from your own 1.

I agree. Wasted play. And a scared play.

[pbmax]

Barclay lost his guy wide but someone else beat faster.

[red]

get rodgers out right now

he got destroyed on that play

[pbmax]

Lacy let LB blitz get too deep and then didn't contain him.

[Packgator]

get rodgers out right now

he got destroyed on that play

Now we know why they were scared on the 1st down play and ran Kuhn.

[pbmax]

Rip can flat out play ST.

[Packgator]

Ripkowski once again.......part of every kickoff tackle.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Barclay lost his guy wide but someone else beat faster.

Well, Barclay got beat pretty bad, in any event. He is not good enough for Harrison.

[pbmax]

Now we know why they were scared on the 1st down play and ran Kuhn.

Yeah, but that threat of run on 1st is why you don't always do it. Line has to honor threat of run.

[red]

are they working on a-rod or trying to discus the play with him?

[pbmax]

Lacy let LB blitz get too deep and then didn't contain him.

Harrison got there first off Barclay, but Lacy's guy (51) had good shot too.

[Packgator]

Rip can flat out play ST.

They are going to have to find room for him on final 53. Might be ST MVP thus far.

[pbmax]

Palmer with bad tackle. That club is not helping

EDIT: wrong, it was Barrington that slid off

[red]

does the reception suck for everyone else?

[esoxx]

Packers seldom get chance to return kickoff. Opponents always seem to return them.

Last game it was by design. M3 wanted to see his kick coverage in action. Crosby was told to keep it in play.

[pbmax]

Weston Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 1m1 minute ago
Quinten Rollins getting the second series outside

[Packgator]

does the reception suck for everyone else?

It's perfect here.

[red]

They are going to have to find room for him on final 53. Might be ST MVP thus far.

well they only have one real TE on the team

he can have one of the other 3 TE spots

[pbmax]

Link to Nelson injury: https://twitter.com/NFL/status/635501962302087168

[red]

It's perfect here.

must be nice

its choppy about 50% of the time here

[Packgator]

Last game it was by design. M3 wanted to see his kick coverage in action. Crosby was told to keep it in play.

For real?

[pbmax]

Shields with GREAT jump on WR bubble screen

[pbmax]

Neal very active post surgery

[red]

Link to Nelson injury: https://twitter.com/NFL/status/635501962302087168

hmm, still saw nothing

[pbmax]

Monty with a very Packers punt return. All open field, trip on one defender who is being blocked.

[esoxx]

For real?

Yep. It's just a practice game and he wants to see what he has. Makes sense.

It was in the post-game coverage in JS last week.

[Packgator]

hmm, still saw nothing

I sat nothing there either.

Saw

[Packgator]

Yep. It's just a practice game and he wants to see what he has. Makes sense.

It was in the post-game coverage in JS last week.

I like it. Get the work in now.

[red]

good, tolzien in

[Packgator]

Monty with a very Packers punt return. All open field, trip on one defender who is being blocked.

I thought that had chance to be a big one.

[pbmax]

Janis with hot route but Steelers read it. Took big and high throw by Scoots to avoid a Pick 6

[esoxx]

Judging by action, or lack of it on sideline, he is OK. They could be playing it cool, but that isn't their normal MO.

Judging by action on field, he immediately went down to ground after pivoting. Then immediately hobbled off field. Those actions portend bad news.

Barclay getting beat like a drum.

[red]

Barclay sucks

we are fucked at tackle

[pbmax]

Not good series for Scoots. nearly picked on hot route. Sack while waiting too long in pocket. Also never gave Janis signal for route in no huddle.

[pbmax]

And a Masthay shank around midfield. He is developing Jon Ryan disease where the only booming kick is inside the opponents half of field.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Judging by action on field, he immediately went down to ground after pivoting. Then immediately hobbled off field. Those actions portend bad news.

Barclay getting beat like a drum.

It didn't look good.

[pbmax]

Worst blitz ever out of A gap. Ran right by Ben

[pbmax]

It didn't look good.

Yeah, but its not an ACL. Ankle or something smaller in knee

[pbmax]

Gunter with almost no look PD

[pbmax]

Palmer lost Miller on crossing route

[pbmax]

Blown coverage on TD. Hyde in middle of field doing nothing.

