Williams trade

[The Leaper]

Would have pouted and been a disruption. Thus the team is better now that a malcontent is gone.

Doubtful. CW wasn't going to get paid if he was a pouting disruption. All tagged players are pouty and pissed off in March. By August, they change their tune and realize they are in a contract year again.

[RashanGary]

And don't forget we have another rookie at the position in Bolston to provide a jump start on filling the rotational role that Williams was good for.

There is no reason to think that between Harrell, Muir, Jolly, and Bolston, along with whatever other fatties we stir up before camp, we can't find someone either almost as good or maybe even better in a starting role than Williams was.

Oh yeah, this too. He's not irreplacable.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I don't think the notion that Harrell is the replacement for Williams jives with the reality of their talents and abilities.

HE's the replacement in the sense that they have only so many slots for well-paid defensive lineman.

I thought Williams was pretty good.

We'll see. They let Vonnie Holliday go to make room for up-and-comer Cletedius Hunt. Harrell has to be really good for this to be a good move. Any good defensive linemen will be expensive, the money is a wash.

BTW, I was shocked to see that Holliday is still in the league!

[Harlan Huckleby]

There is no reason to think that between Harrell, Muir, Jolly, and Bolston, along with whatever other fatties we stir up before camp, we can't find someone either almost as good or maybe even better in a starting role than Williams was.

maybe they will. maybe not.

[RashanGary]

Losing him for nothing on the UFA market is one thing. We got a valuable 2nd round pick for him and avoided the troubling long term salary. I think it was a good move. Honestly, poeple brought up trades but I never thought they were realisitic. I didn't think a team would pony up a high pick and a big contract for Williams. I was wrong and right now I'm happy that I was because I think we'll come out ahead in this one.

[The Leaper]

HE's the replacement in the sense that they have only so many slots for well-paid defensive lineman.

To me, Harrell isn't even in the discussion.

The evidence regarding whether or not this was a good move will be CW's play in Cleveland in comparison to the money ($7M) he is getting paid on average...as well as the play of the player(s) we obtain with the 2nd round pick we got in return.

Whether or not Harrell pans out has no bearing on whether or not this was a good deal by Thompson. If CW bombs in Cleveland and/or the player(s) we acquire with the 2nd round pick turn out to be productive, it won't make a difference what happens to Harrell...the deal would've been a good one.

[Freak Out]

Were not fully into hindsight mode yet...

[Harlan Huckleby]

I wish they would have kept him for a year to monitor Harrell's progress.

Genius. Pure Genius. Who is this Harlan Huckleby sage?

[sheepshead]

I posted this on JSO but I though he should have made the pro bowl instead of Tommie Harris, who I thought made it in name only.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Whether or not Harrell pans out has no bearing on whether or not this was a good deal by Thompson. .

Idiocy. Pure Idiocy. Who is this Village Idiot, The Leaper?

[DonHutson]

I vote no, but the real answer is not yet.

As you said HH, Williams is a solid, maybe even good starting DT. But he's being paid like a superstar and that's just silly.

So this year, Williams at the $6M franchise tag number compared to what you'll get from Brohm... you're better off with Williams. Starting next year when Williams would've been gone as a FA anyway (or resigned at a ridiculous amount), and hopefully when Brohm turns into a really solid QB you'll be better off with the trade.

The other factor is that Williams wasn't happy abut getting franchised, would he be holding out or acting all sulky? Who knows.

[DonHutson]

One other thing. Thompson is very proactive about keeping the guys he wants to keep. Williams put together two good years and the Packers never seemed to show much of an interest in keeping him around. I get the feeling they were worried about Williams going downhill after he got paid.

[boiga]

One other thing to remember is that Cory is out injured right now, so even if he were still on our team we'd be short handed.

Our D-Line play will improve greatly when Pickett comes back this week.

[Lurker64]

I'm not in hindsight mode yet, considering that Williams was always somewhat unspectacular playing the run (he was about the equal of Colin Cole in that regard), his particular talent was in inside pass rush. He wasn't even starting last year until Jolly got hurt because he was a comparative liability against the run.

My concern about the DL this year is about whether or not the whole rotation will be able to stonewall the running game, not as much about whether the interior pass-rush won't skip a beat. If we could pick up another guy who can play the run about as well as Colin Cole, and we actually due tune up the blitz dial this year (and do so effectively), Williams won't be a great loss.

[falco]

when i saw the title of this my heart skipped a beat but then resumed its normal pace