Official Gameday Thread: Packers @ Chiefs

[VegasPackFan]

The penalties need to stop but the only way that happens is we chop the arms off the refs. That Woodson penalty was the worst I have seen this year. He was running step for step with inside position and they call it.

[GrnBay007]

And on a good note......2 hour prison break tomorrow night. :oops:

[mmmdk]

McCarthy does go for 2-point conversion; KC does. Double edged sword.

[Lurker64]

Going for two points here doesn't actually make any sense here does it?

Either way, Green Bay is going to need a touchdown... If they kick the PAT a GB TD gives the Packers a 23 21 lead, so a FG would win the game. If they missed the 2-pt conversion, a GB TD would give the Packers a 23 20 lead, so a FG only ties.

What is Herm Edwards thinking?

[retailguy]

Bigby is NOT the answer for this team. He has ZERO ability in coverage...ZERO.

OMG! Don't say this out loud. Vince will be all over you. He thinks Bigby is the NUMBER ONE resigning priority.... :P

[gbgary]

COME ON PACKER O!!

[packinpatland]

We can do this.
Let's give a collective GO PACK GO!!!

[The Leaper]

KC is sitting on everything short. We need some deep balls.

[fan4life]

The Packers WILL lose this game...and it will be entirely our fault. What... because our D just let them march down into the end zone in all of about 3 minutes???

These two teams are pretty evenly matched, as advertised.

[Brando19]

GO PACK GO

[GBRulz]

OH YES FUCKING YES YES YES YES

[Lurker64]

TOUCHDOWN GREG JENNINGS!

[gbgary]

woo hoo

[OS PA]

Amazing.

[GrnBay007]

WOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO

[The Leaper]

what I said.

DEEP ball.

[packinpatland]

We can do this.
Let's give a collective GO PACK GO!!!


iT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!

[the_idle_threat]

LKUSDGFLIUSDAGVLIASJDBLKBUYVG@!#$!@$%!@

[RashanGary]

I want to ram it down those cocky fuckers throats. They are way too cocky for their own good. This better be a W

[Harlan Huckleby]

those fuckups.

should have burnt more clock before scoring

[Lurker64]

Now the defense really needs to step up.

[Brando19]

60 YARD TD TO JENNINGS OMG

[Brandon494]

GREG JENNINGS!!!!!!!!!!

[gbgary]

let's go for two

[Bretsky]

NOW DAMMIT WE NEED TO STOP A GOOD FOR SHIT OFFENSE W/O THEIR RB

MAKE A STOP DEFENSE :!: :!: :!:

[retailguy]

KC is sitting on everything short. We need some deep balls.

Very good prediction. Very well said. Wow.

[mmmdk]

Going for two points here doesn't actually make any sense here does it?

Either way, Green Bay is going to need a touchdown... If they kick the PAT a GB TD gives the Packers a 23 21 lead, so a FG would win the game. If they missed the 2-pt conversion, a GB TD would give the Packers a 23 20 lead, so a FG only ties.

What is Herm Edwards thinking?

Yes it does. Say GB scores a TD then a GB 2-point conversion is mute as it can't bring GB ahead with 3 point.

[Cheesehead Craig]

My son just said before that play

"The Packers can score a TD at any time"

I'm giving him a big hug right now!

[Guiness]

KC is sitting on everything short. We need some deep balls.

LIKE THAT ONE :shock: :shock:

Wow GJ!

[GrnBay007]

PERFECT THROW......PERFECT CATCH.....BEAUTIFUL!!!!!

:wow: :cow:

[ny10804]

CMON DEFENSE.

[VegasPackFan]

Greg Jenning = GAME SPEED!!!!

He is fast as hell in - game

[The Leaper]

I'm scared. I don't think our defense can stop this KC team right now.

[gbgary]

COME ON PACKER D!!


(i'm not cheering though)

[GBRulz]

KC is sitting on everything short. We need some deep balls.

Very good prediction. Very well said. Wow.

yeah well, he just said a minute ago that we were going to lose this game. I hope he is wrong about the prediction !!

[fan4life]

Unbelievable.

[The Leaper]

Greg Jenning = GAME SPEED!!!!

He is fast as hell in - game

True, but he was running past a LB.

[Brando19]

Wow...if they win...will this be Favre's 37th 4th quarter comeback??

[retailguy]

I want to ram it down those cocky fuckers throats. They are way too cocky for their own good. This better be a W


You should try talking to yourself for a while...

[GBRulz]

Come on, time for a Harris INT

[digitaldean]

Favre 24 for 34 for 360?!! Man those 2 picks were costly, but that last TD was sweet!!

Let's go D!!!!

[gbgary]

COVER GONZALES!!!!

[VegasPackFan]

They seriously may have scored too soon.

Must have a stop here and NO SCORE by KC

[packinpatland]

GO PACK GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO PACK GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO PACK GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lurker64]

Goddamnit

[GBRulz]

challenge

[gex]

wtf pushh off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[VegasPackFan]

NO OFFENSE PI????????