Nope, Randall and someone never moved to take outside receiver on wide route. Nice play

[Packgator]

And a Masthay shank around midfield. He is developing Jon Ryan disease where the only booming kick is inside the opponents half of field.

I'm worried about punting situation. This started last year.

[Packgator]

Yeah, but its not an ACL. Ankle or something smaller in knee

Or hip?

[pbmax]

So far Monty's nose for hole is worse than Starks.

[TravisWilliams23]

I guess holding for Crosby trumps having a decent punter.

[pbmax]

Or hip?

Could be but not walking like it. Hard to be sure from camera

[Packgator]

So far Monty's nose for hole is worse than Starks.

He stutters around looking for hole. That'll never work in NFL.

[pbmax]

2nd o line in the game. Second run play was blocked in interesting fashion. Kinda 7 year old soccer approach. Lacy broke it backside and made good yardage.

Someone should tell RR to NEVER run wide. Head up field big guy!

[pbmax]

He stutters around looking for hole. That'll never work in NFL.

Yeah, and when he runs wide to string it out and get a gap, he always goes to boundary. Needs to cut back when opportunity presents itself.

[pbmax]

Lang and Bulaga stil in game. No run blocking on right side for Starks.

[red]

FUCK US

Lang hurt

[Rutnstrut]

Lang and Bulaga stil in game. No run blocking on right side for Starks.

Lang isn't anymore.

[pbmax]

Lang hurt. Gets water not an exam.

Barclay does not engage DE on screen throw and its tipped.

Gerhart in for Lang

[red]

not impressed with tolzien

not impressed with mashtay

[pbmax]

Lang isn't anymore.

My comment was play he got hurt on.

[Rutnstrut]

For all the shielding from injury they try to do, it seems to do more harm than good.

[esoxx]

Masthay sucks again. And yet his job appears secure.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Barclay getting beat like a drum.

You mean like a red headed step child? Or a rented mule?

Guess it's 2015, got to get rid of the domestic violence, cruelty to animals stuff. Ok, drum.

[Packgator]

not impressed with tolzien

not impressed with mashtay

Definitely two areas of concern at this point. Especially the punting situation.

[Rutnstrut]

not impressed with tolzien

not impressed with mashtay

I have said all along, that there is no way Tolzien can be even a mediocre backup. He showed his talent or lack there of in WI, there is no coaching up that level of suck.

[Packgator]

For all the shielding from injury they try to do, it seems to do more harm than good.

Injuries all over the league seem to be at a crazy high level this pre-season.

[red]

For all the shielding from injury they try to do, it seems to do more harm than good.

yes it does

[pbmax]

Elliot with great pressure but its all wide with him. Like KGB

[pbmax]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 4m4 minutes ago
TJ Lang is walking to the #Packers locker room with Dr. John Gray. Gray isn't an orthopedic guy; usually is go-to on concussions/illness.

[Packgator]

I have said all along, that there is no way Tolzien can be even a mediocre backup. He showed his talent or lack there of in WI, there is no coaching up that level of suck.

Packers must have known this......by drafting a QB.

[pbmax]

Walker still not Top 7 on OL. Gerhart before him too.

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 10m10 minutes ago
Don Barclay still in the game at LT. In fact, starting #Packers line remains intact except for Sitton, who has been replaced by Lane Taylor.

[pbmax]

yes it does

Last year was their best health year in a decade.

[pbmax]

A ref conference on a punt.

[Rutnstrut]

Last year was their best health year in a decade.

I was talking the NFL in general.

[Packgator]

A ref conference on a punt.

I missed the punt. What kind of kick was it?

[pbmax]

Dix and Hayward great run support in tandem,

[pbmax]

I missed the punt. What kind of kick was it?

Best one of day of course. 56 yarder

[Rutnstrut]

Is this another game that Clay didn't even make the trip for?

[Packgator]

Best one of day of course. 56 yarder

At least he bounced back.

