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  • #31
    Here's what I picture (best case)


    Harrell takes this off season and works his butt off. All reports on Harrell is that he's willing to work very hard. With this season and off season under his belt, Harrell takes a huge step (similar to Jolly if not bigger)

    Jolly has a shoulder injury, but he can still build up his legs and core. He can also keep his conditioning with sprints, running and whatever the hell else they do. By the time the season rolls around, he should have a stronger anchor and his shoulder should be rounding into shape.

    Pickett is one of the rare fat guys who can stay healthy in the NFL. He's missed what? One game in 5 or 6 years? That's impressive. The more I see him, the more I think he can be here even after his contract as a situational run stopper but right now he's still very good all around. He is what he is.

    Williams is the wild card. I really want him back (even if it's just for one more year. He's strictly a situational pass rusher, but he gets to come in after Pickett, Jolly and Harrell have been leaning on the interior line all game and reak havok). It's a luxury many teams do not have, but for a 1 year, 6 mil deal, we could have that luxury

    Whoever we draft or develop will spend their time in the weight room getting stronger and ready for Williams departure.



    I think this group of 4 DT's can be the best in the game. Is Pickett as good as the best of the best? Nope. Will Harrell and Jolly be? Probably not. Is Williams? Nope. However, they're all capable starters and they'll rotate in and out, feeding off each other and making the whole line stronger. I think if this team is going to take another step forward, they need to get stronger up front. I don't think they'll get stronger if they let Williams go. Letting him go would be one injury away from having only two good ones and junk backups (and backups play a lot of snaps at that position)
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    • #32
      99 has been very good??? Pretty damn good at disappearing when he is needed to generate a passrush
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      • #33
        Originally posted by b bulldog
        99 has been very good??? Pretty damn good at disappearing when he is needed to generate a passrush
        I'm with bulldog on this one. I would rather see Harrel cut his teeth than toss a bunch of money at CW who is just not going to be the constant presence you'd be paying for should you splurge to retain him.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by JustinHarrell
          Pickett is one of the rare fat guys who can stay healthy in the NFL.
          That clinches it, Pickett will be on the cover of Madden 08', nice job JH.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by twoseven
            Originally posted by JustinHarrell
            Pickett is one of the rare fat guys who can stay healthy in the NFL.
            That clinches it, Pickett will be on the cover of Maddeon 08', nice job JH.
            "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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            • #36
              Originally posted by KYPack
              Originally posted by Patler
              Originally posted by Bretsky
              Is Williams better than Jenkins ???

              With the cap soon to be at 120 million, I have no problem with Williams at 3-4 million per year of it.
              3-4 mill a year won't be anywhere close to the money CW will command on the open market. He'll get 5-6 million a year with a signing bonus. Hence, he's priced out of our range.
              Probably so. I wasn't suggesting that it would be likely to get him for that.

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              • #37
                I hope he leaves and we get another DL to replace him.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by b bulldog
                  I hope he leaves and we get another DL to replace him.

                  As long as that DL is better than CW; that will be a heck of a lot easier said than done
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                  • #39
                    I don't think 99 is much above average.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by b bulldog
                      I don't think 99 is much above average.

                      You might be right; but teams lock up their own these days. I bet he'll be in the top 4 DT's available. And will TT spend the money and take a chance on one better

                      And even if he'd want to, would we land him ?
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by b bulldog
                        I don't think 99 is much above average.
                        Maybe so; but I have a hard time reconciling that with the fact that in each of the past 2 years he was #3 among all defensive tackles in sacks, and for the two years combined he is #1. I'm not sure how to evaluate that with respect to his "averageness".

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                        • #42
                          My thought here is very simple, when he asked to be the man when Jolly went down, he never really jumped out at you and our passrush as a whole fell apart.
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                          • #43
                            lOnce Jolly was injured, 99 pretty much stepped in for him the last 6 games and got the bulk of the snaps. In those last 6 games, 99 wouldn't be able to play fresh as he had in the past because of the DL rotation and his true toughness and ability to beat the OL on a down to down basis could be looked at. His stats for the last 6 regular season games and for the 2 playoff games were 14 tackles and 1 sack. IMO, when he was needed to stand tall and be a force, those stats tell me he definitely came up short and he shouldn't be rewarded with a one year deal worth 6.5 million. Imo, when he is playing on a different team next year, he'll be a 3-5 sack DT.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Bretsky
                              Originally posted by b bulldog
                              I don't think 99 is much above average.

                              You might be right; but teams lock up their own these days. I bet he'll be in the top 4 DT's available. And will TT spend the money and take a chance on one better

                              And even if he'd want to, would we land him ?
                              Your presumption taht the only way to get better is to spend more money on each position is just out of hand, Bretsky. There are better ways than blowing wads of cash (like being better at evaluating talent and having an approach that gives more oppertunities to succeed than the next guy),
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by b bulldog
                                lOnce Jolly was injured, 99 pretty much stepped in for him the last 6 games and got the bulk of the snaps. In those last 6 games, 99 wouldn't be able to play fresh as he had in the past because of the DL rotation and his true toughness and ability to beat the OL on a down to down basis could be looked at. His stats for the last 6 regular season games and for the 2 playoff games were 14 tackles and 1 sack. IMO, when he was needed to stand tall and be a force, those stats tell me he definitely came up short and he shouldn't be rewarded with a one year deal worth 6.5 million. Imo, when he is playing on a different team next year, he'll be a 3-5 sack DT.
                                Good point. I'll support and trust whatever TT decides until proven otherwise. He's had a very good record so far.
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