HE PUSHED OFF YOU FUCK REFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Brando19]

This is not good...c'mon D....it's up to u!

[Lurker64]

Oooh. Good challenge by coach Mac.

[OS PA]

Great "Oh, f*ck" moment by McCarthy!

[RashanGary]

GREAT CHALLENGE!!!!!

[packinpatland]

Out of bounds!!!!!!!!!!

[Brando19]

What do u guys think....is it going to be ruled incomplete!

[GBRulz]

his foot on the line counts as out, right?

[gbgary]

Great "Oh, f*ck" moment by McCarthy!

LOL

[digitaldean]

If this happened within the last 2 minutes, we couldn't have challenged this.

[Bretsky]

Great "Oh, f*ck" moment by McCarthy!


Yes, that was awesome

Kind of like a OH SHIT, I gotta find the dam flag

Where the hell has our pass rush went anyways ?

[VegasPackFan]

We have to beat two teams here today.

KC

Refs.

This is fucking horrible while they review if he was in or not, they totally miss his push-off on Harris.

[packinpatland]

his foot on the line counts as out, right?

Yes

[ny10804]

No doubt out. Great job Mike.

[RashanGary]

his foot on the line counts as out, right?

Well, waiving a flag is a prop isn't it?

[gbgary]

If this happened within the last 2 minutes, we couldn't have challenged this.

right...but they would have looked at it anyway

[GBRulz]

YES !!!!!!! Thank god. Now come on, D.

damn, listen to those fans there !! Lots of G&G in the house

[The Leaper]

Great job by FOX to catch the Packer assistant telling McCarthy to toss the red flag.

[gex]

It was still a push off GOD these fuckin refs should be taken out back and shot........ im surprised they got the review right

[Lurker64]

Now let's get three more consecutive incomplete passes, run for a first down or two, and go home.

[gbgary]

COME ON PACKER D!!

[OS PA]

K G B!

[Lurker64]

KGB!

[The Leaper]

KGB!

[packinpatland]

KGB!!!!!

[GBRulz]

his foot on the line counts as out, right?

Well, waiving a flag is a prop isn't it?

true, you never know what you're gonna get with these refs

[retailguy]

KGB is overpaid.... :P

[Lurker64]

Fourth and seventeen, are they punting? They have three time outs...

[gbgary]

WAY TO GO D!!

[Bretsky]

Great "Oh, f*ck" moment by McCarthy!


Yes, that was awesome

Kind of like a OH SHIT, I gotta find the dam flag

Where the hell has our pass rush went anyways ?



WHOOP, THERE IT IS

[OS PA]

No holding or pass interference! Sweet.

[packinpatland]

LET'S GO D!!!!!!!!!

[OS PA]

CHUCKIE!

[RashanGary]

CHUCK!!

[Lurker64]

GREAT PUNT RETURN WOODSON!

[The Leaper]

NICE RETURN WOODSON!!!!!!!!!!!

[GBRulz]

nice return...already in Crosby's range!

[VegasPackFan]

NO FLAG!!! 4th down.

We MUST run the ball effectively here and force them to burn the time outs

[gbgary]

HOW MANY WERE YELLING AT WOODSON TO HOLD ON TO THE BALL??

[OS PA]

Who can't do a worse job than Wood back there?

[Freak Out]

I hate not being able to watch!

[packinpatland]

Way to go Charles!!!!!!!!!!! :bclap:

[Lurker64]

I think this is the first time this season I've been happy that Woodson was returning punts and not some robot that just makes fair catches. A field goal, at least, here is enormous.

[The Leaper]

Huge return!

Both in field position AND taking away the 2 minute warning as a time out.

[the_idle_threat]

Woodson just tripled his return yardage for the year. Nice time for it! :cow:

[Cheesehead Craig]

Big time play!

[Bretsky]

THAT IS HUGE TO GET THE CLOCK UNDER 2 MINUTES

BURN THOSE TIMEOUTS

[VegasPackFan]

Best time possible to have a big return. Run the ball for a TD and this is over.

They also lose their 4th closck stop becasue the return went to 1:59.

NICE

[The Leaper]

If McCarthy attempts a throw here, someone kill him.

[GBRulz]

can you believe Det is beating up Denver 44-0??

[Lurker64]

If McCarthy attempts a throw here, someone kill him.

What if it results in a touchdown?

[Guiness]

Beaut stop by the D. KC still has 3 TO's left though, and they've been moving the ball. It's still a nailbiter!

[gbgary]

If McCarthy attempts a throw here, someone kill him.

we have to throw. we need first downs and we ain't gettin' them running

[The Leaper]

If McCarthy attempts a throw here, someone kill him.

What if it results in a touchdown?

I still want him to die, but I'll be happier! :D

[OS PA]

4+4+4 = W

[Lurker64]

Four yards on first down. I'll take it, was that Jackson?

[Bretsky]

Wonder why Ryan Grant is not in there ?

[mmmdk]

can you believe Det is beating up Denver 44-0??

Cutler out but that's a blowout. Impressive. I can't wait for that Thanksgiving game - it'll tell who's men or mice.

