Williams Tagged

[Deputy Nutz]

99 is irrate. Who gives a shit what team you play for. That is secondary and a FAR FAR FAR secondary to the legit long term security of your family and if you don't care about 6 or 12 up front and 25 likely to be earned or 6 likely to be earned than you are crazy. Injuries are a REAL fear in the NFL.

that 6.5 million is guaranteed. Everyone has to pay taxes in the NFL, most have to pay state income tax unless you live in AZ, TX, FL and maybe a few more, but anways, he gets hurt and can't play football guess what, contracts in the NFL are not guaranteed anyways. Sure he might stand to make 10 to 12 million in guarantees if he was signed as free agent, but I would guess more like 8 million. So in reality he would only lose out on 2 million maybe a little more. If he is still irate tell him to talk to Gene Upshaw.

I think the franchise tag is bogus anyways, it is really unfair to players now with so much of their contracts coming in the way of signing bonuses and guaranteed bonuses. before the influx of up front money the franchise tag wasn't a big deal, but now they miss out on a serious part, the most important part of the contract. Season salary is something you get cut over not something to be overjoyed about.

[twoseven]

Is it fair that an OK DT like Williams was going to get greatly overpaid by somebody just because of a few circumstances that didn't have as much to do with his production as it did with his availibility as the best of the rest versus all the other stud DLs getting tagged?

He gets a guaranteed pay raise of almost 750%. If he's mad tell him to call Hayensworth, Allen, and Suggs and see what they say. Tell him to cry to Pickett who got paid 2.5 mil last year and is easliy well ahead of CW in production. Regardless, he has to play hard to earn more money now. Prove he's not another Hunt and someone WILL pay him next year, you know TT won't keep him hanging. The last thing he can afford to do is be pissed about anything and let his production slip. He'll guarantee himself a severe salary drop in 09' if he does.

For all we know, TT offered him 3-4 or even 4-5 mil a year for a longer term which we can guess his agent would balk at, so if he gets hurt this year it's hardly fair to point fingers at upper management for not taking care of CW and his family. He is NOT one of the best DT in the game, he does NOT deserve to be paid like one just yet. IMO, reality is that 3 million a year is still more than he deserves for what he actually does on the field right now, so to me he just got a guranteed two years at 3.125 mil with a chance to prove to the entire NFL he is worth more.

[RashanGary]

I misspoke.

Corey Williams is VERY disappointed. The UFA market is a joke in what players get paid. Williams would have gotten far more.

[The Leaper]

99 is irrate. Who gives a shit what team you play for.

You are crazy.

Sure, money is important...but just about all of these guys play to WIN. Williams will be happier making $6M under the tag in Green Bay next year and likely being part of a playoff team with potential title hopes than he would be making $20M+ guaranteed playing for the Dolphins and going 4-12.

While injury is a concern, it is rather unlikely that Williams would sustain an injury that would entirely wipe out his future earning potential...and if he has an agent worth a damn, he will have an insurance policy on himself this season just in case that were to happen.

Sitting here and telling us that a $6M salary isn't enough to secure your family for a long time is ridiculous. I could take $2M right now and live with my family comfortably for the rest of my life...living off the interest would still pull in $150-200k annually if invested properly, which would put you among the richest people on the face of the planet (percentage wise anyway) without having to lift a finger.

Williams is disappointed, but I highly doubt he is irrate. He knew full well this was a likely scenario.

[The Leaper]

Sure he might stand to make 10 to 12 million in guarantees if he was signed as free agent, but I would guess more like 8 million.

He'd make a lot more guaranteed money. He'd be worth at least $8-10M in bonus money over a 5-6 year deal...and if you signed a contract like that, the chances of getting cut in the first 2 years is almost nil due to the cap hit the team would have to take, so you can essentially consider the first 2 years of salary to be guaranteed as well...even though it technically is not.

He'd be looking at roughly twice the guaranteed money in free agency...and that is conservative. Being the top DT out there, the potential to garner even more guaranteed money certainly existed.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Has anyone heard anything on Moss getting tagged?

[RashanGary]

Has anyone heard anything on Moss getting tagged?

Good question, not yet

[packers11]

Has anyone heard anything on Moss getting tagged?

The deadline is today at 4pm est...

[Partial]

I misspoke.

Corey Williams is VERY disappointed. The UFA market is a joke in what players get paid. Williams would have gotten far more.

Did he tell you that personally or how do you know this?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

99 is irrate. Who gives a shit what team you play for. That is secondary and a FAR FAR FAR secondary to the legit long term security of your family and if you don't care about 6 or 12 up front and 25 likely to be earned or 6 likely to be earned than you are crazy. Injuries are a REAL fear in the NFL.

that 6.5 million is guaranteed. Everyone has to pay taxes in the NFL, most have to pay state income tax unless you live in AZ, TX, FL and maybe a few more, but anways, he gets hurt and can't play football guess what, contracts in the NFL are not guaranteed anyways. Sure he might stand to make 10 to 12 million in guarantees if he was signed as free agent, but I would guess more like 8 million. So in reality he would only lose out on 2 million maybe a little more. If he is still irate tell him to talk to Gene Upshaw.

I think the franchise tag is bogus anyways, it is really unfair to players now with so much of their contracts coming in the way of signing bonuses and guaranteed bonuses. before the influx of up front money the franchise tag wasn't a big deal, but now they miss out on a serious part, the most important part of the contract. Season salary is something you get cut over not something to be overjoyed about.

Hey, apparently the state of AZ owes me a ton of money as i've been paying state taxes since i've lived here.

Care to take up my case?

[woodbuck27]

Impressive move by Ted Thompson.

That gives him more options for our team that's better that just allowing him to slip away for zilch.

Nice move Ted. Your learning.

Bubba? Well his time went a few years ago. I really always felt that the long time it took to get him in TC two seasons ago damaged Bubba no matter what the reports were on him working out.

Bubba wasn't ever the most entusiastic acting fella but he could make the short Red Zone TD play moving horizontally if he couldn't extend the field.

He was also a dependable blocker.

Bye BUBBA FRANKS.

[b bulldog]

Moss didn't get tagged. Some reports having the Pats and Moss having a deal already done that will be announced soon.

[pbmax]

I am not in favor of this move at this price. That said, its just a one year deal, not a long termer with a big bonus and future cap hit.

The bigger danger is in his attitude in being tagged. Will he hold out. miss camp, develop a bad attitude toward the team?

A player who lost effectiveness as a full-time starter late in the year is not worth this price. But we have the cap space, T2 might just be renting him for one more year.

[KYPack]

Never thought in a million years that we would tag him.

TT showed me something. We had the room and we were the only team in the league that could sign the guy at that price.

If Harrell comes on strong, this could be a brilliant move for TT & the Pack.

[woodbuck27]

Moss didn't get tagged. Some reports having the Pats and Moss having a deal already done that will be announced soon.

I believe if they keep Randy Moss that's the smart move, but I saw reason to believe that isn't going to happen.

That's a good watch though.