Just A Note of Caution.....

[BallHawk]

He originally wanted Derick Ward supposedly.

That's the story that I've heard.

[MJZiggy]

I don't really care. I like who we got no matter how we got 'em. Did you see the other stat in Peter Kings column? The one about there being 145 other backs that make more money than Ryan Grant? Unreal.

[OS PA]

The Giants D has been playing very tough and Eli has done very well in this run so its not going to be easy. Plus they have won like eight or nine strait on the road. But to have the NFC Championship at home is huge.

Death to all who oppose us!

Packers are 10-1 in the last 11 games at home and are riding on 6 straight.

[FritzDontBlitz]

The Giants D has been playing very tough and Eli has done very well in this run so its not going to be easy. Plus they have won like eight or nine strait on the road. But to have the NFC Championship at home is huge.

Death to all who oppose us!

What the hell has Eli Manning done in the playoffS? Not a damn thing if you really look at it. His big comeback drive at the end of the first half against Dallas was all of 37 yards. Everybody is overhyping him as if he's a bigtime threat but he's still the most cowardly, jittery QB in the NFL.

They key to beating New York is to gang up on their run game and let Al And Woody handle their top two wideouts. I would load up on a few blitzes early to set the tempo in the passing game, then ease off and let Eli begin to play his usual shaky game. On offense I would spread them out and let Ryan Grant gash them to death before working in play-action. The tight ends need to be more involved too.

I am not getting overconfident because minimizing turnovers and having a strong running game will be the deciding factors Saturday. We are very well matched for this game, and knowing its at Lambeau and they won't be using a 3-4 defense makes me even more hopeful for a win. We just need to go out and get it done, but its much more doable than we thought a couple weeks ago.

[FritzDontBlitz]

The Giants don't scare me. Not one bit. Eli Manning is still their QB and he is easily flustered. Coughlin's job is safe for another year so I expect a big letdown from the Giants this weekend. If we play our game and the crowd is into it as much as they were on Saturday, there is no way the Giants beat us.

Dallas looked terrible. It appeared they were taking the Giants for granted. The Giants didn't do a heck of a lot against a questionable defense in Dallas. The Dallas offense (Romo especially) looked awful. The play calling that was so brilliant all season wasn't there. The Giants have a very average defense, their secondary isn't anything great.

The only way Green Bay loses this game is if they too look past the Giants. The Giants are a 2nd or 3rd tier team and Eli Manning is not a great QB. Shockey is out and he was the one that did the damage against us early when we played there. Our secondary knows how to tackle to don't expect Burius or Toomer to gat much YAC on us, that is if they have any catches at all. Brandon Jacobs will be the work horse and if we force the Gianst to all passing mode, Eli is toast.

I agree with you about Eli. If Eli is such a threat, why wouldn't they let him pass at the end of the game? Twice they were deep in their own territory and a sustained drive would have finished the Cowboys: the first time they ran three times then punted, the second time he HAD to pass on 3rd and long.

Doesn't sound like Coughlin has much confidence in him at all.

[mmmdk]

One to fear is Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo, former Eagles coach and Packer killer. That's gotta change! :P

[Freak Out]

The Giants D has been playing very tough and Eli has done very well in this run so its not going to be easy. Plus they have won like eight or nine strait on the road. But to have the NFC Championship at home is huge.

Death to all who oppose us!

What the hell has Eli Manning done in the playoffS? Not a damn thing if you really look at it.

He's won two games in the playoffs. Something his brother or Romo failed to do this year.

I'm not to worried about our defense being able to hold Eli and his offense from scoring to many points....it's the Giant pass rush forcing #4 into some mistakes or putting him on the ground. The conditions should be in our favor and if the running game clicks the way it has been their rush won't matter.

[Carolina_Packer]

I heard one of the ESPN guys report that Thompson didn't want to acquire Grant from NY, he was really interested in another of their young backs. (I forget which one, not Bradshaw, maybe Droughns ) Giants wouldn't deal, so he went with Grant (who NY was going to cut anyway) as a consolation prize.

I just heard a Mort Report on ESPN Radio coming home tonight where he said that when TT went out and got Ryan Grant he could have negotiated for Derrick Ward or Ryan Grant and chose Grant because he liked his body type for a running back because it was different from the backs that were already on the roster. Ward is listed at 5-11, 228 lbs., similar to Brandon Jackson's build, if not a bit heavier. Grant is 6-1, 225 lbs., and according to Mort, he reminded TT of Dorsey Levens, if not a bit more slight.

