Who's to blame? NFLN or the cable companies?

[cpk1994]

$0.70 seems pretty cheap compared to $3.00


What bothers me is that the cable companies want me to pay $6.00 to get only one channel that I really want, NFLN.

Its not the money that the cable compaines are balking at. Its where the channel is placed. THe cable companies want to make money off the channel as well. The NFL only wants to keep the money for itself even though they are already getting billions from the networks. This is the same thing regarding the BigTen Network. Its all about placement.

[RashanGary]

cpk, the Cable companies want NFL fans to pay for their higher level sports tier because they know we will. They want to make us pay six extra dollars for 10 channels when we only really want one channel for $1.00

The NFL, on the other hand, wants it to be "placed" on basic cable and with that placement comes a cheaper cost to US.



The NFL is looking out for itself, but in the process, it's also looking out for us. The Cable compaines are looking for a way to ding us out of as much money as possible. In my opinion, we should all be against cable because they are trying to rake us over the coals to get the one channel we all really want.

[cpk1994]

cpk, the Cable companies want NFL fans to pay for their higher level sports tier because they know we will. They want to make us pay six extra dollars for 10 channels when we only really want one channel for $1.00

The NFL, on the other hand, wants it to be "placed" on basic cable and with that placement comes a cheaper cost to US.



The NFL is looking out for itself, but in the process, it's also looking out for us. The Cable compaines are looking for a way to ding us out of as much money as possible. In my opinion, we should all be against cable because they are trying to rake us over the coals to get the one channel we all really want.

BUt many people also DONT WANT NFLN and don't want to be charged for it.

[RashanGary]

BUt many people also DONT WANT NFLN and don't want to be charged for it.

I understand that, but many of us don't want VH1, Lifetime, BET, Oxygen and many others but we pay for them. If they want me to pay for NFLN, great but don't try to sucker me out of 5 times more money just because you know I'll pay it. That is bull shit and the NFL knows exacly what cable is trying to do. I'll bet there are a lot of old granny's that don't want ESPN for $3 every month but they are getting raked over the coals. Screw that, I pay for 50 channels I don't want every month. The least they can do is give me (and millions of other nFL fans) one of our favorite channels on basic cable.

[cpk1994]

BUt many people also DONT WANT NFLN and don't want to be charged for it.

I understand that, but many of us don't want VH1, Lifetime, BET, Oxygen and many others but we pay for them. If they want me to pay for NFLN, great but don't try to sucker me out of 5 times more money just because you know I'll pay it. That is bull shit and the NFL knows exacly what cable is trying to do.

Looking at my cable ill, 5 times more money is an absolute myth. And you have no proof that cable companies will jack the price way up. That is NFL BS propaganda and scare tactics..I have everything bundled under one price and thy haven't once raised my bill more than a $1. Now DVR service is another story.

As I said before, both sides are to blame. Anyone who blames all this just on the cables operators is either ignorant or have their lips firmly chapped on Goodell's ass.

[RashanGary]

I think the NFL has aspirations of having NFLN in every home just like ESPN. If they can get that, they can stop putting prime time games on ESPN or ABC and just carry them all on NFLN (cutting out the middle man).

I want that to happen because then ESPN will lose their highest rated 4 hours of TV. On top of that, most NFL fans will probably stop watching an hour of boring sportscenter and 25 minutes of shit commercials just to get to the 2 minute highlight of their favorite football team for 20 weeks out of the year and then another month before the draft. ESPN has a monopoly on sports views and their $3.00/mo rate reflects that. As much as anything this is a punch in the nuts to ESPN if the NFLN gets broadcast in everyhome and I'll be cable SAVES money in the long run because ESPN will have less leverage next time they to to negotiate the highest priced channel on cable TV.

[Bretsky]

$0.70 seems pretty cheap compared to $3.00


What bothers me is that the cable companies want me to pay $6.00 to get only one channel that I really want, NFLN.

This seems to be a gray area; I've heard Cablecrap wants to charge between $10-$20 per month for the NFL Network

[Bretsky]

I'm not sure of the exact cable prices but my understanding is most channels like CNN or MTV or Comedy Central are very inexpensive (10-20 cents) where as ESPN and other greedy networks know they will have viewers so they charge the big bucks (I believe ESPN is like 3 bucks or so). I blame both parties for being greedy. If the NFL network was say 30 cents cheaper or so it'd be on basic cable.

Hey, I asked for superior channels; I want me .10 to .20 cents back !!

[Bretsky]

BUt many people also DONT WANT NFLN and don't want to be charged for it.

I understand that, but many of us don't want VH1, Lifetime, BET, Oxygen and many others but we pay for them. If they want me to pay for NFLN, great but don't try to sucker me out of 5 times more money just because you know I'll pay it. That is bull shit and the NFL knows exacly what cable is trying to do.