[retailguy]

If McCarthy attempts a throw here, someone kill him.

we have to throw. we need first downs and we ain't gettin' them running

we need ONE first down. ONE. We might get that by running, if we get lucky and get an earthquake during the run...

[GBRulz]

come on guys, no penalties here

[Lurker64]

False start. doh!

[gbgary]

gotta have first downs here. if we throw they have to be good, smart ones.

[The Leaper]

Colledge deserves to be cut after this game...seriously. Obviously, you can't do that...but you could put me out there and have as much success.

[digitaldean]

FRIGGIN COLLEDGE!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:

[mmmdk]

False start. doh!

Major doh !

[Lurker64]

Wonder why Ryan Grant is not in there ?

Maybe McCarthy absolutely does not want a fumble here no matter what?

[Fred's Slacks]

Colledge, go figure. Inexcusable at this part of the game.

[OS PA]

Holy shit Adrian Peterson is SCARY!

[GBRulz]

AP 251 yards rushing? my hell that guy is insane

[gbgary]

COME ON PACKER O!!


gotta get a 1st down here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Leaper]

FYI

We may lose to MINNY next week. Peterson is a frickin beast.

[retailguy]

Colledge deserves to be cut after this game...seriously. Obviously, you can't do that...but you could put me out there and have as much success.

.... do you remember Ahmad Carroll?.... :P

[Lurker64]

So, here's hoping Crosby can make it.

[GBRulz]

that penalty really hurts with the FG try

[The Leaper]

Must make...c'mon Crosby!

[gbgary]

COME ON PACKER O!!


gotta get a 1st down here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dumb ass........i didn't realize we were so close.

[GBRulz]

oh ty, Crosby. That was a huge kick.

[OS PA]

Whoo.

[Lurker64]

GOOD!

[The Leaper]

Crosby never splits them down the middle...but they usually squeak in.

[Fred's Slacks]

Huge Kick.

[gex]

7-1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gbgary]

COME ON PACKER D!!

[Cheesehead Craig]

Need a touchback here. Make them go the full 80

[GBRulz]

come on refs, no stupid calls against our DB's here......

[packinpatland]

*********GO PACK GO***************

[Lurker64]

Now the defense just needs to keep them out of the endzone.

Dear defense,

Please keep them out of the endzone.

[digitaldean]

COME ON D!

No timeouts and they got to score a TD. ONE MORE TIME D, LET'S GO!!!

[The Leaper]

Why a squib kick? DUmb.

[gbgary]

nothing like shortening the field for them

[Brandon494]

7-1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wow shut up

[retailguy]

COME ON PACKER O!!


gotta get a 1st down here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dumb ass........i didn't realize we were so close.


Man, you're just attacking everybody today.... jeez. :wink:

[RashanGary]

GREG JENNINGS!! makes defenses pay!!

[gbgary]

COME ON PACKER D!!

[VegasPackFan]

WHY DID WE SQUIBB!

[Lurker64]

70 seconds...

[The Leaper]

HAWK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Brando19]

OMG i'm so scared....tell me it's over.

[digitaldean]

WTF!!!

Kick it deep, Drummond hasn't done anything all day.

[gbgary]

awesome play hawk

[OS PA]

CHARLES!

[Lurker64]

THERE IS YOUR DAGGER!

[gex]

7-1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

[GBRulz]

oh yeah CHUCK !!!!!!

[The Leaper]

WOODSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[the_idle_threat]

OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO PACKERS D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Brandon494]

7-1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

there you go! hahaha :lol:

[gex]

7-1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lurker64]

Gameball: Charles Woodson.

[gbgary]

THAT'S THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!

[GrnBay007]

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #21!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Leaper]

And stay classy San Diego.

[GBRulz]

Favre has now beat every team in his NFL career !!!!

7-1

[Brando19]

TDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD WOODSON

[digitaldean]

If that guy doesn't make the Pro Bowl this year, something is rigged.

:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:

[gbgary]

WAY TO GO CHUCK WOODSON!!

[RashanGary]

I can't believe how good this team is. It looked like 5 years of doom and gloom as shortly as 1 year ago and now THIS!!!

Wow, the difference a good front office can make!! Maybe it's just not having a complete moron making the personal decisions, but regardless, this is nice!!

[Cheesehead Craig]

Go Woodson, it's your birthday...

[OS PA]

Favre has now beat every team in his NFL career !!!!

7-1

With some of his 4 or 5 interception games he's beaten his own team too!

[Guiness]

Who are we afraid of on the KC return team??

Update coming through:
WOW!!!!!!

[packinpatland]

Game ball goes to Woodson!!!

[GBRulz]

whew....

at least I can relax for 53 seconds

[Fosco33]

Are you kidding me? awesome 7-1

[ny10804]

Jolly DESTROYED someone on that play.

[mmmdk]

First win for Brett vs KC - congrats.

Bring on AP :shock:

[gbgary]

we should have gone for two so four fgs wouldn't beat us

[GBRulz]

Favre has now beat every team in his NFL career !!!!

7-1

With some of his 4 or 5 interception games he's beaten his own team too!