[pbmax]

Weston Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 2m2 minutes ago
Hubbard playing the elephant role in last dime package

Weston Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 3m3 minutes ago
Jake Ryan now in for Palmer. Barrington still in

[pbmax]

Most Packer defense play ever. Two guys in position to get ball. Tipped, lands in WR hands

[pbmax]

Hubbard recovers bobbled shotgun fumble.

Scoots with unplanned TO after 1 completion. He has spent too much time with Aaron. :lol:

[pbmax]

Beautiful screen setup right, acres of free space. Harris babbles the pass.

[pbmax]

Janis dumb move inside rather than OOB

[pbmax]

Scoots likes Janis.

[pbmax]

Holding call takes 'em out of red zone.

Barclay.

[pbmax]

Nice out to Pinkard

[pbmax]

Nothing wrong with Scoots arm for TD bullet to RR. If the guy is open, Tolzien can get the ball there.

Not a ton of touch yet. Better than his starts two years ago though.

[pbmax]

Harris with classic 2nd and 3rd effort for 2 point conversion. He can do short yardage with weight/height.

[Rutnstrut]

Nothing wrong with Scoots arm for TD bullet to RR. If the guy is open, Tolzien can get the ball there.

Not a ton of touch yet. Better than his starts two years ago though.

Yup, on the deep ball he has the tendency to hurl it in the area and hope for the best.

[pbmax]

Tolzien also needs to get one half beat faster on reads (or look of coverage longer) because his good medium throw to Quarless was nearly tipped as well.

[pbmax]

Yup, on the deep ball he has the tendency to hurl it in the area and hope for the best.

On the one they thought was a free play this game, he didn't have a ton of space so he put it somewhere safe. But his accuracy overall could be better I agree.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Harris with classic 2nd and 3rd effort for 2 point conversion. He can do short yardage with weight/height.

I keep Harris ahead of Kuhn in RB stable of 5.

[pbmax]

Great interior pass pressure and Randall with undercut pick. Woo HOO!

[pbmax]

Steelers version of DD Grassmaster is terrible.

EDIT: ST slips and missed TB handoff in invertered wishbone

[pbmax]

M3 without play calling duties is a more angry M3 on the sidelines for pre-snap penalties.

[TravisWilliams23]

Tolzien calls a mean time out.

[pbmax]

ST is telegraphing throws by looking too long at target.

TE/WR combo route nearly picked off.

[pbmax]

Dammit: Nelson is a knee.

Lang being checked for concussion.

[pbmax]

Bad drop Janis.

[pbmax]

Then great catch on sideline.

Nope, its coming back.

[Rutnstrut]

Nothing in this game matters if Jordy is out for the season.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think Tolzien looks pretty sharp with throws. He is better than most backup QBs the Packers have had.

[pbmax]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 16s16 seconds ago
The initial diagnosis on #Packers WR Jordy Nelson is a torn ACL, source said. Horrible news. Awaiting MRI results to confirm.

FUCK.

He knew it going to sideline I bet.

[pbmax]

Adams and Janis have to step it up. Cobb still will work best inside.

[smuggler]

Fuck.

[Rutnstrut]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 16s16 seconds ago
The initial diagnosis on #Packers WR Jordy Nelson is a torn ACL, source said. Horrible news. Awaiting MRI results to confirm.

FUCK.

He knew it going to sideline I bet.

FUCK, FUCK, FUCK!!!!!!

[pbmax]

Elliot with nice run stuff off left edge.

[Striker]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 16s16 seconds ago
The initial diagnosis on #Packers WR Jordy Nelson is a torn ACL, source said. Horrible news. Awaiting MRI results to confirm.

FUCK.

He knew it going to sideline I bet.

Goddamn it.

[TravisWilliams23]

No way you can replace Jordy but it is a position that's pretty well stocked.

[Rutnstrut]

Adams and Janis have to step it up. Cobb still will work best inside.

They could step it up 1000% and it will not cover what Jordy brings to this team.

[red]

i knew it, whenever something happens with no contacts, its never good

time for adams to step up big

[pbmax]

They could step it up 1000% and it will not cover what Jordy brings to this team.

Best passing teams don't always win SB. Need to find a way to score without him.

[pbmax]

Randall got roughed up on very nice shoestring tackle on wide cross pass.

Got up a little gingerly.

