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  • Assuming You Still Believe...

    that the Packers had a chance to win before yesterday's game, and if a re-match was allowed could come up with a way to win, what would you have done differently against the Giants?

    I do believe that they have the talent right now to beat the Giants, but played a bad game. What could have been the difference between winning and losing that game?

    Make more of a commitment to the run.

    Get more receivers involved (Jennings was mostly invisible, Jones was completely invisible)

    Work the middle of the field more on short to intermediate routes and don't try and force the ball deep.

    Adjust gameplan on defense to provide more pressure on Manning, who seemed to have all day to go through his progressions.

    Get Al Harris some help (see point above)

    Keep out of bad down and distances on offense.

    Get them off the field on defense instead of letting them convert so many third downs and keep the chains moving.

    Anything else?
    "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

  • #2
    I would have used the double fullback set with a tight end next to Clifton and Greg Jennings on the outside.

    I would have ran at Osi and hoped to get a cutback lane.

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    • #3
      I'd have started with heated warm-up pants...
      "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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      • #4
        The Packers seemed to surrender the middle of the field in their passing game. I would not have done that. They also seemed to abandon the running game after Grant had his best run of the night in the 3rd quarter.
        I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • #5
          Monday morning QBing is foolproof. In retrospect the Giants were a better team than I thought they were. Defensively, they're as good as us, better on the line, weaker in the secondary. Offensively, they run better than us, but we pass better than them. Add it all up and the weather was the real equalizer. It neutralized our deep passing game and equalized their secondary. It gave them a huge advantage in rushing, both on offensive and on the d-line.

          On that field in those conditions it's a coin toss who wins.

          Now, playing the Giants on a fast field in good weather, I think we beat them like we did in New York, simply because we score lots of points per game and they don't.

          What could we have done different? Now it's easy to say. But prior to kickoff? I guess I wouldn't have thought to run so many flanker screens? Where did that come from? And I was disappointed we relied on only our front four to apply pressure on Manning. I would have blitzed him early and often from many different angles, gambling that Manning would panic. He did a few times when he was hurried. He's still their weak link in my opinion.
          One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
          John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi
            Monday morning QBing is foolproof. In retrospect the Giants were a better team than I thought they were. Defensively, they're as good as us, better on the line, weaker in the secondary. Offensively, they run better than us, but we pass better than them. Add it all up and the weather was the real equalizer. It neutralized our deep passing game and equalized their secondary. It gave them a huge advantage in rushing, both on offensive and on the d-line.

            On that field in those conditions it's a coin toss who wins.

            Now, playing the Giants on a fast field in good weather, I think we beat them like we did in New York, simply because we score lots of points per game and they don't.

            What could we have done different? Now it's easy to say. But prior to kickoff? I guess I wouldn't have thought to run so many flanker screens? Where did that come from? And I was disappointed we relied on only our front four to apply pressure on Manning. I would have blitzed him early and often from many different angles, gambling that Manning would panic. He did a few times when he was hurried. He's still their weak link in my opinion.
            WTF was with the X screen anyway? All those crazy wide throws are dangerous to start with but combine it with the weather and it could have been turnover central...We have talent but we were OUTPLAYED by the Jints...we just got lucky a few times and the game was kept close. We had some chances on screens but we always seemed to run into each other and slow it up enough to kill it....and just to give up on the run was crazy IMO...the line did a great job keeping Favre upright when they brought the heat but he was making crazy reads all night and if I was M3 I think I would have tried to run it a bit more. We blitzed Eli more than what I thought we would but he still killed us throwing it to Plastico...I wanted Atari to take him out so bad.
            C.H.U.D.

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            • #7
              Hope for warmer weather
              Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!

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              • #8
                If I was the coach, I would have DEMANDED that the players wear long-sleeve shirts. No time for macho posturing that puts extra strain on your body.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                  If I was the coach, I would have DEMANDED that the players wear long-sleeve shirts. No time for macho posturing that puts extra strain on your body.

                  I completely agree with this. You don't see macho skiers going sleeveless when its really cold outside. For cripes sake, dress for the conditions so that you can concentrate on what you're doing instead of the cold.

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                  • #10
                    Warmed Aaron Rodgers up.
                    Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                      If I was the coach, I would have DEMANDED that the players wear long-sleeve shirts. No time for macho posturing that puts extra strain on your body.
                      Like Scott, I completely agree with this as well. The bodies on those bare-armed players burned a lot of energy just warming those arms.

                      As a life long long distance runner/jogger, I would not think of running without adequate clothing. The body just would not perform as well because it is trying to warm up the exposed parts.

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                      • #12
                        Bulldog, you said you would hope for warmer weather, but how does that have anything to do with the fact that we owned the sehawks last week in just as cold weather?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Charles Woodson
                          Bulldog, you said you would hope for warmer weather, but how does that have anything to do with the fact that we owned the sehawks last week in just as cold weather?
                          We were able to overpower the Seahawks small DL and run and throw on them

                          We could not overpower the Giants DL and run so it was all left up to the pass. Easier to be consistently effective throwing in good weather
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • #14
                            It was at least 20 degrees warmer last week...
                            "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                              If I was the coach, I would have DEMANDED that the players wear long-sleeve shirts. No time for macho posturing that puts extra strain on your body.
                              This is a completely asinine statement. Wearing loing sleve shirts would not have changed their performance in any way. Secondly, IT WAS THE GIANTS MAKING THE BIG DEAL ABOUT GOING SLEEVELESS NOT THE PACKERS!

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