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    Top Ten Thompson Moves and Mistakes

    The Good
    10. Resigning Aaron Kampman in 2006
    9. Drafting AJ Hawk in 2006
    8. Signing Ryan Pickett in 2006
    7. Extending Donald Driver in 2006
    6. Trading Javon Walker for 2nd round pick in 2006
    5. Drafting Greg Jennings in 2006 and James Jones in 2007
    4. Resigning Nick Barnett in 2007
    3. Signing Charles Woodson in 2006
    2. Trading 6th round pick for Ryan Grant in 2007
    1. Hiring Mike McCarthy in 2006

    The Bad
    10. Drafting Aaron Rodgers in 2005
    9. Not signing Safety Ken Hamlin in free agency in 2007
    8. Signing Guard Matt O'Dywer in 2005
    7. Signing Offensive Linemen Adrian Klemm in 2005
    6. Drafting Brandon Jackson in 2nd round in 2007
    5. Not solving interior offensive linemen problem since 2005
    4. Drafting Daryn Colledge in 2nd round in 2006
    3. Signing Safety Marquand Manuel in 2006
    2. Drafting Justin Harrell 16th overall in 2007
    1. Missing the boat on Randy Moss in spring of 2007
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    For the bad, I'd say the jury is still out in 10, 6, and 2.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by BallHawk
      I'd say the jury is still out in 10, 6, and 2.
      agreed...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BallHawk
        I'd say the jury is still out in 10, 6, and 2.
        Agreed. I think right now, Harrell is more valuable to this team than other likely picks at #16 would have been. Seeing the state of our roster going into the playoffs, I'd certainly rather have Harrell than Meachem or Olsen and even though Dwayne Bowe has looked great, I'm not sure we really need a lot at WR. As I understand it, the popular opinion among a lot of Packer fans were that Thompson should take Bowe, Meachem, Olsen, or Lynch (who was already taken.)

        With Cole and Jolly injured, Harrell has a shot to be a major contributor this year when it really matters. He's looked decent in the last few games too; no pass rush out of him, but he hold the point well.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by packers11
          Originally posted by BallHawk
          I'd say the jury is still out in 10, 6, and 2.
          agreed...
          Ditto here!

          # 5 on bad list is worse than not getting Moss; TT did draft GJ & JJ plus don't forget the talented Murphy who's out of football.

          AR, JH & BJ are still talented guys than are learning & waiting their turn.
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          • #6
            Wow. What a lightning rod here. I like it!

            Here's my take.

            It's tough to look at these decisions in such isolation, as they all have a larger context to the decision-making that make them difficult to individualize.

            I'd put the Manual signing right down there with the Moss non-signing at the worst of the bad. I agree that Moss was there for the taking.

            The two guard signings, while obviously bad when isolated, entailed a lot more complication than can be elicited in a top ten list. Who else was available? What was the cap situation at the time? What would another direction have done to the team's ability to make other good decisions, like sign Kampman for example...

            It's kind of tough to crack the top 10 "good" here, but here are a few nominations...

            Not matching Houston's 5-year big money bid for Ahman Green...

            Atari Bigby found on the scrap heap...

            Donald Lee, who's having a ProBowl calibre year...

            Johnny Jolly in the 7th round...

            I'd also somehow add, rebuilding young depth throughout the roster while achieving cap flexibility and simultaneously returning to NFL prominence as a "good" thing (or four)....

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            • #7
              Re: Top Ten Thompson Moves and Mistakes

              Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
              The Good
              10. Resigning Aaron Kampman in 2006
              9. Drafting AJ Hawk in 2006
              8. Signing Ryan Pickett in 2006
              7. Extending Donald Driver in 2006
              6. Trading Javon Walker for 2nd round pick in 2006
              5. Drafting Greg Jennings in 2006 and James Jones in 2007
              4. Resigning Nick Barnett in 2007
              3. Signing Charles Woodson in 2006
              2. Trading 6th round pick for Ryan Grant in 2007
              1. Hiring Mike McCarthy in 2006

              The Bad
              10. Drafting Aaron Rodgers in 2005
              9. Not signing Safety Ken Hamlin in free agency in 2007
              8. Signing Guard Matt O'Dywer in 2005
              7. Signing Offensive Linemen Adrian Klemm in 2005
              6. Drafting Brandon Jackson in 2nd round in 2007
              5. Not solving interior offensive linemen problem since 2005
              4. Drafting Daryn Colledge in 2nd round in 2006
              3. Signing Safety Marquand Manuel in 2006
              2. Drafting Justin Harrell 16th overall in 2007
              1. Missing the boat on Randy Moss in spring of 2007
              Diagree with 10 and 2.
              I'm very happy we drafted Rodgers, and I think it's WAY too early to pass judgment on Harrell. Sometimes it takes a while for D linemen to blossom. He could turn out to be a great pick.
              Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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              • #8
                Under the bad, I think that the Rodgers pick was kinda based on need. Everyone said we didn't need a QB, but if TT believed (as it seems he did) that Nall wasn't the answer to replace Favre, then it became necessary to find someone as this was right in the middle of the retirement discussion.

                I agree with Vince about the O'Dwyer and Klemm signings. To me it's quite possible that they were signed at the time because they were what was available--they certainly didn't last long, did they?

                I really don't think that Jackson was a bad signing nor was Colledge, provided the thinking really was that he was gonna take over for Tauscher when his days were done. Harrell, we'll see about, but it may go either way. I suspect in the future we'll look at him as a good signing.

                Under the good, I'd move Kampman up some--that was a very good signing. And IIRC, fairly cheap for the time too.

                Most of the other stuff I agree with especially Grant and McCarthy, but I think it's funny that just a couple days ago, people would have fought for putting Walker's exit in the bad category and now no one is disputing that it was the right thing to do.
                "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                • #9
                  The Bad list was sort of hard to come up with, there are a couple of flyers in there and I simply can't disagree with your comments.

                  It was hard to isolate some of these especially on the bad list when you take the interior offensive line, Klemm, O'Dywer, Colledge, are all really the same problem.

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                  • #10
                    Good work, nutz. I like this one:

                    7. Extending Donald Driver in 2006
                    I think this one is underrated. After the Walker fiasco, this showed that Thompson will take care of his own--if you handle your business in the right way. I think he's done wonders for team chemistry by rewarding his own guys (Corey Williams notwithstanding).
                    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                      Good work, nutz. I like this one:

                      7. Extending Donald Driver in 2006
                      I think this one is underrated. After the Walker fiasco, this showed that Thompson will take care of his own--if you handle your business in the right way. I think he's done wonders for team chemistry by rewarding his own guys (Corey Williams notwithstanding).
                      He also gave Al' Harris a nice pay rise and did it behind closed doors. That must have added to Harv' point about sending the right message.

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                      • #12
                        Great topic. It would be interesting to get Thompson's take on both lists.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                          Great topic. It would be interesting to get Thompson's take on both lists.
                          What a great thought. Someone should suggest it to one/all of the blog writers....

                          We'll never get an answer on the 10 worst, however. TT has too much class.

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                          • #14
                            I would put not trading draft picks with the browns last year in the first round as a good move.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MadtownPacker
                              I would put not trading draft picks with the browns last year in the first round as a good move.
                              Mad, is that car real? Does that decal reall exist in real life on that car?

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