Here they come... Favre to Moss articles...

[MJZiggy]

That may be true, but usually when you start hearing/reading the stories of the Super Bowl team, those stories are ones of a cohesive locker room, teamwork, chemistry. It's rare in my memory to go to the SB when you bring in a temperamental ballhog (as opposed to a ballhawk) that pisses off the players that are already a part of the locker room.

[Rastak]

That may be true, but usually when you start hearing/reading the stories of the Super Bowl team, those stories are ones of a cohesive locker room, teamwork, chemistry. It's rare in my memory to go to the SB when you bring in a temperamental ballhog (as opposed to a ballhawk) that pisses off the players that are already a part of the locker room.

Actually I think Moss has been well liked in every locker room he's been in. He's a good guy from everything I've heard. The problem is between him and management. He's a non-conformist and a really odd duck. It doesn't play well with the powers that be. Plus, when he decides to shut it down for whatever reason, he's done being an effective player. Most teams don't want to deal with trying to keep him in the proper frame of mind and motivated. If you do, the payoff can be substantial, but few teams have the patience.

[MJZiggy]

You think M3 has the patience for a player who turns himself off?

[gbgary]

You think M3 has the patience for a player who turns himself off?

You think M3 has the patience for a player who turns himself on?

[MJZiggy]

What they do in the shower is their own business...

[Brando19]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

In early 2007, there were strong rumors making the rounds regarding the possible addition to the Green Bay Packers of receiver Randy Moss. Quarterback Brett Favre was thought to be lobbying heavily for the move, and at one point we heard that Favre was convinced that Moss would be coming to town. After Moss was traded by the Raiders to the Pats for a fourth-round pick and a half-gallon of chili, Favre was unable to conceal his displeasure.

Now, with Moss unsigned and believed to be unhappy with the terms proposed by the Patriots, Adam Schefter of NFL Network suggests that the Packers might pursue Moss as a way to persuade Favre to come back for another season.

It's an intriguing concept, but we're not sure how realistic it is. The Packers have Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, James Jones, and Koren Robinson. Then again, the Pats had a crowded house at the position a year ago when they acquired Moss, and Bill Belichick and company didn't bat an eye when the time came to pull the trigger.

Then there's the fact that Favre is a year-to-year proposition in Green Bay. After 2008, Moss could be a pricey luxury that the team can't fully utilize.

The bigger question, as we see it, is whether Moss is merely trying to scare up a big-money offer that would then be used to leverage the Pats. If he has agreed to give the Patriots a chance to match any proposals that he might receive elsewhere, why should the Packers or the Cowboys or the Eagles or anyone negotiate the contract that Moss ultimately will sign in New England?

Frankly, we think that Moss has badly misplayed this one. By creating the impression that he is committed to staying in New England, teams aren't going to be likely to make him a big-money offer during the early days of free agency. And if he ever convinces folks that he's serious about leaving, the wallets that currently are wide open will be quickly closing.

In hindsight, the best opportunity for Moss in Green Bay was a year ago. His presence likely would have been enough to propel the Pack to a Super Bowl win. And then Favre could have retired and Moss could have hit the market and other teams would have believed that he was serious about moving on.

Maybe he would have then signed an Adalius Thomas-style long-term deal with the Patriots.

[Merlin]

Why do they even feed into this crap?

Moss won't be a Packer because Thompson won't pay for him.

Thompson "likes who we have" and has said so as recently as what? the 22nd?

[cpk1994]

I must say, I'd welcome Moss with open arms.

I'd say with the five WR we have, I wouldn't want Moss within 1,000 miles of GB.

[DannoMac21]

I must say, I'd welcome Moss with open arms.

I'd say with the five WR we have, I wouldn't want Moss within 1,000 miles of GB.

Ah yes, because Ruvell Martin, Koren Robinson, James Jones, Greg Jennings, and Donald Driver are miles better than Randy Moss.

[MJZiggy]

I must say, I'd welcome Moss with open arms.

I'd say with the five WR we have, I wouldn't want Moss within 1,000 miles of GB.

Ah yes, because Ruvell Martin, Koren Robinson, James Jones, Greg Jennings, and Donald Driver are miles better than Randy Moss.

No, more because they're all selfless players who come in and run the routes they're asked to run and catch the balls without counting how many they get and have a friendly little competition going to see who can get the most YAC. They work as a team--as a unit and I wouldn't want to bring in a high priced dude who thinks he's entitled to something or doesn't have to run across the middle when that's his assigned route. The guys we have don't do that stuff. They get along with each other and they get along with the coaches and management.

[Bretsky]

I must say, I'd welcome Moss with open arms.

I'd say with the five WR we have, I wouldn't want Moss within 1,000 miles of GB.

Ah yes, because Ruvell Martin, Koren Robinson, James Jones, Greg Jennings, and Donald Driver are miles better than Randy Moss.

No, more because they're all selfless players who come in and run the routes they're asked to run and catch the balls without counting how many they get and have a friendly little competition going to see who can get the most YAC. They work as a team--as a unit and I wouldn't want to bring in a high priced dude who thinks he's entitled to something or doesn't have to run across the middle when that's his assigned route. The guys we have don't do that stuff. They get along with each other and they get along with the coaches and management.

There are selfless players with less talent at every position that get cut for players with more ability, whether it be at RB, WR, and about every other position. I can dig somebody trying to argue Moss will be a cancer or he'll cost too much, even though he didn't cause trouble last year. It's hard for me to accept the theory that we want to keep the better attitude players with far less talent just because they are selfless and we assume Randy Moss would not be and will not do what we ask for him. He went over the middle plenty of the times for the Patriots.

[MJZiggy]

Far less talent? Maybe they have less talent, but Moss is not God and he does not sweat pearls last I checked. Before last season everyone was wondering if he'd even perform and now for some reason, the Pats aren't even signing him. He should have teams swimming around him like sharks around a piece of fresh meat. I'm intrigued as to why.

[Bretsky]

Far less talent? Maybe they have less talent, but Moss is not God and he does not sweat pearls last I checked. Before last season everyone was wondering if he'd even perform and now for some reason, the Pats aren't even signing him. He should have teams swimming around him like sharks around a piece of fresh meat. I'm intrigued as to why.

Because he'll cost a lot of money and he's showed character issues in the past. And typically NE does not pay players top tier $$.

Ruvell Martin has FAR LESS talent than Randy Moss; it'd be hard for even you to argue with that. Heck, Ballhawk would even agree

[MJZiggy]

You KNOW I was referring to Driver and Jennings. So they get demoted, huh? That sends a great message to one of the best in the business. And Driver IS one of the best. And Jennings has a lot more left to give than Moss.

[Bretsky]

You KNOW I was referring to Driver and Jennings. So they get demoted, huh? That sends a great message to one of the best in the business. And Driver IS one of the best. And Jennings has a lot more left to give than Moss.

I compare him to the guy he replaces

If they are selfless like you proclaim them to be then you should also feel that they won't care if they are the #1, #2, #3 etc...WR so why would you infer about any type of message being sent ?