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Originally posted by GBRulz
Yes, it's been quite some time since I've seen a chick on chick scene; maybe that explains the moodiness lately
TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWERComment
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On screen passes the runner has to give the linemen time and space to make the block. If they run up the backs of their blockers you get exactly what you got on that play. Successful screens require timing between the back and the linemen. It often requires patience by the back.
That one was mostly Jackson's fault.Comment
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You're kidding right? I can send you the tape if you dont' have it. That was completely and totally on Spitz, Wells, & Colledge, mostly spitz though. 1 guy, and he totally ate spitz up. As a former OL guy, the #1 thing you do on screens no matter what is cut the SHIT out of anyone coming in your direction unless you already have him tied up, which Spitz didn't. He blew it. Should Jackson have stopped and let him go by? Maybe, but he caught the ball and turned right into the tackle, and had little chance.Originally posted by BF4MVP
People are so quick to blame everything on Brandon Jackson...how bout you watch the facts before you blame the kid."I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny MurraughComment
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I think there is enough blame to go around on that play.My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?Comment
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ND's 100% right. You guys need to listen to the 'ol lineman. But some of you guys sound like lineman the way you blame the back for fucking up the play. Jackson had no cards to play, if he cut back, he ran right into Pearce. He took it wide, which was all he could do. Pearce fought thru Spitz's phantom block and made the tackle on Jackson.Originally posted by ND72
All you can "blame" Jackson for is not being Barry Sanders or Emmitt Smith. I'm sure those two guys would've pulled something out of their asses and made somthing out of it, but Jackson did what he could.
Spitz HAD to find a way to slow Pearce. And he did zilch. I've now watched the play several times. At least Colledge did keep his head on a swivel and check that Jackson was clear. When Daryn saw the play was in trouble, he tried to come back and help. Unfortunately, Spitz's block was so bad, there was nothing 73 could do. Wellsy kept heading downfield, but he had to assume somebody was gonna get the play blocked up.
This play is a microcosm of our poor guard play. Both of our kiddie guards are woefully inconsistent and they suck in space.
This play also shows the agony of coaching. It was a perfect call for that down and distance. With even below average execution, that screen gets us to first and goal. But the perfect play goes nowhere with horrible blocking by a mediocre player.Comment
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I agree that Spitz didn't lock on and hold his block, and I also agree that Jackson didn't know where to run the football after he caught it. He just sort of stood behind the line. The other thing, he didn't set up with enough depth behind his offensive line, he was too close to them when he caught the ball.Originally posted by Patler
the bottom line why our screen pass has been terrible all year it is because of inexperience both at running back, and on the offensive line. The Packers could have had Grant back there and I am sure not a whole else would have changed. The Packers are simply not a good screen team because the people count on to run it are too green to perform it well. There is no Vince Workman, Edgar Bennett, Doresy Levens, or Ahman Greens on this roster. Just young inexperienced running backs.Comment
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And interior OL. The only guy with any smudgeon of experience is Wells. That's a far cry from having Flanagan, Rivera, Wahle, and Green operating a screen.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
The fact our guys looked that lost on a screen play after 2 full seasons of play gives me little confidence these guys are suddenly going to have the light come on this offseason.
Without a major upgrade on the interior OL in the way of experience (meaning free agency, not draft) this team will not have any real aspriations to a title in 2008.My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?Comment
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I buy the experience idea. Our roster is top heavy with kids. Good kids, but some of 'em will probably never help us. We could use some old hands who know how to execute some of the more sophisticated situations.
That same screen with Flanagan, Rivera, Wahle, and Tony Fisher has Fish scoring standing up. Our younguns get a little jumpy on some plays. They haven't learned the finess plays, yet.
Look at the Pats. They have great youth, but they also keep Troy Brown, Rodney Harrison, and Junior Seau around to provide experience and show the youngbloods the way.
We could use a Kevin Faulk type back for our 3rd and long problemsComment
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That's what Noah Heron was for.Originally posted by KYPack
In all honesty, some backs have a natural "feel" for those situations. Tony Fisher did. Heron seems to a little bit. Jackson was reputed to have very good skills as a receiver. If he can become a solid blocker, he could be a nice 3rd down back.Comment
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Originally posted by Bretsky
Poppinga has played ok both times that the team has played in "extreme" weather conditions--in Chicago and vs. the Jinz. He seems to be able to handle weather better than most.When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.Comment
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Just because he didn't "knock him on his ass" doesn't mean he didn't have him blocked..I saw the play, Spitz had Pierce blocked. Jackson should know not to run right where Pierce was being blocked..Like I said, Grant would have scored on that play.Comment
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There is plenty of blame to go around on that play, but the fact remains that Spitz was too slow to get a good angle on Pierce. My initial thought on gameday was "I really wish Coston was playing" b/c there is no doubt in my mind that he makes that block. Wells coulda helped and Jackson coulda done something, but Spitz missed the bock because he was too slow to square his man up.Comment
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OK, we need about six beers and some shots, 'cause this is a barroom football argument.Originally posted by BF4MVP
Have you guys watched this play or are you all just talkin' shit?
1stly, this was a quick screen. Two big lineman were pouring in on Brett & he had to get off a quick pass right now. Which the HOFer did, right to Jackson. Jackson wasn't "sorta standing around", Nutz. He was running the quick screen like he should. If ya wanna bitch at Jackson, he briefly bobbled the toss and tried to take off up field.
Spitz NEVER blocked Pierce. He tried to engage him, but failed. Pierce fought thru Spitz's ghost block and grabbed hold of Jackson right from the jump. Jackson couldn't "cut back off Spitz's block" cause there was no block. Pierce at one point had 'em both and controlled the whole play. Which was now totally blown up.
Spitz earned around 90% of the blame for missing his block and I guess Jackson gets the rest for being tackled.Comment
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When is Mad getting you guys a telestrator?Comment
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