True, but must you rain on his parade? :wink:

[GrnBay007]

What a GREAT ending to a stressful game.

[mmmdk]

whew....

at least I can relax for 53 seconds

LOL - I suck during nail biters. Too cranky.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Now I can feel better about having Gonzo on my fantasy football team

[RIPackerFan]

Playing at two tough places to play, the second on a short week (travel again) and with KC coming off the bye - this is huge.

Great win!

[gbgary]

whew....

at least I can relax for 53 seconds

LOL - I suck during nail biters. Too cranky.

nail bitter?? we're up by eleven. :D

[RashanGary]

Every win seems bigger than the last. The SB is truely starting to look in reach for this team. The running game isn't even that bad and this was a really good front 7.

[Bretsky]

I can't believe how good this team is. It looked like 5 years of doom and gloom as shortly as 1 year ago and now THIS!!!

Wow, the difference a good front office can make!! Maybe it's just not having a complete moron making the personal decisions, but regardless, this is nice!!


The moron you point out brought in a pretty good portion of the talent on this roster

[Brando19]

Congrats Brett...you've beat every NFL TEAM

[Lurker64]

Now. Start scheming how to stop AP.

I hope Williams and Collins are okay.

[OS PA]

K G B

[Fosco33]

Classic ending by KGB

[RashanGary]

5th NFC team in 18 years to do that. WOW!!

[GrnBay007]

It would be nice to have a game where the Packers take an early lead and we can sit back and enjoy watching the game........BUT.......the nail biters sure get the adrenaline pumping!!!!! And as long as we win.....who cares!!

[retailguy]

I can't believe how good this team is. It looked like 5 years of doom and gloom as shortly as 1 year ago and now THIS!!!

Wow, the difference a good front office can make!! Maybe it's just not having a complete moron making the personal decisions, but regardless, this is nice!!


The moron you point out brought in a pretty good portion of the talent on this roster

LOL.

[OS PA]

Classic ending by KGB

Why the hell do they keep him around? All of his sacks come in meaningless, mop ups. :wink: :wink: :wink: :lol: :lol: :twisted: :twisted:

[Brando19]

Collins is such a wuss. He's so injury prone...I've said it time and time again...he's not going to be our starting safety for the years to come...we need to play Rouse more.

[GBRulz]

it just causes us to drink, more 007! That isn't necessarily a bad thing!

[Guiness]

Way to pad those stats KGB 8-)

[Tarlam!]

7-1.Nuff said BABY!!!!

[RashanGary]

The moron you point out brought in a pretty good portion of the talent on this roster

He also completely shredded the deep team that he inherited in the course of 4 years while strapping the team tighly against the salary cap.

Sorry, every time I think of the bad years, I can't help but have spite toward the dumb ass that dug the hole.

[GBRulz]

Bring on the QUEENS !!!!

Let us please activate more DL next week though. God knows we'll need them with AP

[retailguy]

Classic ending by KGB

Why the hell do they keep him around? All of his sacks come in meaningless, mop ups. :wink: :wink: :wink: :lol: :lol: :twisted: :twisted:

He's overpaid too. Just ask anybody. We should get rid of him. :shock: :P

[Tarlam!]

Congrats Brett...you've beat every NFL TEAM

Ditto. Good call, Brando.

[RashanGary]

LOL.

:glug:

ENJOY!!

[GBRulz]

Congrats Brett...you've beat every NFL TEAM

Ditto. Good call, Brando.

Hey, I said it first... :lol:

[RashanGary]

I'm off to toss a football around. What a great win!! see ya's!!

[GrnBay007]

it just causes us to drink, more 007! That isn't necessarily a bad thing!

:twisted:

But I have to go out for dinner later....can't be loopy ...lol

[Lurker64]

Collins is such a wuss. He's so injury prone...I've said it time and time again...he's not going to be our starting safety for the years to come...we need to play Rouse more.

Rouse didn't look so good on that screen pass LJ scored on.

[digitaldean]

Great win Pack!! Let's savor this 7-1 mark today.

A lot of work left for the Pack vs. AP and the Queens next week. Lions are going to be tough as nails rest of the year.

[the_idle_threat]

Congrats Brett...you've beat every NFL TEAM

Ditto. Good call, Brando.

Hey, I said it first... :lol:

I'm so glad that we won this game, for all the regular reasons, but also so that Brett joins Peyton Manning and Tom Brady in holding this distinction. I'd hate for those guys to have this over Favre.

[The Leaper]

Great win Pack!! Let's savor this 7-1 mark today.

A lot of work left for the Pack vs. AP and the Queens next week. Lions are going to be tough as nails rest of the year.

NFC North suddenly is very good...when the defending NFC champ is the 4th best team in your division.

[GBRulz]

Never, ever would I have guessed us to be 7-1. holy fricken wow !!

[GBRulz]

off to watch the Colts/Pats now.

I promise I will start the game day thread on Sat...just for you, Guiness :wink: but NO earlier...lol.

