Spygate will make the Pats lose a trophy...

[twoseven]

So the tapes destroyed by Goodell included the new alleged in question from 2002?

I apologize if I'm lost completely, but reading that article above, all I got from it was that the same thing may have happened, someone made a call. Has there actually been a tape recovered from the Pats possesion that they are talkng about, the eve before SB 36, that has the Rams walkthrough on it? If so, I sincerely apologize for lengthening this discussion. If not, it's not good enough for me to just claim something happened, there still should be physical evidence.

On a side note, I don't like the Pats or Bellicheck. But, I don't like guilty judgements handed down without proof either.

[MJZiggy]

I would question this statement because it NEVER surfaced 5 months ago when they would have been nailed for the same thing.

Not would have been nailed. People believe it because they WERE nailed. There are quite a few possible reasons why it didn't come out then, but just because it didn't doesn't mean they shouldn't investigate the allegations. Maybe the dudes just finally got someone in the media to listen to their stories, who knows, but if one of these people does hand over tapes that they imply they have, it will be very interesting. And even given the timing of the story, it still remains newsworthy.

[packinpatland]

The guy in Hawaii says his family still lives in NE...............Belicheat has connections, I'm sure of it.

[Jimx29]

I wonder if they will overlook the murder rap I was up on back in 2002. Granted i've killed again since, but they just caught me this year after my 10th kill

[packinpatland]

I wonder if they will overlook the murder rap I was up on back in 2002. Granted i've killed again since, but they just caught me this year after my 10th kill

Sick, twisted,............but relevant..........and funny.

[MJZiggy]

On a side note, I don't like the Pats or Bellicheck. But, I don't like guilty judgements handed down without proof either.

For the record, I don't like them either, and much as I think that it's likely true, I'm not making a judgment here. All I'm saying is that I don't think you should just dismiss it and ignore what these people are saying just because they didn't release the tapes they say they have in August.

I just want to see it investigated to FIND OUT if there's validity to the assertions that these people are making. Dude in Hawaii said that if the League office asked for the tapes, he would produce them, so I'm kind of curious to see what happens next. Do they request the evidence or try and get rid of the whole thing again. It will be interesting to watch.

And don't worry about lengthening discussions; it's the offseason.

[packinpatland]

"And don't worry about lengthening discussions; it's the offseason. "
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It this the truth or what?

[Charles Woodson]

See i dont really care that much because it doesnt really affect the packers...

But i would still love to see the evil empire fall.

I feel like Godell is hiding something, i mean why would you destroy the tape and the notes unless there was something to hide on it. The fact that they have been cheating for 6 years is believable.

[packinpatland]

VERY believable.

[Scott Campbell]

Just out of curiosity, why do you dislike the Bears.......

Perhaps because he is not a heathen.

[Scott Campbell]

I wonder if they will overlook the murder rap I was up on back in 2002. Granted i've killed again since, but they just caught me this year after my 10th kill

Were they Bear fans?

[packinpatland]

Just out of curiosity, why do you dislike the Bears.......

Perhaps because he is not a heathen.

Thanks for reminding me.........Bresky, you didn't answer my question!

[MJZiggy]

Living here, in NE, does have some advantages (besides incredible folliage, wonderful beaches, maple syrup, lobster, clam 'chowda'..........sorry, I digress),

By the way, I'm coming to visit...Is spring or summer better for you...?

[twoseven]

Ok, so I just read about this Walsh guy, and he sounds like his gums never stop flapping but he isn't actually saying anything. He may or may not know something, he may or he may not have proof, he may or he may not provide it. Huh? When asked about dropping the dime about what he knows to ESPN, he would only do so if ESPN promises to cover his legal expenses since he expects the Pats will take action. He's also not sure if he can say anything because of privacy acts? He's not sure if doing the right thing is what he'd do?

From the article, the tapes Goodell received didn't extend earlier than 2006, so this new alleged recording from 2002, if it even exists, was NOT destroyed.

About a half hour ago on ESPN this new alleged taping of the SB 36 walkthrough of the Rams by NE has been denied as completely false by the Pats as never having happened.

Walsh claims to have the goods, he needs to put up or shut up. Claiming he knows things and has physical proof but cannot reveal any of it because of (fill in the blank) is pure bullshit. Maybe Specter can put as much pressure on Walsh as he is threatening to do to Goodell.

[packinpatland]

"About a half hour ago on ESPN this new alleged taping of the SB 36 walkthrough of the Rams by NE has been denied as completely false by the Pats as never having happened."

What did you expect them to say?