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  • #46
    Taylor for a 4th round pick is a no-brainer IMO...just as Moss for a 4th last year was a no-brainer. Sure, he's older...but he has 1-2 more solid seasons left in him IMO. Everyone said Strahan was washed up too...whoopsies.

    Taylor for a 3rd...it becomes a little less yummy, but I think I'd still hit it.

    I wouldn't give up a first day pick for Taylor though.
    My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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    • #47
      Originally posted by The Leaper
      Taylor for a 4th round pick is a no-brainer IMO...just as Moss for a 4th last year was a no-brainer. Sure, he's older...but he has 1-2 more solid seasons left in him IMO. Everyone said Strahan was washed up too...whoopsies.

      Taylor for a 3rd...it becomes a little less yummy, but I think I'd still hit it.

      I wouldn't give up a first day pick for Taylor though.

      I agreed with your thinking. He has a couple of good years left and is a quality player.

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      • #48
        Is he really going to put this team over the top next year?

        I might - might - risk a fourth rounder for him, and a two year, front-loaded deal. And that's if I'm feeling crazy.
        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

        KYPack

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        • #49
          Are you serious Fritz? This guy was defensive player of the year two years ago. He is a heck of a player on a bad team. Pair him with Kampman and two big fatties up the gut and he gets 12-15 sacks.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Partial
            Are you serious Fritz? This guy was defensive player of the year two years ago.
            Bold=emphasis.
            "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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            • #51
              Originally posted by BallHawk
              Originally posted by Partial
              Are you serious Fritz? This guy was defensive player of the year two years ago.
              Bold=emphasis.
              OK, but if he was named that about 400 days ago, do you think he went from the best defensive player in the NFL to terrible that quick? At the very least, he'd be solid. I am all for getting him.

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              • #52
                Taylor for a 4?

                That's an OK deal. He's got at least a year, year and a half left. If TT would do that one, he'll wait until the draft. It's still fan/stupid money time. If Tuna can't move Taylor, he will be open to a draft day deal.

                A 2 & a four?

                No way.

                That's SFran deal.

                This guy can play and he knows how to be a RDE in that Bates D.

                Taylor playing the wide spot makes our D tough on all 3 bdowns.

                I doubt we will get it, but if it comes up, pull the trigger Mr. Thompson.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Partial
                  Originally posted by BallHawk
                  Originally posted by Partial
                  Are you serious Fritz? This guy was defensive player of the year two years ago.
                  Bold=emphasis.
                  OK, but if he was named that about 400 days ago, do you think he went from the best defensive player in the NFL to terrible that quick? At the very least, he'd be solid. I am all for getting him.
                  He's 34 years old. You just don't see trading a 2nd and 4th for a guy who might have two years left.
                  "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Fritz
                    Is he really going to put this team over the top next year?
                    How likely is it that a late 4th round draft pick will put us over the top?

                    Taylor is still a solid DE. Have any of you complainers actually looked at the guy's stats from last year?

                    11 sacks
                    4 forced fumbled
                    1 blocked kick
                    1 interception...for a TD
                    4 tipped passes

                    And mind you...this is on a defense of a ONE WIN TEAM without any real playmakers around him. He also showed no real sign of decline as the season wore on, despite the situation he was in. Taylor is a stud who doesn't turn 34 until September. He still has 2 good years left in him, and would instantly spice up our pass rush significantly.

                    Apparently, some of you forgot why the Giants won the Super Bowl this year. Taylor should be a priority if he is made available.

                    IMO, he is precisely the kind of player that COULD put our team over the top...which is why you don't hesitate to give up a 4th round pick to obtain him, and would consider offering a low 3rd to get the deal done if necessary.
                    My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                    • #55
                      Our fourth round pick is almost a fifth round pick. Our third round pick is almost a fourth. Who are we going to outbid with our fourth round pick, leave for NYG and NE? IMO, trade the third and get it over with or don't bother becuase it won't be enough.

                      I think Taylor would be the answer to finally complimenting Kampy for the next two years (or more, Taylor is a great athlete in great shape). Does it move Jenkins inside and create more DT depth? In my GM fantasy mode I think our third is a no brainer, but could see us being outbid pretty easily. There are many desperate teams out there for defense. Taylor is a bigger playmaker than many that have been overpaid in FA so far.

                      We seem content to put up with KGB for another 1-2 years, then we'll probably cut him. I don't see how Taylor's potential 1-2 years are any more temporary and unworthy than KGB's. If you could choose, who would you rather have for the next one-two years, Taylor or KGB?

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by The Leaper
                        Originally posted by Fritz
                        Is he really going to put this team over the top next year?
                        How likely is it that a late 4th round draft pick will put us over the top?

                        Taylor is still a solid DE. Have any of you complainers actually looked at the guy's stats from last year?