[Bretsky]

Touchdown Ahman Green; oh wait, wrong team.... :lol:

[Iron Mike]

I'm thinking A.J. Hawk showed up to play today. :worship:

[The Leaper]

I'm thinking A.J. Hawk showed up to play today. :worship:

Maybe McGinn pissed him off?

[FritzDontBlitz]

Collins is such a wuss. He's so injury prone...I've said it time and time again...he's not going to be our starting safety for the years to come...we need to play Rouse more.

Wow. Apparently you've never twisted a knee like Collins did? That could end up being an ugly tear.

I have been unhappy about Collins' tendency to get caught staring into the backfield on numerous plays, but I fail to see how he's a wuss because he gets a knee injury trying to make a tackle?

OK, since I just logged on and haven't been following the thread I'll just assume that was an attempt at sarcasm...

[Iron Mike]

it just causes us to drink, more 007! That isn't necessarily a bad thing!

:twisted:

But I have to go out for dinner later....can't be loopy ...lol

It's Daylight Savings Time......you have an extra hour to drink. :P

[Iron Mike]

One of the highlights for me was to get to listen to unabashed Favre/GB hater Troy Acheman have to give props to Favre/GB. :twisted:

[ND72]

Collins is such a wuss. He's so injury prone...I've said it time and time again...he's not going to be our starting safety for the years to come...we need to play Rouse more.

Wow. Apparently you've never twisted a knee like Collins did? That could end up being an ugly tear.

I have been unhappy about Collins' tendency to get caught staring into the backfield on numerous plays, but I fail to see how he's a wuss because he gets a knee injury trying to make a tackle?

OK, since I just logged on and haven't been following the thread I'll just assume that was an attempt at sarcasm...


and considering he has yet to miss a game cause of injuries....

[Rastak]

Wow, watching the Packers score on the scoreboard it seemed like a damn tough game....meanwhile, instead of going out and losing as I expected the Vikings to, they beat the snot out of San Diego in the second half. Peterson sets the all-time single game NFL rushing record and Rivers was running for his life. That dude got hit every other play. Amazing game. Next week should be fun.

[cpk1994]

One of the highlights for me was to get to listen to unabashed Favre/GB hater Troy Acheman have to give props to Favre/GB. :twisted:Hes not that unabashed. He has been kissing Brett Favre's ass with the best of them.

[Packers4Ever]

KRob slipped at the end of the route, just enough for the ball to get picked

Definitely not what KRob wanted to see but all in all
he's doiing ok for starters.

[BallHawk]

off to watch the Colts/Pats now.

I promise I will start the game day thread on Sat...just for you, Guiness :wink: but NO earlier...lol.

No! Do not mess with the mojo. You start it on Sunday, we win on Sunday.

[Packers4Ever]

I'm thinking A.J. Hawk showed up to play today. :worship:

Maybe McGinn pissed him off?


I think so ! I was wondering if he
read this mornings Journal/Sentinel ... :wink:

[Him8123]

Great game today. Just got back from watching it at buffalo wild wings. Incredible. Wasn`t able to breath until 50 seconds left. Woodson came up huge. Hawk Came up huge. Jennings is our savior right now, Thank God we have him. KGB played huge. Awesome win 7-1!!!!!!!!

[Packers4Ever]

Bigby is becoming a big liability lately.

we should resign him while his value is "low". :wink:

hahahaha

Hmmm something tells me we better hold onto this
young man, the backfield isn't getting any younger.
He just needs a little more confidence.

[Bretsky]

Bigby is becoming a big liability lately.

we should resign him while his value is "low". :wink:

hahahaha

Hmmm something tells me we better hold onto this
young man, the backfield isn't getting any younger.
He just needs a little more confidence.


That, and the ability to learn how to play the ball when it is in the air

[GBRulz]

off to watch the Colts/Pats now.

I promise I will start the game day thread on Sat...just for you, Guiness :wink: but NO earlier...lol.

No! Do not mess with the mojo. You start it on Sunday, we win on Sunday.

ok ok, BH !! I will keep starting it on Sunday!!

[GBRulz]

it depends how early we are going tailgating though, so I might have to start it Sat nite.

I hope my vehicle doesn't get keyed by some idiot Queen fan like the last time I went to the Pack/Queen game at Lambeau. God that pissed me off.

[oregonpackfan]

I promise I will start the game day thread on Sat...just for you, Guiness :wink: but NO earlier...lol.[/quote]

Leave it up to GBRulz to be proactive in the PR Forum! :)

[Rastak]

it depends how early we are going tailgating though, so I might have to start it Sat nite.

I hope my vehicle doesn't get keyed by some idiot Queen fan like the last time I went to the Pack/Queen game at Lambeau. God that pissed me off.


Two things, how do you know it was a "queen" fan and second, when did Queens New York get a team?

[retailguy]

it depends how early we are going tailgating though, so I might have to start it Sat nite.

I hope my vehicle doesn't get keyed by some idiot Queen fan like the last time I went to the Pack/Queen game at Lambeau. God that pissed me off.


Two things, how do you know it was a "queen" fan and second, when did Queens New York get a team?


LOL.

