Al Harris : Contract disupute? other camp notes...

[Scott Campbell]

I think harris is a little afraid and jelous of woodson. i mean woodson gets paid more, and it also means that he could put a fight up for the number one corner. i think harris wants reasurance that hes still gana be in greenbay

I think he's jealous of the big payday. Woodson hasn't done anything for years. Harris has.

Thompson has to figure out how to tell him no, without it being perceived as the "disrespectful no" he gave to Javon. That's the sucky part of the job.

[Charles Woodson]

I think harris is a little afraid and jelous of woodson. i mean woodson gets paid more, and it also means that he could put a fight up for the number one corner. i think harris wants reasurance that hes still gana be in greenbay

I think he's jealous of the big payday. Woodson hasn't done anything for years. Harris has.

Thompson has to figure out how to tell him no, without it being perceived as the "disrespectful no" he gave to Javon. That's the sucky part of the job.

What he should do is tell him that if he does good this year then he will get a raise. i mean this guy has done alot for us, i still remember the pick against seattle he had in the playoffs.

[Scott Campbell]

What he should do is tell him that if he does good this year then he will get a raise. i mean this guy has done alot for us, i still remember the pick against seattle he had in the playoffs.

I don't think he should do that. Harris is on the backside of his career, and Thompson can't be making any promises about upgrading the contracts of declining players. I think it's a slippery slope anytime you start making those kinds of promises.

When you sign any player to a contract, it's always in the hope and expectation that he plays well for you. So playing well isn't automatic cause for a big fat signing bonus and extension.

[RashanGary]

What he should do is tell him that if he does good this year then he will get a raise. i mean this guy has done alot for us, i still remember the pick against seattle he had in the playoffs.

See what I mean? This is what the exact type of shit that runs through these guys minds. Our own posters are proving my point for me. It's common sense. Guys want to get paid and they think if they sign a bad deal they can perform for one more year. What a joke.

[Tarlam!]

Harris should be thrilled by the addition of Woodson and what it potentially means for Harris' career. Clearly Offenses will be "picking" on Harris. The additional attention will give him a fantastic oppotunity to showcase his stuff.

Harris will earn at least 2.5 million dollars this year. He sits back, he has a pro bowl year, he renegotiates. Where the fuck is the problem with that?

[RashanGary]

LOL,

You saw that SC...Way to go on damage control. I'm telling you guys; these players think they can get it early now. Driver is good, but he's not much better than Barnett or Harris. Thompson might as well have put a big fucking sign on Lambeau field saying "if you think you're underpaid, just ask nice and we'll give you a big bonus and a secure contract"

Just plain bad buisness.

[Charles Woodson]

What he should do is tell him that if he does good this year then he will get a raise. i mean this guy has done alot for us, i still remember the pick against seattle he had in the playoffs.

I don't think he should do that. Harris is on the backside of his career, and Thompson can't be making any promises about upgrading the contracts of declining players. I think it's a slippery slope anytime you start making those kinds of promises.

When you sign any player to a contract, it's always in the hope and expectation that he plays well for you. So playing well isn't automatic cause for a big fat signing bonus and extension.

True i forgot how old harris was, my bad

[Charles Woodson]

LOL,

You saw that SC...Way to go on damage control. I'm telling you guys; these players think they can get it early now. Driver is good, but he's not much better than Barnett or Harris. Thompson might as well have put a big fucking sign on Lambeau field saying "if you think you're underpaid, just ask nice and we'll give you a big bonus and a secure contract"

Just plain bad buisness.

WTF collins. bro ok so are you trying to say that you shouldnt give guys bonuses?

[Scott Campbell]

LOL,

You saw that SC...Way to go on damage control. I'm telling you guys; these players think they can get it early now. Driver is good, but he's not much better than Barnett or Harris. Thompson might as well have put a big fucking sign on Lambeau field saying "if you think you're underpaid, just ask nice and we'll give you a big bonus and a secure contract"

Just plain bad buisness.

See, you keep trying make this about Driver. I doubt that's the case. I think this has lots more to do with the Woodson signing.

I think Driver's extension was a good move by the Packers.

[RashanGary]

Can we agree that the more you pay player A the less you have to pay for player B.

So paying guys more hurts your team.

If we do not agree on that basic concept then I am wasting my time talking to you. If you agree, we can go forward.

Do you see how paying more negatively effects the team?

[Tarlam!]

Can we agree that the more you pay player A the less you have to pay for player B.

So paying guys more hurts your team.

If we do not agree on that basic concept then I am wasting my time talking to you. If you agree, we can go forward.

Do you see how paying more negatively effects the team?

Sorry, I can't move forward on the premise of this collective statement. Call me stupid, but, I always think you pay for value.

[MJZiggy]

Can we agree that the more you pay player A the less you have to pay for player B.

So paying guys more hurts your team.

If we do not agree on that basic concept then I am wasting my time talking to you. If you agree, we can go forward.

Do you see how paying more negatively effects the team?

Can we agree that when you get a reputation for not paying players it becomes more difficult to get them to play for your team and more difficult to hold onto them once you have them there?

[RashanGary]

You obvously didn't read what I said. I didn't say anything about paying for value.

I said, paying more takes away from other parts of your team and therefor paying less is better for the team.

Getting more for your money = Good
Getting less for your money = Bad

Your not stupid, I'm sure your smart in other areas but this is something that is clearly over your head.

[Scott Campbell]

Can we agree that the more you pay player A the less you have to pay for player B.

In some circles that's called a "zero sum game". And that's what paying players is under the salary cap. And yeah, you're probably wasting our time talking to me.

[RashanGary]

Can we agree that the more you pay player A the less you have to pay for player B.

So paying guys more hurts your team.

If we do not agree on that basic concept then I am wasting my time talking to you. If you agree, we can go forward.

Do you see how paying more negatively effects the team?

Can we agree that when you get a reputation for not paying players it becomes more difficult to get them to play for your team and more difficult to hold onto them once you have them there?

What about the reputation that you get when you pay guys early? Do we need another Walker/McKeninzie situation?