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  • #16
    That's a pretty good summary Patler. From my understanding, we play a 4-3, but it's a little different than a typical 4-3. We like our ends up wide to get better angles at the QB and then have our DT's both be space eaters (similar to Pickett, Jolly and Harrell if he becomes the guy he was at Tennessee).

    Williams really struggled holding position in the run game. He got regularly washed out and run on (not that Harrell didn't, but Harrell was a rookie who was set back in his development. He has more of an excuse than CW).

    In some one gap schemes I think he would have been more effective becuase so much wouldn't have been asked, but our defense asks a lot out of our DT's, CB's and DE's.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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    • #17
      Thompson gave a little hint as to what he thought of C-dub at the combine. He said they like their group as a whole more than if they broke it apart and anylized it seperately. He said he liked how they rotated in and out. . . . I think Thompson was saying that Williams is more of a pass rusher. They like him. They wanted to keep him in the rotation, but they don't value him as a top all around DT because he's not complete.



      Meanwhile, many teams saw C-dub as a starter and wanted to pay him as such. The Packers did the right thing to tag him and maximize his value but to Williams, this was his life. It's not personal, but it's hard not to take it that way when a team takes away your opportunity to make mega dollars and has no intention of giving you close to what you're worth on the open market.
      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by JustinHarrell
        I think Ted is just trying to say something without saying he didn't think Williams was worth what he wanted.
        And Williams is just pandering to the fanbase of his new team.

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        • #19
          He didn't say that Applebee's was the classiest restaurant in GB.....he's still ok in my book

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          • #20
            So there you have it. Good luck to you Corey Williams, and may time put your entire Packer experience into the proper prospective.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by GBRulz
              He didn't say that Applebee's was the classiest restaurant in GB.....he's still ok in my book
              I knew that was comin'.

              (I wonder what Applebee's thought of Longwell's comment?)

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              • #22
                Sure he was pissed about getting the tag...it's a business. He should be smart enough to know that and he should be smart enough to keep his mouth shut as well. He got what he wanted in the end, a chance to start and make some big money. Shit like that just makes you sound like an idiot.
                C.H.U.D.

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                • #23
                  Williams said:

                  "I wanted out of Green Bay and I'm glad Cleveland called me," Williams said during a news conference in Cleveland. "I feel like I am wanted here. It feels like home to me, and I've only been here one day. I already feel like I got the love that I have been looking for. I'm happy and excited about it."

                  Asked why he sought a ticket out of Green Bay, Williams said, "There's a bunch of different reasons and I don't care to talk about it right now. I just wanted out."

                  Thompson said:

                  "We were in position and felt comfortable in tendering Corey the franchise number," Thompson said. "We were less comfortable given our structure about a longer-term deal."
                  Did Williams really say anything worse than Thompson did? Williams said he didn't want to stay in Green Bay, and that he didn't feel "love" in GB. Thompson effectively said he didn't want to keep him. Big deal!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Patler
                    I can't really blame Williams for feeling as he does. His remark was very mild, and he tactfully refused to elaborate. From his perspective:

                    He worked his tail off, coming from a low draft spot to be a starter in 2006.
                    Then, a DT was drafted, who hadn't played much as a senior, and was listed as the starter immediately after the draft.
                    CW commented at the time that it wasn't right to list Harrell the starter without earning it.
                    The Packers apparently didn't come close to offering what he correctly realized he could get elsewhere.
                    The Packers seemingly blocked him from realizing that financial windfall.

                    Put in his position, I could easily feel a little resentment.
                    We forget the players are athletes, not trained PR spokesmen for them selves. Their emotions can cause them to say things they wouldn't if they thought about it a little more. He did not openly trash the organization, the town or individuals like Longwell, Sharper and Walker did. It was not a comment made after a period of reflection on the events. For him it was the end of a whirlwind couple days of negotiations and life changing events. He simply said he wanted to get out, which I suspect has been true the last few weeks when he realized he would not get the contract others would give him. It looked as if the Packers did not value him highly, yet blocked his ability to go somewhere that did.
                    Great post Patler. I had not seen anyone else mention this, perhaps because it is so obvious, but by putting the franchise tag on Williams, GB didn't just take away Williams' chance at a monsterous payday, but they also took away his choice of where he would go.

                    I am happy for how things turned out for the Packers, but Williams did kind of get screwed on this deal. It may turn out to be a great situation for him in Cleveland, but I would not blame him for being upset with how he ended up there.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by PackerBlues
                      I am happy for how things turned out for the Packers, but Williams did kind of get screwed on this deal. It may turn out to be a great situation for him in Cleveland, but I would not blame him for being upset with how he ended up there.
                      Still no reason to bash your former team.

                      Business is business...Green Bay did what they had to in order to maximize the value they got for him, and it was all within the rules. It should not have been unexpected or surprising to CW that events turned out as they did.

                      Bottom line is he still got paid, and Green Bay got a fair value for him. Seems like a win-win to me.
                      My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by The Leaper
                        Still no reason to bash your former team.

                        Business is business...Green Bay did what they had to in order to maximize the value they got for him, and it was all within the rules.

                        It's not against the rules to bash your former team - is it?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                          It's not against the rules to bash your former team - is it?
                          No, but it isn't necessarily a good career move either...see Javon Walker.
                          My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                          • #28
                            The fatass didn't talk too harshly but as mentioned he personally would have looked like a classy person for just taking it in stride and being happy that in the end he got what he wanted.

                            Hope he has plenty of help on the Browns DL because based on how he wore down in 2007 he is gonna need it.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by MadtownPacker
                              The fatass didn't talk too harshly but as mentioned he personally would have looked like a classy person for just taking it in stride and being happy that in the end he got what he wanted.

                              Hope he has plenty of help on the Browns DL because based on how he wore down in 2007 he is gonna need it.
                              They just signed Shaun Rogers. Another fat man not known for his stamina.

                              Should be interesting.

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                              • #30
                                Williams isn't fat.

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