DE wanted

[Deputy Nutz]

Jenkins seems to be a bit of an overachiever. He's quick, has a good motor. He's kinda stubby for defensive end. HE's more of a rotation guy.

I considered him an overachiever until he signed for 4MIL per year. Now I expect better results and further development.

I think he is still a steal at 4 million a year. Hell, Eric Gagne is making ten million.

Anyways, a pass rush is a big need especially in the second half the season. Kampman really broke down, and I would think getting another solid backup for him is important. It is silly to bring Kampman off the field for someone like Montgomery, but Kampy can't be productive an entire season unless his snap total gets brought down.

Jenkins and KGB are ok on the right side, but reality you need four decent to good defensive ends.

Offensive linemen have gotten so big and athletic that defenses are going to have problems just brining four guys consistently. The Packers need to do a better job at using stunts, disguising blitzes, and overall creating pressure not only from the front four, but from the entire defense.

[b bulldog]

OK doesn't get the job done, we need to be better than OK opposite 74

[Carolina_Packer]

Is Jared Allen a good run stopper?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Jenkins was crushed by injuries this year. I think he'll rebound next year--if he can stay healthy.

[BallHawk]

Jenkins was crushed by injuries this year. I think he'll rebound next year--if he can stay healthy.

Agreed.

[RashanGary]

Just keep aquiring extra picks and keep taking the BPA and as time goes by the team will continue to steam role talent at all positions.

If something good is available (Shawn Rodgers is a good example) then I'm all for it. I'd much rather give Rodgers a good sized contract than Williams. If something is not available that really makes sense than keep accumulating talent and making good decisisions. They will add up. I'm not ready for the off season desperation just yet.

[Joemailman]

Top free agent defensive linemen according to Football's Future:

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/nfl/freeagentsDL.html

[twoseven]

I don't know what kind of bread KC has left in the hopper after re-upping Tony Gonzalez and Larry Johnson last offseason. I do know they regretted getting LJ into camp so late, so what are the odds Jared sees FA without getting the full franchise tag?

Giving up a 1st and 3rd round pick AND having to sign Allen to a charitable contract seems a pretty steep price, considering TT. With only 25 mil in cap, a few soon to be expiring GBP contracts to mull over, and possibly a decent CB in the first round and BPA in the third, it's hard to see giving up so much for one player.

I'm confused on the talk of a #1 and a player? What's that exactly? I thought either type of franchise tag only involved picks.

[twoseven]

Just keep aquiring extra picks and keep taking the BPA and as time goes by the team will continue to steam role talent at all positions.

At this point with our team so young, which 6-8 guys are we cutting to make room for our 6-8 08' draft picks? Is this easily done, is this a wise decision, are we potentially in a position to trade up rather than shuffle at the bottom of the pile tossing away some picks from the last couple of seasons?

[the_idle_threat]

Mike Rucker(CAR) is older, but he's still affective and would be a good player for a good price. He's still considering retirement, but if he comes back and is willing to go to a contender I think he'd be a good fit. He fits under the mold of a "Packer Person."

Ebenezer Ekuban(DEN) is another older guy that I'd like. He didn't play this season due to a torn ACL, but he's a proven guy that can get to the QB.

Bobby McCray(JAX) Didn't have a great year, but in 2006 he played great having 10 sacks. Not that it's matters, but it was Bobby that caused sacked and caused the Roethlisberger fumble at the end of the JAX/PIT Wild Card game this year. I'd actually really like TT to sign this guy. Big guy, 6'6, 260 pounds.

Marques Douglas(SF) wouldn't be a bad pickup. Doesn't get to the QB like other guys, but he's a great tackler.

Justin Smith(CIN) would be a nice pickup. Two white guys with similar facial hair would be a nice touch for our DL. Had a great 2006, not as great in 2007, but I'd still love him as a Packer.

As down as everybody is on Jenkins given the circumstances, I think he's better than all of these guys. I agree with Harv that he was nicked up and had a down year. Everyone who says he can't bring any pass rush is forgetting how good he was in previous seasons and in this preseason this year. Durability is a concern, though, and I do agree that more depth is needed so that both he and Kampy can rotate out more often for a breather.

[Carolina_Packer]

If you let Corey Williams walk, you could sign Albert Haynesworth. Can you imagine him and Ryan Pickett together? Then when Pickett got too old you'd have Jolly. Still, it would make for a strong rotation. OK, why don't we just sign Jared Allen and Albert Haynesworth and let Williams walk. Problem solved! Was that so hard?

[LL2]

I'd love to see Allen in GB, but I agree it's not likely to happen. TT does need to be more agressive this offseason. Building up the defense and OL needs to be a priority.

I wonder if Favre is debating whether or not to come back based on what TT does this offseason. Last year he was pissed TT didn't get Moss or any weapons, but bought into the program. He might be thinking that the team is close to winning it all, but we still need a few playmakers.

[mmmdk]

The Giants have showed us how two All Pro DE's can change games. They dominated against Dallas and MM decided to Max protect to help out against them and whoever Colledge had to block

Spot on! I just do not agree with max protection especially when you have QBs (Favre/Rodgers) with quick releases plus speedy receivers. Try beat the pass rush with quick slants, TEs over the middle and what not. Max protection sucks and is a losers game.

[Carolina_Packer]

Sometimes you can fix things through the continued development of the players you already have, which is obviously what happened between last offseason and the 2007 season where we only acquired Frank Walker in free agency. That said, some fire under their asses with competition would be nice. I don't know who to go get. We can certainly do better than Adrian Klemm, but don't have to break the bank either. If Colledge is playing out of position, then sit his bottom down and let him play behind Cliff or Tausch until they hang it up or get too expensive. The guard situation has to be addressed once and for all.

Favre has weapons and we have a running back. We need a line that can consistently produce the type of performances like you saw from Ryan Grant against Seattle. I'm not saying he'll always get that much yardage, but he had space and was running down hill. We gotta get there. You saw what the lack of committment to the run was like on Sunday night. It cost the game and gassed our defense. Fix the O-line TT and MM.

[mmmdk]

Sometimes you can fix things through the continued development of the players you already have, which is obviously what happened between last offseason and the 2007 season where we only acquired Frank Walker in free agency. That said, some fire under their asses with competition would be nice. I don't know who to go get. We can certainly do better than Adrian Klemm, but don't have to break the bank either. If Colledge is playing out of position, then sit his bottom down and let him play behind Cliff or Tausch until they hang it up or get too expensive. The guard situation has to be addressed once and for all.

Favre has weapons and we have a running back. We need a line that can consistently produce the type of performances like you saw from Ryan Grant against Seattle. I'm not saying he'll always get that much yardage, but he had space and was running down hill. We gotta get there. You saw what the lack of committment to the run was like on Sunday night. It cost the game and gassed our defense. Fix the O-line TT and MM.

Another spot on!