[Harlan Huckleby]

No way you can replace Jordy but it is a position that's pretty well stocked.

Not really. I mean, there are always plenty of decent WRs. Cobb as a #1? Hmmm.

[Guiness]

51 yd punt AND a 10 yd penalty? Ouch, that's flipping the field.

[pbmax]

Harris' hands are worse than Starks.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Kenzel Doe?

[pbmax]

Oh, its getting better.

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‏@jasonjwilde
Damarious Randall just left the field on a cart.

[Rutnstrut]

Harris' hands are worse than Starks.

I had a HS coach that called guys with bad hands Porkchop hands, harris definitely has porkchop hands.

[pbmax]

And better.

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 3m3 minutes ago
As pointed out by eagle-eyed @WesHod, #Packers QB Aaron Rodgers is on the sideline with his right (throwing) wrist/forearm heavily wrapped.

Gerry Dulac ‏@gerrydulac 8m8 minutes ago
Even Packers QB Aaron Rodgers is hurting; he has right wrist wrapped in ice.

[pbmax]

Rollins get got torched from outside left CB.

[Guiness]

Rollins guy had a full two steps on him there

[Guiness]

Gunther with a good pass defense there

[pbmax]

Gunter is a wall of a CB. Another no look deflection with his off hand.

he is too big to get knocked off his position in coverage

Then in trail coverage his WR gets the ball, Gunter pulls it free.

Seriously talented with the ball.

[red]

gunter might be our best rookie CB

and could end up being the steal of the year

[Striker]

I think this is asked at least once every game we play on a shitty field, but what is with the NFL's "lack of care" when it comes to terrible field conditions?

[Rutnstrut]

Gunter is a wall of a CB. Another no look deflection with his off hand.

he is too big to get knocked off his position in coverage

Then in trail coverage his WR gets the ball, Gunter pulls it free.

Seriously talented with the ball.

He is definitely my favorite new player on the D.

[TravisWilliams23]

Janis not looking good on KO's.

[pbmax]

Given Randall's reaction, I would not be stunned by a concussion.

[Striker]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 3m3 minutes ago
No word on Rodgers' right wrist/forearm. He just took the wrap off his arm. There was ice (duh) underneath.

[Guiness]

What was that Hutley? A 15 step drop? I thought he was rolling out...

[Rutnstrut]

I think this is asked at least once every game we play on a shitty field, but what is with the NFL's "lack of care" when it comes to terrible field conditions?

As long as they get their cut, the NFL doesn't give a shit.

[pbmax]

Janis not looking good on KO's.

I don't understand their blocking. They always let people get deep and head for that penetration. Either block it hard and upfield or cut back off the penetration. Always trying to get around it wide.

[Rutnstrut]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 3m3 minutes ago
No word on Rodgers' right wrist/forearm. He just took the wrap off his arm. There was ice (duh) underneath.

Probably got a contusion when he got hammered in the endzone.

[pbmax]

Well Datone Jones is better than 2d and 3rd stringers.

[TravisWilliams23]

I don't understand their blocking. They always let people get deep and head for that penetration. Either block it hard and upfield or cut back off the penetration. Always trying to get around it wide.

I forgot, FIRE ZOOK!

[pbmax]

Radio says Tolzien is headed to locker room.

[pbmax]

Gaston with sack.

Randall came back from locker room under his own power.

[red]

i looked like datone jones was hurt on the sideline pointing to his knee too

[Guiness]

Well Datone Jones is better than 2d and 3rd stringers.

I just said that that was the Pack's 1st round pick going into his third year getting that sack against the scrubs...

and a big 'ol Fire Zook! for that one

[Rutnstrut]

Radio says Tolzien is headed to locker room.

Well fuck, can't they just forfeit and take a fine so they can get out of there with a few healthy bodies.

[pbmax]

FIRE ZOOK!

[red]

well, special teams might even be worse then last year

is anyone fucking surprised?

[TravisWilliams23]

well, special teams might even be worse then last year

is anyone fucking surprised?

Maybe Zook?

[KYPack]

OK Red.

Give us a drunken "Kill Janis" rap.

Damn, this is a bad ass pre-season game.

