Combine Buzz

[Lurker64]

We're going to take the BPA unless he's a QB, and even then I wouldn't be surprised. This is Ted we're talking about, remember?

[b bulldog]

I think OG is where they need to go and put DC in his best position which is tackle.

[Fritz]

"Friday's measurements"

You missed one, JH:

"Mike Hart, University of Michigan running back, surprised the scouts with his measurements. Most had him at 6 inches, but Hart measured a solid 8 inches."

Just don't miss a trick, these scouts. I think Hart's value just went...up.

[Fritz]

Look, it seems to me that the kind of offensive linemen required for the zone system are quicker and not as big as the traditional type. That means TT can find just what he needs in later rounds - he's not in the absolute dire spot he was when he took Colledge and Spitz in rounds two and three back in '06. I see TT doing the BPA, whether offensive line, d-line, QB, even wide receiver. Then he'll get his need stuff later. As much as I like the BPA idea, it's not absoulte. Like, what if you drafted a QB in round one - he's the BPA - and then in your next two rounds, the guy in front of you is the BPA - and he's a QB, too. Do you draft three rookie QB's? Prolly not.

[RashanGary]

Look, it seems to me that the kind of offensive linemen required for the zone system are quicker and not as big as the traditional type. That means TT can find just what he needs in later rounds - he's not in the absolute dire spot he was when he took Colledge and Spitz in rounds two and three back in '06. I see TT doing the BPA, whether offensive line, d-line, QB, even wide receiver. Then he'll get his need stuff later. As much as I like the BPA idea, it's not absoulte. Like, what if you drafted a QB in round one - he's the BPA - and then in your next two rounds, the guy in front of you is the BPA - and he's a QB, too. Do you draft three rookie QB's? Prolly not.

Right and Thompson has said that in the past. There are times where you don't keep picking the same position, but what he's saying is that he's not going to take a guy he shouldnt' take just because he needs them. Unless something unusual comes up Thompson says he will stick with the best guy.

[Lurker64]

Apparently Jake Long ran a glacial 5.17 today after being rumored to run a 4.8. That should drop him out of contention for 1st overall unless he rebounds on his Pro Day, I wonder how far he'll go. The conventional wisdom is that the Chiefs will take him if he's there, but I'm not sure.

[red]

Apparently Jake Long ran a glacial 5.17 today after being rumored to run a 4.8. That should drop him out of contention for 1st overall unless he rebounds on his Pro Day, I wonder how far he'll go. The conventional wisdom is that the Chiefs will take him if he's there, but I'm not sure.

see this is where the combine gets stupid

he's a OT, who cares how fast he can run? can he shut down the backside pass rusher? thats all that should matter. o-linemen and DT's shouldn't even run the 40

at no point will that OT ever have to sprint more then 10 yards or so in his career.

there was one guy that ran a 5.5 something, and they were saying he's done. he was like a OG or something. how does that matter? honestly

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Apparently Jake Long ran a glacial 5.17 today after being rumored to run a 4.8. That should drop him out of contention for 1st overall unless he rebounds on his Pro Day, I wonder how far he'll go. The conventional wisdom is that the Chiefs will take him if he's there, but I'm not sure.

He was probably still tired after putting up the wieghts 37 frikin times!

Pretty impressive for a guy that height and with a seriously long reach

[KYPack]

Apparently Jake Long ran a glacial 5.17 today after being rumored to run a 4.8. That should drop him out of contention for 1st overall unless he rebounds on his Pro Day, I wonder how far he'll go. The conventional wisdom is that the Chiefs will take him if he's there, but I'm not sure.

see this is where the combine gets stupid

he's a OT, who cares how fast he can run? can he shut down the backside pass rusher? thats all that should matter. o-linemen and DT's shouldn't even run the 40

at no point will that OT ever have to sprint more then 10 yards or so in his career.

there was one guy that ran a 5.5 something, and they were saying he's done. he was like a OG or something. how does that matter? honestly

You got it Red.

An OT? How good is his kick step?

If your tackles are running 40 yards, something is wrong with your O.

Why even run some of these tests for some of the positions?

You can see why guys skip this thing.

[KYPack]

Apparently Jake Long ran a glacial 5.17 today after being rumored to run a 4.8. That should drop him out of contention for 1st overall unless he rebounds on his Pro Day, I wonder how far he'll go. The conventional wisdom is that the Chiefs will take him if he's there, but I'm not sure.

Same thing happened to this kid.

Pitt offensive tackle Jeff Otah ran a poor time in the 40-yard dash.

One scout had Otah's time clocked at 5.55 seconds.

Otah is regarded as having first-round potential. But running too slow at the Combine could hurt him.

Hey, let's draft him in the 3rd round. Most starting NFL tackles couldn't run a 50 under 6 seconds.

[RashanGary]

+1 on the ridiculous notion that OT's need to run fast 40's.


Jeffrey Otah is intriguing acctually. Maybe one of these kickass OT's with slow 40 times can fall in our lap.

[twoseven]

see this is where the combine gets stupid

You say that like the 40 times and how they are intepreted are the only example of stupidity.

To me combine and stupidity have almost become synonymous in regards to how much they influence the rise and fall of the players in the draft.

[MJZiggy]

Apparently Jake Long ran a glacial 5.17 today after being rumored to run a 4.8. That should drop him out of contention for 1st overall unless he rebounds on his Pro Day, I wonder how far he'll go. The conventional wisdom is that the Chiefs will take him if he's there, but I'm not sure.

see this is where the combine gets stupid

he's a OT, who cares how fast he can run? can he shut down the backside pass rusher? thats all that should matter. o-linemen and DT's shouldn't even run the 40

at no point will that OT ever have to sprint more then 10 yards or so in his career.

there was one guy that ran a 5.5 something, and they were saying he's done. he was like a OG or something. how does that matter? honestly

You got it Red.

An OT? How good is his kick step?

If your tackles are running 40 yards, something is wrong with your O.

Why even run some of these tests for some of the positions?

You can see why guys skip this thing.

On the flipside of that one, I've seen Kampman run himself all over the field to chase down the play and make a tackle...don't know how fast he goes, but ya gotta love his motor.

[the_idle_threat]

Apparently Jake Long ran a glacial 5.17 today after being rumored to run a 4.8. That should drop him out of contention for 1st overall unless he rebounds on his Pro Day, I wonder how far he'll go. The conventional wisdom is that the Chiefs will take him if he's there, but I'm not sure.

see this is where the combine gets stupid

he's a OT, who cares how fast he can run? can he shut down the backside pass rusher? thats all that should matter. o-linemen and DT's shouldn't even run the 40

at no point will that OT ever have to sprint more then 10 yards or so in his career.

there was one guy that ran a 5.5 something, and they were saying he's done. he was like a OG or something. how does that matter? honestly

You got it Red.

An OT? How good is his kick step?

If your tackles are running 40 yards, something is wrong with your O.

Why even run some of these tests for some of the positions?

You can see why guys skip this thing.

Although I agree with both of you, red and KY, you gotta love the adjective "glacial."