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    By Pete Dougherty
    pdougher@greenbaypressgazette.com

    Ryan Grant was one of the best bargains in the NFL this season.


    The Green Bay Packers’ halfback, picked up just before the start of the regular season in a trade for a sixth-round draft pick, gained 1,189 yards and averaged 5.4 yards per carry in the final 12 games of the season (playoffs included), and he did it while making the minimum salary for a first-year player of $310,000.

    His rights belong to the Packers for two more years before he’ll become a restricted free agent, but the Packers might consider rewarding him sooner for outperforming his contract and becoming their primary halfback, perhaps this offseason or sometime during the 2008 season.

    The NFL’s salary landscape has changed in the last couple of years, and teams, including the Packers, have taken to extending core players’ contracts and giving them raises even when the player has multiple years left on his deal. Grant appears to be a good candidate for such a move, though his agent, Alan Herman, said he hasn’t yet talked to the team about it.

    “I’ll discuss it with Ryan,” Herman said. “A player that’s accomplished what he has, I don’t think there’s any secrets what he’s brought to the Packers this year. It’s clear around the league (for) anyone who’s astute in terms of football that it wasn’t a fly-by-night type of thing. He changed their offense and enabled them to have a running game. Since he’s an exclusive-rights free agent, it’s up to the Packers to decide how they want to approach the situation. You have leverage situations in this business, and right now Ryan’s under contract. We’ll sit back and see what position the Packers take.”

    In the past couple years, General Manager Ted Thompson and vice president of player finance Andrew Brandt have upgraded contracts of a few players who outperformed their deals but had multiple seasons remaining on their contracts. Most notably, they signed cornerback Al Harris and receiver Donald Driver to contract extensions to modest raises last offseason, and added weekly roster bonuses to tackle Mark Tauscher’s deal in September.

    Thompson wouldn’t address Grant’s contractual status in particular, but he would not rule out signing an exclusive-rights players to long-term deal in general.

    “We look at every situation,” Thompson said. “We’re always focused on the immediate, how to be good today, but we’re always looking at stability down the road. We’ve spent a lot of effort and time addressing some of the fellas that are a little bit more veteran in terms of doing contract extensions, but as we grow as a team and these young guys move through their initial contracts, we’ll address those as we go along, sure.”

    The urgency for Grant to sign a long-term deal and gain financial security probably is greater than for most first-year players, because he’s been out of college for three years and is 25. Grant signed with the New York Giants as an undrafted rookie in 2005 and spent the season on their practice squad, so he did not gain an accrued season toward free agency. In the following offseason, he suffered a severe cut on his hand and arm that landed him on the nonfootball injury list for all of 2006, which again prevented him from gaining an accrued season. Thus, he remained a first-year player — but not a rookie — when the Packers traded for him at the end of training camp, and made the first-year minimum salary of $310,000.

    If the Packers want, they can tender him a one-year contract for 2008 at the second-year minimum of $370,000. His only options would be to sign it, or withhold his services in hopes the Packers made a better offer. And he’ll be in the same position in 2009, when the minimum for a player entering his third season will be $460,000.

    But Grant was productive enough to perhaps warrant a long-term deal soon. Over the last 10 games of the regular season, he was the NFL’s second-leading rusher, behind only San Diego’s LaDainian Tomlinson.

    The difficulty is determining Grant’s value relative to his lack of contractual leverage.

    For comparison, Pittsburgh halfback Willie Parker was in a somewhat similar situation in 2006. Parker, like Grant, was undrafted out of college, but unlike Grant, he played in enough games as a rookie in 2004 to gain an accrued season. In 2005, he became the Steelers’ primary halfback, gained 1,202 yards in 15 regular-season games, and had a 75-yard touchdown run in Pittsburgh’s win over Seattle in the Super Bowl.

    He remained an exclusive-rights free agent going into 2006, though he had two accrued seasons instead of Grant’s one. That offseason, the Steelers signed Parker to a four-year deal worth $13.6 million, including a signing bonus of $3.75 million.

    However, salaries have gone up considerably even in the two years since then, so it probably would take a far bigger bonus than that to convince Grant to sign a long-term deal.

    “We’ll see what happens,” Herman said. “We’ll see if the organization is aggressive and wants to do the right thing, then you certainly reward a player and try to lock him up for the future. If they’re going to entertain that thought process, we’d be more than happy to listen. Do you hope for something like that? Sure, every player would.

    “The contribution he made this year and the way it appears he can continue to help this team, you’d hope the club would recognize that and you see what position they take. Are they going to move forward and say, ‘Hey, he’s our guy for the next five years, and let’s get something done?’ That would be a wonderful thing.

    “The key point is Ryan has been out of college for three years. He’s been on the practice squad, obviously he sustained the injury, those things have impacted on what he can earn. For a minimum-wage player, to say he outperformed the contract is an understatement.”

  • #2
    It's a touchy situation. For one, I have to see more evidence that Ryan truly is a top back. It's tough because we own his next two seasons when he'll be 25 and 26, a running back's prime years, and all smart RBs have an urge to cash in while they have value.

    I say, sign him to the minimum, and if 8 games into next season he has around 550 yards, sign him long term. He'll work his ass off to earn the contract, and seems to have a work ethic and pride similar to Kampman and Driver that won't let him slouch off even after getting big money. He's always wanted to be a great running back, and that motivation is invaluable in a player (see Cletidus Hunt).