[red]

oh good fat mike and zook putting their 2 brilliant minds together on the sideline to try and fix ST

WE ARE FUCKED!!!!!!

[pbmax]

Weston Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 2m2 minutes ago
Datone Jones on trainer's table after limping off during last series

[TravisWilliams23]

Hope both teams work on their run game and end this game fast.

[red]

LOL

"Mike talked about raising the football IQ of the team"

that fucking fat ass idiot thinks he's smart enough to teach anyone anything?

you might want to hire someone with a brain to help do that mike

[red]

Weston Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 2m2 minutes ago
Datone Jones on trainer's table after limping off during last series

yup he was pointing to the side of his right knee like he got chopped

[pbmax]

Randall is back. Breaks up a pass.

Janis with nice punt coverage.

[pbmax]

Richardson with pick. But I think nose hit ground when he flipped over.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Richardson with pick. But I think nose hit ground when he flipped over.

ya, they will probably go with call on the field. Ball can touch ground with full control, but can't tell.

[pbmax]

Daughters with roughing penalty.

Love that Pearl Jam song.

But I mean Vaughters.

[Rutnstrut]

Fire ZooK!!!!!

[pbmax]

Maybe its just a long trip to the locker room.

Weston Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 30s30 seconds ago
Adrian Hubbard being carted to locker room

[pbmax]

Horrible punt by Masthay.

[pbmax]

Rollins part of 2 DBs that got abused for TD. Landry not a bas QB with protection.

Play looked bad from pre-snap. Late coverage fill in for slot WR.

[pbmax]

Ryan White breaks up 2 point conversion.

[beveaux1]

Might have been interference on the conversion. Still a good play

[beveaux1]

What's wrong with Masthay. Every 2nd punt is terrible.

[Packgator]

What's wrong with Masthay. Every 2nd punt is terrible.

We saw this for the better part of last year as well.

[beveaux1]

White is a great conversion defender.

[Harlan Huckleby]

You don't use last timeout with clock stopped.

[esoxx]

Trust me if you haven't seen the replay. This is the best case scenario.

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 2m2 minutes ago
Nelson appears to have twisted his ankle badly.

What a useless turd Silverstein is. Shove that useless tweet up your ass Tom. Anyone with half a brain knew it wasn't an ankle injury.

[red]

we got a lot of work to do

[Smidgeon]

Whenever a major injury occurs, I hearken back to the infamous Morgan Burnett "fuck" thread.

[pittstang5]

Well shit, just heard the news. This is a big blow. Who else went down today. Lang - concussion? Jones? Seems a lot of big players got hurt this weekend for other teams as well.

Really sucks losing Jordy. Damn! Just sucks

[pbmax]

Tolzien evaluated for concussion along with Lang.

Randall and Hubbard needed IVs.

Rodgers banged up on sack for safety. Could have continued to play.

M3 is not commenting on preliminary diagnosis. Wants to wait for MRI. Maybe the team gets one back for missing Charles Johnson?

[red]

Tolzien evaluated for concussion along with Lang.

Randall and Hubbard needed IVs.

Rodgers banged up on sack for safety. Could have continued to play.

M3 is not commenting on preliminary diagnosis. Wants to wait for MRI. Maybe the team gets one back for missing Charles Johnson?

he got hit hard, i thought for sure he would stay down

[Fritz]

Sounds like nobody made the team today but a lot of players went backward.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Sounds like nobody made the team today but a lot of players went backward.

Outside of the Nelson injury it was a typical preseason game. Some good. Some bad. Barclay was brutal. Bakh might be more important to this team than Jordy. Some young guys stepped up. First team offenses went back and forth. Pack took the lead because Tolzien is better than Gradkowski. Pittsburgh won because Landry Jones at this point is better than Hundley and Blanchard.

[Fritz]

Thanks Harv. We need you on this board.

[pittstang5]

Most times when initial diagnosis is Acl, it's that or worse. This is pretty depressing

[pbmax]

Sounds like nobody made the team today but a lot of players went backward.

Gunter is a lock. No way does he make PS.

Walker looked feasible at both Tackle spots. But he played strictly against backups.

Randall looked the part. Rollins too, though he did have two bad moments.