No self respecting Packer fan would key a car at a Pack/Vike game, unless that car had MN plates... :wink:

[Rastak]

it depends how early we are going tailgating though, so I might have to start it Sat nite.

I hope my vehicle doesn't get keyed by some idiot Queen fan like the last time I went to the Pack/Queen game at Lambeau. God that pissed me off.


Two things, how do you know it was a "queen" fan and second, when did Queens New York get a team?


LOL.

No self respecting Packer fan would key a car at a Pack/Vike game, unless that car had MN plates... :wink:



And poor Harv or someone like him would be the innocent victim. :wink:

[GBRulz]

it depends how early we are going tailgating though, so I might have to start it Sat nite.

I hope my vehicle doesn't get keyed by some idiot Queen fan like the last time I went to the Pack/Queen game at Lambeau. God that pissed me off.


Two things, how do you know it was a "queen" fan and second, when did Queens New York get a team?

Because someone saw them do it. Other cars got keyed as well.

and if you can't handle being called a Queen, then come out of the closet already :wink:

[Rastak]

it depends how early we are going tailgating though, so I might have to start it Sat nite.

I hope my vehicle doesn't get keyed by some idiot Queen fan like the last time I went to the Pack/Queen game at Lambeau. God that pissed me off.


Two things, how do you know it was a "queen" fan and second, when did Queens New York get a team?

Because someone saw them do it. Other cars got keyed as well.

and if you can't handle being called a Queen, then come out of the closet already :wink:


Well, I for one do not condone keying cars. You can call me names, I'll just turn the other cheek rather than respond in kind. :wink:

[Packers4Ever]

McCarthy needs to make a lot of adjustments.

Colledge needs help on EVERY pass play. If pass protection can be shored up, Favre can beat the KC secondary with ease.

Bigby and Bush can never be allowed to cover the same part of the field ever again. I might never forgive Thompson for taking Harrell over Reggie Nelson.

Favre's play has been unacceptable. A horrible first down throw...a stupid late INT to give KC a chance. McCarthy is equally to blame on that last INT. After nearly giving KC the ball on a lateral, you take your medicine, run the ball, and punt it away. You don't try to make a 3rd and long against a team that has been in Favre's grill all day.


Take it easy, one of these days Brett Favre won't be coming
to work here anymore. Make you feel better? :roll:








Colledge was beat in pass pro; Krob fell; and MM called a play that had KRob in there to make a tough 3rd-and-long play.... but Favre is the problem???

Get real. The whole offense, including Favre, is out of rhythm.

(See above.)

[]{ilr]3]

it depends how early we are going tailgating though, so I might have to start it Sat nite.

I hope my vehicle doesn't get keyed by some idiot Queen fan like the last time I went to the Pack/Queen game at Lambeau. God that pissed me off.


Two things, how do you know it was a "queen" fan and second, when did Queens New York get a team?

Because someone saw them do it. Other cars got keyed as well.

and if you can't handle being called a Queen, then come out of the closet already :wink:


Well, I for one do not condone keying cars. wink:

You mean there is someone who does condone it? :shock:

I am sure even people who do this crap are on the other side of the fence when it happens to them :wink:

[Rastak]

{ilr]3]



it depends how early we are going tailgating though, so I might have to start it Sat nite.

I hope my vehicle doesn't get keyed by some idiot Queen fan like the last time I went to the Pack/Queen game at Lambeau. God that pissed me off.


Two things, how do you know it was a "queen" fan and second, when did Queens New York get a team?

Because someone saw them do it. Other cars got keyed as well.

and if you can't handle being called a Queen, then come out of the closet already :wink:


Well, I for one do not condone keying cars. wink:

You mean there is someone who does condone it? :shock:

I am sure even people who do this crap are on the other side of the fence when it happens to them :wink:


Good point on the fence thing.

But let the record show, the wink was on the name calling thing, not where you quoted it.

[]{ilr]3]

{ilr]3]



it depends how early we are going tailgating though, so I might have to start it Sat nite.

I hope my vehicle doesn't get keyed by some idiot Queen fan like the last time I went to the Pack/Queen game at Lambeau. God that pissed me off.


Two things, how do you know it was a "queen" fan and second, when did Queens New York get a team?

Because someone saw them do it. Other cars got keyed as well.

and if you can't handle being called a Queen, then come out of the closet already :wink:


Well, I for one do not condone keying cars. wink:

You mean there is someone who does condone it? :shock:

I am sure even people who do this crap are on the other side of the fence when it happens to them :wink:


Good point on the fence thing.

But let the record show, the wink was on the name calling thing, not where you quoted it.

Not sure what your refering to or what got changed. I was not trying to hurl insults if I accidentally repositioned any quotes :oops:

[Rastak]

No prob...thought you might have thought the keying comment was winked. I would not condone that at all.....no wink there.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Bigby is becoming a big liability lately.

we should resign him while his value is "low". :wink:

hahahaha

Hmmm something tells me we better hold onto this
young man, the backfield isn't getting any younger.
He just needs a little more confidence.