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    • #3
      They can low ball him with a minimum wage deal.

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      • #4
        I see no reason to make him play for the minimum considering he is without question your starting RB. Not saying he should make what the top backs make because he hasn't played a full season yet. The 2 sides should be able to come to a fair accomodation.
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • #5
          If he would've been able to prove himself over the span of sixteen games (or 18 technically), and would've put up the numbers he put up ALL year long, he would've been neck and neck with LT for the rushing title. If that would've happened, I say you reward him with a nice deal, because you know what you've got. But, he only did well for just over a half of a season, and in the biggest game of the season, he underperformed, so, I think you have to let him continue playing at his salary, and if he has a great year this year, you reward him at the end of the year. If he is outstanding through the first 10 games, and is near the league lead in ypg, maybe give him a contract even before the season is over, but I think he will be hungrier in postseason to prove himself if you wait until the end of next season. What's he gonna do, sit out? He only had a half of a season of success. The league will now pay attention to him, and coaches will make their adjustments. How good will he be when defenses key on him? Don't pay him until you have that answer.
          "...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre

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          • #6
            I suspect Grant is going to get paid pretty well. Perhaps in the top 1/2 to 1/3 of the starters in the league.

            He didn't have a good game against the Giants, but that can't all be on him. They didn't feed him the ball much. When they did, there weren't any holes. But on one play there was a tiny little crease for a split second on the left side of the line, and sure enough he hit it quick and busted one for 10.

            I've seen more than enough. I also think Ted and McCarthy have more than enough film on him at this point. He's the real deal, and I'm pretty sure Grant and his agent know it. Low balling doesn't look like a viable option to me.

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            • #7
              13.6 million, including a signing bonus of $3.75 million.

              I would say they try to get him to agree to something a little less than this.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                I suspect Grant is going to get paid pretty well. Perhaps in the top 1/2 to 1/3 of the starters in the league.

                He didn't have a good game against the Giants, but that can't all be on him. They didn't feed him the ball much. When they did, there weren't any holes. But on one play there was a tiny little crease for a split second on the left side of the line, and sure enough he hit it quick and busted one for 10.

                I've seen more than enough. I also think Ted and McCarthy have more than enough film on him at this point. He's the real deal, and I'm pretty sure Grant and his agent know it. Low balling doesn't look like a viable option to me.
                They've also seen his work ethic every day in practice and in the weight room, his demeanor, character and consistency on the field. He will never again be able to be signed to a long-term deal as cheaply as he can be this offseason.

                It's not difficult to project this guy's future. He's as consistent and level-headed as they come.

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                • #9
                  Good kid but I need to see more than 12 games worth
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                  • #10
                    "However, salaries have gone up considerably even in the two years since then, so it probably would take a far bigger bonus than that to convince Grant to sign a long-term deal."

                    That is some speculation right there. Writer should take a look at the Ikegwuonu story. Taking 4 mil guaranteed up versus playing two years on a week-to-week pay check is definitely a smart career move. Even if you have to sacrifice a bigger potential pay-day for a year or two.

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                    • #11
                      I think they should give him a 1 yr deal worth close to 1 mil to reward him for this season, and then if towards the end of next season he's still producing at a high level give him a nice long term deal. If they decide to give him a long term deal now I wouldn't have a problem with it. Rookie's out of college get big deals before they play their first NFL game. Brandon Jackson is making more than Grant and he didn't perform as well.

                      GB still needs to look for a big power type back like the Giants Jacobs.

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                      • #12
                        Sign him long term right now. Sure we only saw 12 games, but he was also running behind one of the worst run blocking lines in the league. Imagine what he could do if actually had a line like the Vikings or another team, he wouldn't be stopped.

                        Sign him now before the price just gets higher and higher. Believe the guy is good, the longer you wait is just the money you will have to pay him.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by b bulldog
                          Good kid but I need to see more than 12 games worth
                          I would generally agree. He's a great runner...with vision, power and speed. He is below average as a receiver and blocker though.

                          I'd offer a modest 4 year deal paying roughly $2M per year with a $2M bonus...and make the 4th year voidable based on reasonable performance goals as a juicy carrot to keep Grant motivated.
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                          • #14
                            He's got next year and the year after before he's even restricted and if he were restricted, we'd still have the leverage of tenders.


                            A 4 year deal is basically only adding on a year to what we already own him for. It would amount to a big gift, really. I could see doing something after next year, but even then it would have to be somewhat discounted.


                            Right now, I'd offer him 1 year $750,000 just because he's worth so much more than $275,000 and it would allow him to live more like an NFL player for this year.

                            After next year, I'd consider a 5 year deal to lock him up through his prime.
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                            • #15
                              Assuming there really isn't any other decent RB out there, I'd pay him Willie Parker money. I'd rather they resign Grant than sign somebody like Shaun Alexander.

                              I think he's shown enough where (if he were a UFA) some team would throw $ at him. I like the idea mentioned earlier of locking him up with about a 3 year deal (maybe 4 with the last voidable).

                              I also think the team needs to improve its overall talent at RB and OL. BJack hasn't shown enough. Wynn showed little. Herron? Yikes.

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