There is pass rush depth on this team (Vaughters, Elliot, Palmer from A gap, Jones had a couple of good ones, Gaston)

They ran for two short yardage scores. If Harris could catch, he would be a one man red zone band.

Ripkowski can play ST coverage. A sorely needed trait. Janis can do it too.

[pbmax]

Weston Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 17s18 seconds ago
Always appreciate Tim Masthay's honesty. Said he's struggling to punt to right side of field right now. "I gotta figure it out quick."

Well that won't make anything predictable at all.

[pittstang5]

I just watched the 1st quarter on the DVR. I'm a little depressed/irritated because of the Nelson injury. I don't like reading articles entitled, "Holding out hope for good news tomorrow with MRI." Peeps - someone says ACL, it's the f'n ACL. He's done for the year, let's face it.

Observations from the 1st quarter

- Didn't know Nelson simply landed awkward and got hurt, I figured he was tackled awkwardly or something. Now, I'm pissed even more that the "turf" caused the injury.

- I'm sick of seeing Clinton-Dix fire through a gap and not make a tackle. It looks cool, but I'm sick of the whiffs.

- The Barclay experiment has to end. I don't know if it's mental or physical, but that man is not right and he should be third string, especially the way he played today. Time for Tretter, Walker or Vujnovich...I don't care, just not Barlcay. I've like what I've seen from Vujnovich in the past.

[Fritz]

Weston Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 17s18 seconds ago
Always appreciate Tim Masthay's honesty. Said he's struggling to punt to right side of field right now. "I gotta figure it out quick."

Well that won't make anything predictable at all.


Ron Zook: "Tim, forget the right side. Just punt to the left."

[red]

Sounds like nobody made the team today but a lot of players went backward.

thats sure what it looked like

although gunter might have made it

[Joemailman]

Sounds like nobody made the team today but a lot of players went backward.

I didn't see the game. Who went backward?

[Patler]

thats sure what it looked like

although gunter might have made it

Without having watched the second half yet, Ripkowski helped his case, too.

[pbmax]

I didn't see the game. Who went backward?

Barclay, at least his chance of being the backup at left tackle.

[Fritz]

I didn't see the game. Who went backward?

It sounds like, from what I've read, Barclay, Janis, and Alonzo Harris all had problems that might reflect larger issues - pass pro, route-running, and lack of sure-handed ness.

[pittstang5]

Barclay, at least his chance of being the backup at left tackle.

I'm not sure when the Pack gets back to practice, but I'd bet that Barclay is not backing up the LT spot.

The way he played, I'm not sure he makes the 53. He was beyond brutal and I've only watched the 1st half so far, trying my best to key in on his play. Somethings not right with him.

[pbmax]

I'm not sure when the Pack gets back to practice, but I'd bet that Barclay is not backing up the LT spot.

The way he played, I'm not sure he makes the 53. He was beyond brutal and I've only watched the 1st half so far, trying my best to key in on his play. Somethings not right with him.

I think they still trust him at RT unless they are grading his summer more harshly than reporters.

But I would be stunned if someone (Walker) doesn't get LT reps versus at least the 2s through the next preseason game. It was pretty ugly. Though Walker himself was the 9th OL that went into the game (Barclay at LT for Bach, Taylor for Sitton, Gerhart for Lang).

[Joemailman]

Not only did Barclay give up the hit that resulted in a safety/injury to Rodgers, he gave up the hit that gave Tolzien a concussion. Hard for a LT to have a worse day. This is a bigger problem right now than losing Jordy.

[vince]

Not only did Barclay give up the hit that resulted in a safety/injury to Rodgers, he gave up the hit that gave Tolzien a concussion. Hard for a LT to have a worse day. This is a bigger problem right now than losing Jordy.
Josh Walker held up pretty well at both tackle spots, though I would be concerned if he were facing an elite speed rusher.

[Bossman641]

Haven't watched the game yet, but Masthay is still struggling? Good god.

[Joemailman]

Josh Walker held up pretty well at both tackle spots, though I would be concerned if he were facing an elite speed rusher.

Brandon Graham of the Eagles Saturday. A very good, if not elite, player.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I think they still trust him at RT unless they are grading his summer more harshly than reporters.