That, and the ability to learn how to play the ball when it is in the air

The most fascinating thing to me is: Bigby can't cover his own Grandma, he makes a ton of boneheaded plays reminiscent of Marquand Manuel and we still win 7 out of 8 games.

Just unreal.

[4and12to12and4]

I just hope he's smarter than he looks, or we're in trouble.

[4and12to12and4]

Well guys and gals, I'm retiring for the night, I had a blast chatting with you all, it makes game day so much more fun, I'm so glad I found this forum. We're 7-1. I still can't believe it. It's just so unreal. Well, to all a good night, GO Pack.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Kudos to the fans also.


Some support: By rough estimate, about 10% to 15% of the crowd of 78,988 fans were pro-Packers.

Adam Teicher, who has covered the team for the Kansas City Star since 1993, said there was "nothing close" to that many fans backing the visiting team during his tenure.

His colleague, Randy Covitz, has been covering the Chiefs since '86 and basically agreed. Covitz said he was certain there had not been such cheering for the visitor since '89.

And Doug Tucker of the Associated Press, who has covered the team for 30 years, said "this was an unusually large number" and had never been topped by a visitor from the NFC.

"That never happened in my days here," said coach Mike McCarthy, a Chiefs' assistant from 1993-'98. "You saw a few here and there, but our crowd today... you could see 'em in the stadium."

"In my years here, it was a sea of red, man. They stood up the whole game. You never saw opposing people like today."

Tackle Chad Clifton estimated that a third were for the Packers.

"For a while, when they were on offense, it got real loud," he said. "Our fans did. I couldn't believe it. That was surprising."

[Joemailman]

Bigby isn't in there for his coverage skills. He's in there to give the defense a physical presence the Packers haven't had at safety since Butler. There are a lot of good strong safeties whose coverage skills are less than outstanding.

[4and12to12and4]

Bigby isn't in there for his coverage skills. He's in there to give the defense a physical presence the Packers haven't had at safety since Butler. There are a lot of good strong safeties whose coverage skills are less than outstanding.

I agree, and in some ways I will take that weakness over the ability to hit hard and tackle wellk and bring that "mean streak" to the field. We need guys like that. And, while his covering skills aren't great, he still is usually only a step behind, which makes me think that once he gets his legs in the NFL he has higher potential, and could evolve into a good cover guy also. Time will tell. But, for right now, I love seeing him flying around the field like a linebacker possessed.

[The Leaper]

Bigby isn't in there for his coverage skills. He's in there to give the defense a physical presence the Packers haven't had at safety since Butler. There are a lot of good strong safeties whose coverage skills are less than outstanding.

Then we are philosophically challenged.

We have our CBs playing press coverage on the edges...meaning they can be exposed deep from time to time. We need safeties that can cover a lot of ground, ESPECIALLY defending the passing game. They need to be instinctual and aware.

LeRoy Butler might have been a physical presence...but he could also play coverage like nobody's business. The guy also knew what the offense was trying to do at all times and anticipated what he needed to do. Bigby getting beat at the end of the first half was unacceptable. It was obvious Washington would take shots at the end zone. Bigby's one responsibility is to prevent someone getting behind him...and he couldn't do it.

Bigby is a fucking liability back there in coverage...and that is simply unacceptable in today's NFL, where teams increasingly have more and more resources to attack that kind of liability. You will continue to see Bigby get exposed more and more going forward as teams take advantage of his inability to do anything other than play the run.

There is a reason I was adamant that we should take Reggie Nelson in the draft this year. We need a physical presence who can also make plays in coverage. Bigby is a joke in coverage. He has zero ability to identify the ball and make a play on it. He merely plays the man he is supposed to cover...usually one step behind. That will get a flag 100% of the time.

[Carolina_Packer]

Bigby isn't in there for his coverage skills. He's in there to give the defense a physical presence the Packers haven't had at safety since Butler. There are a lot of good strong safeties whose coverage skills are less than outstanding.

Then we are philosophically challenged.

We have our CBs playing press coverage on the edges...meaning they can be exposed deep from time to time. We need safeties that can cover a lot of ground, ESPECIALLY defending the passing game.

LeRoy Butler might have been a physical presence...but he could also play coverage like nobody's business. Bigby is a fucking liability back there in coverage...and that is simply unacceptable in today's NFL, where teams increasingly have more and more resources to attack that kind of liability. You will continue to see Bigby get exposed more and more going forward as teams take advantage of his inability to do anything other than play the run.

There is a reason I was adamant that we should take Reggie Nelson in the draft this year. We need a physical presence who can also make plays in coverage. Bigby is a joke in coverage. He has zero ability to identify the ball and make a play on it. He merely plays the man he is supposed to cover...usually one step behind.