Looking at my cable ill, 5 times more money is an absolute myth. And you have no proof that cable companies will jack the price way up. That is NFL BS propaganda and scare tactics..I have everything bundled under one price and thy haven't once raised my bill more than a $1. Now DVR service is another story.

As I said before, both sides are to blame. Anyone who blames all this just on the cables operators is either ignorant or have their lips firmly chapped on Goodell's ass.

Addition of the NFL Network on Expanded Cable would be around .70 per person; if Cable does it the way they want to the cost will be a lot more than 5X as much.

If I was the NFL network I'd have pro NFL Network commercials running all night tonight in exchange for the broadcasts.

I've had my bill raised plenty cpk; you must not have Charter.

[RashanGary]

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As I said before, both sides are to blame. Anyone who blames all this just on the cables operators is either ignorant or have their lips firmly chapped on Goodell's ass.

I disagree. The NFL is probably my single favorite entertainment product and because I enjoy it so much, I want it to flourish and have the money to bring me more and better coverage. ESPN doesn't do that. They get moeny and spend it on Yankee coverage. No thanks. The less I watch that channel, the happier I am.

This is how cable works. You pay for this so you can get that. NFLN will probably be my most watched channel as soon as I get it and I believe having it on basic cable will allow the NFLN to make even more money, allowing them to bring better programming, allowing me to enjoy my favorite product even more.

Oh no, I'm all about supporting the NFL. What will cable do with the extra money? Nothing other than line their pockets. The NFL on the other hand will line their pockets while also giving us a better football coverage.

[MadtownPacker]

I blame all you cheapasses who expect the NFL, Charter or anyone who isnt yo momma to give a damn about you!

Fork over the $$$, I know you bigtimers can afford the few extra bucks a month.

Sheeze, you guys probably spend more than that $$ supersizing your combo everyday at lunch.

[cpk1994]

BUt many people also DONT WANT NFLN and don't want to be charged for it.

I understand that, but many of us don't want VH1, Lifetime, BET, Oxygen and many others but we pay for them. If they want me to pay for NFLN, great but don't try to sucker me out of 5 times more money just because you know I'll pay it. That is bull shit and the NFL knows exacly what cable is trying to do.

Looking at my cable ill, 5 times more money is an absolute myth. And you have no proof that cable companies will jack the price way up. That is NFL BS propaganda and scare tactics..I have everything bundled under one price and thy haven't once raised my bill more than a $1. Now DVR service is another story.

As I said before, both sides are to blame. Anyone who blames all this just on the cables operators is either ignorant or have their lips firmly chapped on Goodell's ass.

Addition of the NFL Network on Expanded Cable would be around .70 per person; if Cable does it the way they want to the cost will be a lot more than 5X as much.

If I was the NFL network I'd have pro NFL Network commercials running all night tonight in exchange for the broadcasts.

I've had my bill raised plenty cpk; you must not have Charter.

Acutally I do have Charter, and I have been examining my bills to see how it is broken down to get a semblence of how much extra the cable companies are actually "jacking up" my bill vs. alleged claims. I have had Charter since about 98-99 and never have seen a rate increase of more than $1 or $2 dollars in any given year. I also had NFLN on the sports tier back in about 2004(don't remember off hand). There was not a significant difference in what I paid with NFLN vs. what I pay without it since. The only signifacnt raise was for DVR service(which I added and then had the price increased once by $5).

[RashanGary]

The NFL is the most popular sport in our country. They deserve their own basic cable channel. If we have to pay for these other shitty channels, the least they can do is give me my favorite one.

All we can do as consumers is switch and hope everyone else follows suit. I can listen to my Brewers on the radio. The Bucks are run by a shit GM so I can do without them for a couple years (I havn't hardly watched this year anyway). I'm going to make the switch this spring for the draft. Consumers only have one real way to talk and that is by spending our all might dollar else where.

[cpk1994]

The NFL is the most popular sport in our country. They deserve their own basic cable channel. If we have to pay for these other shitty channels, the least they can do is give me my favorite one.

All we can do as consumers is switch and hope everyone else follows suit. I can listen to my Brewers on the radio. The Bucks are run by a shit GM so I can do without them for a couple years. I'm going to make the switch this spring for the draft.

Unfortunately, the NFL has hoped for that for two years and it has failed miserably. The BigTen is finding that out the hardway as well. There will never be enough people switching to make the Cable companies change their minds becuase those who want it bad have already switched.

[RashanGary]

Unfortunately, the NFL has hoped for that for two years and it has failed miserably. The BigTen is finding that out the hardway as well. There will never be enough people switching to make the Cable companies change their minds becuase those who want it bad have already switched.

I've held out because I've hoped it would get fixed. After hearing how great the draft coverage is and the big games we missed this year, I'm changing this spring. I'll bet I'm not the only one.

And I'm not blaming the NFL at all because cable wants to charge me between six and ten more dollars to have the network anyway. No thanks, cable. Seems to me this thing is just getting started.