But I would be stunned if someone (Walker) doesn't get LT reps versus at least the 2s through the next preseason game. It was pretty ugly. Though Walker himself was the 9th OL that went into the game (Barclay at LT for Bach, Taylor for Sitton, Gerhart for Lang).

I don't think that has anything to do with their standing. I think they were hoping Barclay would start showing signs that he could get back to his previous form and wanted to give him a long look at LT. I think they wanted to get Walker mostly work at RT to see if he can play there, so when Sitton sat early and Lang went out with a concussion, Taylor and Gerhart subbed for them.

[pbmax]

I don't think that has anything to do with their standing. I think they were hoping Barclay would start showing signs that he could get back to his previous form and wanted to give him a long look at LT. I think they wanted to get Walker mostly work at RT to see if he can play there, so when Sitton sat early and Lang went out with a concussion, Taylor and Gerhart subbed for them.

Walker had been at Guard for a lot of camp. I think he and Barclay were getting tryouts for a backup tackle job. Barclay got first go at LT, which, whatever the internal grading is on each guy, is consistent for M3 and his O line. The vet got the first chance to fill in.

But I am not sure its the same backup tackle job. Barclay could still make this team as the backup RT and Guard, though that begs the question of who backs up at LT. And the answer is probably Bulaga before its Walker, unless he just soars in the two remaining games.

[Joemailman]

Bears DT Jeremiah Ratliff suspended 3 games. It stems from a 2013 DUI. He pleaded guilty earlier this year.

Run Eddie Run!

[Joemailman]

Terrell Suggs was flagged for a hit to the knees of Sam Bradford. NFL now says the hit was legal because it was a zone read play. Eagles say it was a penalty because it wasn't a zone read play, but just a handoff out of the shotgun. I think the NFL is going to have a problem if their weekend employees (Officials) are expected to knpw that much about offensive formations. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000515336/article/kelly-suggs-hit-on-bradford-wasnt-on-zone-read

[pbmax]

Terrell Suggs was flagged for a hit to the knees of Sam Bradford. NFL now says the hit was legal because it was a zone read play. Eagles say it was a penalty because it wasn't a zone read play, but just a handoff out of the shotgun. I think the NFL is going to have a problem if their weekend employees (Officials) are expected to knpw that much about offensive formations. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000515336/article/kelly-suggs-hit-on-bradford-wasnt-on-zone-read

This has just gotten out of hand.

If its a one handed handoff, passer rules apply. If you stick two hands in there, then option rules apply. Bradford used two hands. Hit was legal.

[smuggler]

It was a legal hit, and the NFL already said so. The refs are supposed to use discretion to determine when the option QB has removed himself from the play. Bradford hadn't definitively done that, so chock it up to an officiating error.

[Pugger]

This has just gotten out of hand.

If its a one handed handoff, passer rules apply. If you stick two hands in there, then option rules apply. Bradford used two hands. Hit was legal.

Perhaps this is a rule that should be adjusted.

[smuggler]

I think it's Chip Kelly that should do the adjusting. Imagine if Bradford has torn another ACL...

[pittstang5]

What's the feeling in Green Bay about Rodgers playing tomorrow. Philly talking heads are thinking he won't play and are a little POed cause they want to see how their defense is against the best.

I'd like to see him play, but if Barclay is playing LT, I don't know how any QB is going to have a good night. But, it's the 1st home game of the preseason, the place is going to be rocking even though it's preseason...how can you not have your franchise player at least play a series?

[esoxx]

I don't think he plays the rest of the preseason, nor should he.

[denverYooper]

3 series

[pbmax]

1 series.

[red]

isn't this suppose to be the dress rehearsal?

i don't like playing scared. the starting QB has to play more then 2 or 3 series in all of preseason. if not for him, at least for everyone else to get use to playing with him

[Bretsky]

our OL is not looking good and needs to get healthy
Given that, I sit AROD

What is tempting, however, is the fact that Jordy is down...there would be value to getting into the swing of things w/o have Jordy out there so we have time to make adjustments of what we did not do well

[pittstang5]

I'm thinking at least a series, at most a quarter.

If Barclay is at LT, I'm praying every drop back. I just don't know why the staff insists on keeping him there. Try someone else for God's sake. Barclay can't handle it.