I didn't get to see the game yesterday, but I was thinking about Bigby and our young roster, and it would seem the upside to a young roster is energy, but the downside is experience/confidence. Bigby has never handled the duties as a full-time starter as a pro. While it is great that he's getting his chance, it's also good to remember that he's still learning and growing as a first year starter. We have Butler's entire career to look back over, while Bigby is just getting started, really. Who knows if/how he'll improve, but that's the potential downside and X factor to our "youth movement". When crunch time, the pressure of all pressure is on, how will they respond to the situation? In a few positions like SS, we simply don't know, and we have a very small sampling. I wonder what Bigby will become in the league. I wonder if he can shore up his problem areas. Perhaps not this season, but in the future. We have to live with that if we are turning over roster spots regularly with young guys. Some roster spots are set, but not all, obviously.

[The Leaper]

Bigby has never handled the duties as a full-time starter as a pro. While it is great that he's getting his chance, it's also good to remember that he's still learning and growing as a first year starter.

When it comes to playing a ball in the air, it isn't really a learned trait. It is something you either naturally have or you don't. If anyone would like to cite examples where that isn't the case, please do so...but that has always been my view on that. Sure, inexperience can lead to being out of position and doing bad things...but players like Butler, Sharper or Woodson showed their ability to make plays on the ball when it was in the air from day one.

Bigby clearly doesn't have that ability naturally. He may learn to at least turn around and look for a ball in the hopes to not draw a flag, but that is about it. He'll never be a playmaker in the passing game. Collins can play the ball OK, but he has the hands of a DT.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I think Collins and Bigby have both played better than some think. Teams are going to complete passes on you--especially guys like Gates and Gonzalez. That interference was a really bad play against Bigby, but the rest of the plays I can't fault him much. Sometimes the other team makes a good throw and the TE makes unbelievable plays. Bigby is good as a run defender, and we aren't seeing the huge breakdowns that we saw last year. This defense is good, and the safeties aren't screwing things up like last year. I, for one, am not ready for the start of the Aaron Rouse era. Things could be a lot worse.

[Zool]

I think Collins and Bigby have both played better than some think. Teams are going to complete passes on you--especially guys like Gates and Gonzalez. That interference was a really bad play against Bigby, but the rest of the plays I can't fault him much. Sometimes the other team makes a good throw and the TE makes unbelievable plays. Bigby is good as a run defender, and we aren't seeing the huge breakdowns that we saw last year. This defense is good, and the safeties aren't screwing things up like last year. I, for one, am not ready for the start of the Aaron Rouse era. Things could be a lot worse.

Cant have all-pro's at every position. Guys are going to make mistakes from time to time.

[HarveyWallbangers]

This was a frustrating point in the game.

From Yahoo Sports:


Not-so instant replay: This is not a new observation, but certainly an irritating one nonetheless. More and more, networks seemingly refuse to show great plays (for instance, Bucs receiver Joey Galloway's unbelievable first-half scoring grab between two Cardinals defenders) prior to commercial breaks. Instead, viewers are forced to watch the smiling recipient, the PAT, a sideline shot and then a commercial before getting another glimpse at the score. Even more frustrating was Packers safety Nick Collins emphatically suggesting that his bobbled catch on the sideline was indeed an interception. All the viewers got was one replay, from a bad angle, before Kansas City quick-snapped to keep Green Bay from challenging. Since the point then became officially moot, no other replays were shown as if the instance never occurred.

[The Leaper]

This defense is good, and the safeties aren't screwing things up like last year.

The biggest reason for that is the improved DL play after moving Jenkins to DE and getting improved play from the rotation at DT. The consistent pressure gives the DBs a break.

Bigby IS better than Manual. I'll give you that. However, he's not the answer going forward IMO. We could really use a guy back there who can make plays. We aren't getting enough turnovers considering how much pressure we get up front.

[HarveyWallbangers]

This defense is good, and the safeties aren't screwing things up like last year.

The biggest reason for that is the improved DL play after moving Jenkins to DE and getting improved play from the rotation at DT. The consistent pressure gives the DBs a break.

Bigby IS better than Manual. I'll give you that. However, he's not the answer going forward IMO. We could really use a guy back there who can make plays. We aren't getting enough turnovers considering how much pressure we get up front.

I don't think the DL is playing much differently than last year... to be honest. Last year, we'd play good football on 90% of the plays, and then have a breakdown in the secondary. That's not happening this year.

Our sacks are actually down this year. We get solid pressure (and it comes with just 4 guys most of the time), but we don't get relentless pressure. Jenkins is playing hurt and not providing much pass rush this year. The rest of the guys are playing similarly to last year. The coverage unit has helped the pass rush. It goes hand and hand.

[The Leaper]

The coverage unit has helped the pass rush. It goes hand and hand.

When has Bigby helped the pass rush? Harris, Collins and Woodson are constants. Bigby has made precious few plays in coverage.

The reason we have less sacks this year is because teams are more focused at stopping our rush. Like we had to do last year with a poor OL, opposing offenses are keeping in more TEs and RBs to help block. Last year, teams rarely kept in any help for the OL...it wasn't necessary in their mind as Kampman hadn't proven himself to be an elite DE, Pickett wasn't a pass rushing threat, and KGB was a one-trick pony.

Bottom line: Manual was exposed far more last year in coverage because the offense had more of its playbook to choose from, and Bigby is getting helped directly from a DL that has earned the respect of the opposing offenses.