[twoseven]

I heard one of the ESPN guys report that Thompson didn't want to acquire Grant from NY, he was really interested in another of their young backs. (I forget which one, not Bradshaw, maybe Droughns) Giants wouldn't deal, so he went with Grant (who NY was going to cut anyway) as a consolation prize.

I find that hard to believe.

If Thompson didn't really want Grant, why give up a 6th round pick when he was going to be cut anyway? Thompson isn't giving up a 6th round pick on a guy as a consolation prize.

Why the stories of Philbin being very high on Grant and recruiting him out of high school? That tends to tell me that Green Bay DID want Grant.

No, he's right, I watched the same report. Basically it went down as has been typed. TT WAS going after another back that the Giants didn't want to part with. The giants did look to be cutting Grant anyway, hence the swap working out for both sides. Pretty sure Packers would not have had first crack at Grant if he was turned loose, hence the trade. I thought ESPN mentioned that, if not, my bad. Disagree with the logic if you will, but the report was in fact on ESPN last week.

[twoseven]

I heard one of the ESPN guys report that Thompson didn't want to acquire Grant from NY, he was really interested in another of their young backs. (I forget which one, not Bradshaw, maybe Droughns ) Giants wouldn't deal, so he went with Grant (who NY was going to cut anyway) as a consolation prize.

I think the prpoer verbage is 'TT initially had his sights set on another NYG RB, before the grant trade..' I can see the Leaper's side, 'not wanting' doesn't sound right, if he didn't actually 'want' Grant why trade at all? Makes sense to me.

[hoosier]

I heard one of the ESPN guys report that Thompson didn't want to acquire Grant from NY, he was really interested in another of their young backs. (I forget which one, not Bradshaw, maybe Droughns ) Giants wouldn't deal, so he went with Grant (who NY was going to cut anyway) as a consolation prize.

Don't mean to nitpick, but Ruben Droughns isn't my idea of a young back--he's 29 and in his eighth season. In dog years that's only four years old. But for a running back it's getting a little long in the tooth.

[denverYooper]

The Giants D has been playing very tough and Eli has done very well in this run so its not going to be easy. Plus they have won like eight or nine strait on the road. But to have the NFC Championship at home is huge.

Death to all who oppose us!

Packers are 10-1 in the last 11 games at home and are riding on 6 straight.

True dat, but the media doesn't want to blow that one up too large because it would neutralize one of the "hype" points for the narrative on the Giants thus far.

[The Leaper]

I think the prpoer verbage is 'TT initially had his sights set on another NYG RB, before the grant trade..' I can see the Leaper's side, 'not wanting' doesn't sound right, if he didn't actually 'want' Grant why trade at all? Makes sense to me.

My point is that I believe Thompson valued a couple of the Giant RBs...which is why he made the call to them in the first place. He knew he could get one of the guys he wanted at a fair price based on the Giant's circumstances...and it so happened to be Grant who we got.

I'm not doubting that Thompson attempted to get the greatest bang for his buck...and another RB may have been a higher target, and the Giants balked. That is part of the process, and one that I'm sure Thompson fully anticipated.

I think Thompson went into the negotiation believing NY had several RBs that would work for the Packers...Grant included. He just had to find out who the Giants were willing to give up for a reasonable price.

If Thompson doesn't really want a guy, he's not giving up a draft pick for him. He often doesn't give up draft picks for guys he DOES want.

[cpk1994]

Re: Just A Note of Caution.....

We still have one game to play to get to Arizona.

I know the matchup looks good, but the Giants just beat a good Cowboys team, a team that we lost to..............




You can continue your celebrations now.

Yeah we lost to the Cowboys....... without Woodson, without Picket, and for most of the game, without Favre. Means absolutely nothing.

[BallHawk]

Just to make a point, it wasn't TT that found Grant. A few guys in the Packers' scouting department saw him on some film and decided they liked him. They went to TT and told him abot Grant and TT liked what he saw, but he prefered Derrick Ward. As we all know, the Giants wouldn't part with Derrick Ward and TT pulled the trigger on Grant.

However, TT was behind drafting James Jones. It's great that we've got talented scouts all around in this orginization. TT's has one of the best knacks for finding talent of any GM in the league, IMO.