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Originally posted by Bretsky
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Going into last year, I liked Holiday better than Martin. I'm not sure what the Packers plan to do with him, or how significant his injury was. -
To me it was a given that Morency was gone; kind of funny how that deal worked. We traded our junk in Gado for their junk in Morency
As for Cole, I'd be surprised if he didn't get offered some kind of tender. If nothing else he's a serviceable end of the bench player and protects us in case of injuries. Good worker...limited talent. He's a guy we'll always be looking to upgrade from.TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWERComment
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The reason you get rid of Ruvell is because you have someone better, not because you intend to someday find someone better.Originally posted by Bretsky
Ruvell is a guy you cut in August, not a guy you cut in February.</delurk>Comment
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You just described why you tender Colin Cole with somethingOriginally posted by Lurker64TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWERComment
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I never meant to say cut Ruvell right now. If nothing better comes along that that is all we have. I do expect him to get beat out in camp.
I expect that Thopson finds better at all four of the positions I listed and I don't think Ruvell is underutilized at all. He's tall. He has no explosion, no abilty to get separation deep or in short area. He has a big body with pretty good hands, that's it.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.Comment
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Realistically though, "we can let him walk if we find someone who plays his position better" can be said for any player on any roster in the league.
I personally hope we find someone better than everybody currently on our roster, but there's nobody on this team who's so embarrassingly bad that I'm looking forward to his ouster.</delurk>Comment
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I agree with Bretsky. Martin has made some huge drops in crucial games. He is on the fence about staying with the team, IMO.Originally posted by BretskyComment
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Morency has really done nothing since he's been here and when he is in games I have never been impressed.
Package all three of them for some trade.....maybe Huff?
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Martin and Walker are signed, right? And only Cole and Morency are up for RFA?
I say sign Cole for the minimum available, he is worth that. Let Morency walk. Draft a RB who can compete with the guys we have. If Cole gets beat out in camp, so be it, but he is a decent end of the depth chart guy."My problems with him are his vision and tendency to dance instead of pounding a hole." - Harvey WallbangersComment
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Cole went undrafted, so if you tender him at the lowest amount, I don't believe we receive any compensation if he signs with another team. I suppose that's an option, but it's a tricky situation. If you tender him at the lowest, you've got a chance at losing him and getting nothing, which makes tendering him kind of an odd choice.Originally posted by superfan
Not tendering him and offering him a contract seems a wiser choice than tendering him, but I'm not sure about it.
If there was the interest in bringing back Morencey, tendering him at the lowest would make a lot of sense since he was a third round pick, since I'd give up Morencey for a third round pick in an instant.</delurk>Comment
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Any roster? I'd be surprised if at least three of them weren't on an NFL roster next year. Cole has value as a backup. Walker is only 26 years old. He'll sign on elsewhere to be a 5th corner. Martin will be on a roster. Even Morency will likely get signed by another team, but might end up getting cut. It doesn't hurt to tender these guys. It isn't going to cost anything to cut them later.Originally posted by JustinHarrell"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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I think the point is that it won't cost them anything to cut them later. It doesn't hurt to have them on the 80 man roster--especially Cole. If you get to training camp and it doesn't look like they'll make the squad, then cut them--like Thompson did with Manuel and some other veterans.Originally posted by Lurker64"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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Ruvell does what he is asked. He's a #5 WR. When he's thrown the ball he catches it (with the exception of that drop against the Giants.) He's not fast, but he's several inches taller than any WR on our roster. He could play #3 WR on some NFL teams out there. He's a team-first guy with a good attitude. Our WR were good last year, don't fix what's not broken."I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael FinleyComment
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If Ruvell is your 3rd receiver you are a terrible team.Originally posted by BallHawk
He is just a guy. You could sub in Holliday and we'd have the exact same discussion next year.
Ruvell should go as we could take a younger player with more potential and hopefully get lucky.Comment
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In the meantime, Thompson has until today to determine what tender, if any, to offer his two restricted free agents to retain the rights to match any offer they sign or receive compensation: defensive tackle Colin Cole, whose agent is Neil Cornrich of NC Sports, and running back Vernand Morency, whose agent is Drew Rosenhaus.
An NFL source said the Packers will place the second-round tender of $1.47 million on Cole, meaning they'll get a second-round pick if another team signs him and they don't match. The best guess is the Packers will put the low tender of $927,000 on Morency, which means they'll get a pick in the round Morency was drafted (third) if another team signs him and they don't match.Thanks Ted!Comment
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