                        11 sacks
                        4 forced fumbled
                        1 blocked kick
                        1 interception...for a TD
                        4 tipped passes

                        And mind you...this is on a defense of a ONE WIN TEAM without any real playmakers around him. He also showed no real sign of decline as the season wore on, despite the situation he was in. Taylor is a stud who doesn't turn 34 until September. He still has 2 good years left in him, and would instantly spice up our pass rush significantly.

                        Apparently, some of you forgot why the Giants won the Super Bowl this year. Taylor should be a priority if he is made available.

                        IMO, he is precisely the kind of player that COULD put our team over the top...which is why you don't hesitate to give up a 4th round pick to obtain him, and would consider offering a low 3rd to get the deal done if necessary.
                        GB recieved a 2nd for Williams. Wouldn't that make Taylor worth more in comparison?

                        #1 reason Taylor will not come to GB...........

                        Thompson's sale pitch to Taylor:
                        "We really want you to come play for GB. We want you in GB so much, that we are willing to give up a late 4'th round draft pick. We will of coarse want to put a few clauses in your contract because we are worried about your behavior becoming a problem, but just as long as you realize that Kampman is the man in GB, and that you are not to step on his toes, you should be a great fit in GB."

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by The Leaper
                          Originally posted by Fritz
                          Is he really going to put this team over the top next year?
                          How likely is it that a late 4th round draft pick will put us over the top?

                          Taylor is still a solid DE. Have any of you complainers actually looked at the guy's stats from last year?

                          11 sacks
                          4 forced fumbled
                          1 blocked kick
                          1 interception...for a TD
                          4 tipped passes
                          I have heard more than a handful of times that 'we were only 3 points away from the super bowl.' Well, if that's the case then I guess my opinion is..you're damn right I think Taylor, if he is putting up those kinds of numbers above on a crappy defense, could help put us and our not crappy defense and team over the top.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by PackerBlues
                            GB recieved a 2nd for Williams. Wouldn't that make Taylor worth more in comparison?
                            No. The situations are completely different.

                            The tag factors in.
                            The age of the players factors in.
                            The rebuilding/new front office in Miami factors in.

                            Miami is rebuilding from square one...and holding on to Taylor makes little sense at this point for them, as he'll be in decline well before the Dolphins are competitive again. As such, getting what they can for him now allows the team to move forward and start developing their young talent. However, other teams also know this...and won't offer a premium package for him. That wasn't true in CW's case...Green Bay was willing to pay him the tag number and have him on the roster if other teams wouldn't offer a premium package.

                            Ultimately, I think it would take a 3rd round pick to snare Taylor from the Dolphins...since our slot is so low in the round. I'm sure numerous teams would consider giving up a 4th for him...but not too many will consider giving up a 3rd, so we benefit from being at the bottom of the 3rd round.
                            My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by The Leaper
                              Ultimately, I think it would take a 3rd round pick to snare Taylor from the Dolphins...since our slot is so low in the round. I'm sure numerous teams would consider giving up a 4th for him...but not too many will consider giving up a 3rd, so we benefit from being at the bottom of the 3rd round.
                              Or for a little bit more, possibly our second round pick (from the Browns) and our third round pick FOR Taylor and THEIR third round pick.

                              This allows them a few more slots as we give up our third and swap about 7 slots by trading our earlier second for their third (swap #56 for #63).

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by PackerBlues
                                Originally posted by The Leaper
                                Originally posted by Fritz
                                Is he really going to put this team over the top next year?
                                How likely is it that a late 4th round draft pick will put us over the top?

                                Taylor is still a solid DE. Have any of you complainers actually looked at the guy's stats from last year?

                                11 sacks
                                4 forced fumbled
                                1 blocked kick
                                1 interception...for a TD
                                4 tipped passes

                                And mind you...this is on a defense of a ONE WIN TEAM without any real playmakers around him. He also showed no real sign of decline as the season wore on, despite the situation he was in. Taylor is a stud who doesn't turn 34 until September. He still has 2 good years left in him, and would instantly spice up our pass rush significantly.

                                Apparently, some of you forgot why the Giants won the Super Bowl this year. Taylor should be a priority if he is made available.

                                IMO, he is precisely the kind of player that COULD put our team over the top...which is why you don't hesitate to give up a 4th round pick to obtain him, and would consider offering a low 3rd to get the deal done if necessary.
                                GB recieved a 2nd for Williams. Wouldn't that make Taylor worth more in comparison?

                                #1 reason Taylor will not come to GB...........

                                Thompson's sale pitch to Taylor:
                                "We really want you to come play for GB. We want you in GB so much, that we are willing to give up a late 4'th round draft pick. We will of coarse want to put a few clauses in your contract because we are worried about your behavior becoming a problem, but just as long as you realize that Kampman is the man in GB, and that you are not to step on his toes, you should be a great fit in GB."
                                what are you talking about? When has he had behavior problems? if thats your only concern than thats pretty good. I watched him play and he still has it.Putting him opposite of kampman would be a good fit. an upgrade over jenkins. Im not expecting it, much like i didnt expect moss to come to green bay

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