It's like the Newhouse situation all over again.

[Pugger]

I hope we wait a week and have Rodgers play more then with our O line starters is tatters.

[ThunderDan]

Getting ready to head up to Lambeau. Way too long between January playoff game and August preseason to see the Pack at home.

[pbmax]

Have fun Dan.

Watch for the ol' Barbre whiff from LG on the Eagles starting O Line.

Bob McGinn ‏@BobMcGinn 17m17 minutes ago
Allen Barbre, 31 and entrenched as Eagles' starting LG, might be remembered as #Packers' D4 in '07. He was cut off GB's IR list 9-6-2010.

[pittstang5]

Just saw Tolzien will be cleared to play. Very surprised by that, considering the Packer Medical staff is very conservative when it comes to injuries.

Yes, I know there is a certain protocol - but.....you know.

[pittstang5]

Special teams will get a good workout tonight. Eagles were spectacular on Sp teams last year and have continued that streak in this preseason.

[pbmax]

Tolzien is emergency QB tonight only.

Not dressed and not playing

Green Bay Packers
10 WR Javess Blue
41 DB Kyle Sebetic
46 RB Alonzo Harris
69 T David Bakhtiari
70 G T.J. Lang
71 G Josh Sitton
84 WR Jared Abbrederis
87 WR Jordy Nelson
95 DE Datone Jones

[pbmax]

Well KO coverage is in regular season form.

[pittstang5]

fire zook.

Told ya, Eagle Special teams are f'n good.

[pbmax]

CMIII is playing. Hyde was nickel back

[pittstang5]

is it foggy there?

[pittstang5]

Clinton Dix missed that, looked confused

[pittstang5]

Eagles making it look easy

[pbmax]

Smoke from pregame. Ryan Matthews wide run was first well defended play

[pbmax]

Sproles on Sam Bradford. Not even close.

[pbmax]

Tebow stuffed

[pittstang5]

That was pretty pathetic, even on a short field. But it was all check downs and screens from Bradford

[red]

Smoke from pregame. Ryan Matthews wide run was first well defended play

seriously, nfl teams need to stop doing that shit in pregame and halftime

nothing worse then having hi def tvs and not being able to see what player is fucking up

[pittstang5]

God, I really hate when Mayock announces games...radio not an option tonight

[red]

That was pretty pathetic, even on a short field. But it was all check downs and screens from Bradford



even if it was a shot field its still pathetic

and it was our stellar special teams that gave them that short field

i've told you guys, we will not have a decent ST until fat mike is gone. so if you want to keep him, our special teams will be a complete joke. it only cost us a super bowl last season

[pittstang5]

Fuckin back up oline

[red]

cobb is hurt

we are done

[esoxx]

Seperated shoulder.

[red]

fat mike in midseason challenge mode

[pittstang5]

is he really?

[pbmax]

Cobb hurt something in his arm.

[pittstang5]

No fucking Way.....Cmon. We can't lose Cobb too.

[esoxx]

Why would he bother challenging that?

[Harlan Huckleby]

tv must be off in coaching booth

[red]

shit snapped, almost a blocked punt. not good

cobb heading to locker room

[esoxx]

Better get Taco Wallace on speed dial.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The loss of Jordy has destroyed the defense.

[red]

might be time to call randy moss

[red]

The loss of Jordy has destroyed the defense.

its just pathetic, its like none of those guys want to play either

[pittstang5]

FUCK ...Right shoulder injury. Probably seperated.

Yep, we are done. and the defense is playing fucking soft. Put some pressure on bradford

[red]

2nd and goal. if youre ever gonna cover the middle of the field, that would have been the time to do it

but no

[pbmax]

That's three good D plays.

[pbmax]

HHCD gets knocked off with pick route.

[Teamcheez1]

Defense really looks soft.

[red]

That's three good D plays.

but not 4

[pbmax]

Pressure or no, this isn't good:

11:36 T.Masthay punts 34 yards to PHI 45, Center-B.Goode, downed by GB-S.Barrington.

[Harlan Huckleby]

There's always the Badger-Alabama game next weekend. Maybe that will be competitive.