A few CB's who fit the Packers scheme

[RashanGary]

Early Round Candidates:
Aqib Talib Kansas 6006 202 4.45
Antoine Cason Arizona 6002 191 4.48
D. Rodgers-Cromartie Tennessee St. 6014 184 4.33
Tracy Porter Indiana 5107 188 4.37


Later Round Possiblities
Dwight Lowery San Jose St. 5111 201 4.59
Zack Bowman Nebraska 6001 197 4.43
Darnell Terrell Missouri 6016 203 4.48
Terrell Thomas USC 6004 202 4.49



Ted Thompson always talks about liking CB's with ball skills so the first criteria was ball skills. Also, none of the CB's he brings in are under 5'11" so I used 5'10-1/2" as a limit. Then I got rid of guys who ran slower than 4.6 because I do think you need some speed if you are going to be left on an island the way our DB's often are. So here's the list of guys that fit the description of what Thompson say's he likes and what he's done so far.

[red]

i said it before and i'll say it again, when i was watching the combine, cromartie stood out from everyone else. he looks like a future stud

porter caught my eye a couple times

and talib looked very raw

[Tony Oday]

Unless they are from a small school and available in the 3rd round dont count on any of them hehe

[falco]

there is only one future HOF cb in this draft though...

[Charles Woodson]

i said it before and i'll say it again, when i was watching the combine, cromartie stood out from everyone else. he looks like a future stud

porter caught my eye a couple times

and talib looked very raw

I agree 100% with cromartie.
I havent looked at porter, what type of year did he have?

[Lurker64]

You missed Lee out of Auburn, he's probably the most physical corner in the draft, and his bump and run skills are reminiscent of Al Harris when he was with the Eagles. He's probably the corner in the draft that fits our system the best, and even though he's a "Second round grade", I could see us taking him in the first.

Patrick Lee, CB Auburn, 6'-0" 202 lbs, 4.42 40-yard dash.

Pros include: "A great natural athlete", "Very good size and bulk", "Excellent timed speed", "Tough and strong", "Plays a physical brand of football", "Good ball skills", "Has fluid hips to turn and run vertically".

[BallHawk]

Any opinions on Reggie Smith out of Oklahoma?

[Partial]

You missed Lee out of Auburn, he's probably the most physical corner in the draft, and his bump and run skills are reminiscent of Al Harris when he was with the Eagles. He's probably the corner in the draft that fits our system the best, and even though he's a "Second round grade", I could see us taking him in the first.

Patrick Lee, CB Auburn, 6'-0" 202 lbs, 4.42 40-yard dash.

Pros include: "A great natural athlete", "Very good size and bulk", "Excellent timed speed", "Tough and strong", "Plays a physical brand of football", "Good ball skills", "Has fluid hips to turn and run vertically".

I hope some of these guys start to fall. I could see TT using 2 of the first three picks on DB if he doesn't feel strongly about Bush, Blackmon or Williams. There are a lot of quality guys available.

[packrulz]

Here's the rankings from Scout.com.

http://profootballexperts.scout.com/a.z?s=211&p=9&c=12&nid=83&lnid=124&yr=2008

Interesting CB Cromartie is ranked ahead of RB Stewart, I think both will be gone when TT picks.



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Pos Overall
Rank Rating Name Yr Ht/Wt/40 College Home
RB 1 Darren McFadden JR 6-2/210/4.45 Arkansas North Little Rock, AR
DT 2 Glenn Dorsey SR 6-1.5/313/- LSU Gonzales, LA
QB 3 Matt Ryan SR 6-5/224/4.90 Boston College Philadelphia, PA
DT 4 Sedrick Ellis SR 6-1/307/4.95 USC Chino, CA
DE 5 Chris Long SR 6-3.5/278/4.75 Virginia Charlottesville, VA
DE 6 Calais Campbell JR 6-7/280/4.75 Miami (FL) Denver, CO
OT 7 Jake Long SR 6-7/335/- Michigan Lapeer, MI
CB 8 Mike Jenkins SR 5-11/200/4.45 South Florida Bradenton, FL
OLB 9 Dan Connor SR 6-3/230/- Penn State Wallingford, PA
S 10 Kenny Phillips JR 6-2/210/4.50 Miami (FL) Miami, FL
MLB 11 Keith Rivers SR 6-3/237/4.60 USC Lake Mary, FL
OT 12 Chris Williams SR 6-6/317/5.30 Vanderbilt Baton Rouge, LA
OT 13 Jeff Otah SR 6-6.5/341/- Pittsburgh Wayne, PA
DE 14 Quentin Groves SR 6-3/252/4.43 Auburn Greenville, MS
CB 15 Aqib Talib JR 6-1/195/4.50 Kansas Richardson, TX
DE 16 Vernon Gholston JR 6-3/260/4.75 Ohio State Detroit, MI
OT 17 Ryan Clady JR 6-6/320/- Boise State Rialto, CA
CB 18 Leodis McKelvin SR 5-10.5/186/4.48 Troy Waycross, GA
WR 19 Malcolm Kelly JR 6-4/215/4.50 Oklahoma Longview, TX
CB 20 Terrell Thomas SR 6-1/200/4.50 USC Rancho Cucamonga, CA
DE 21 Derrick Harvey JR 6-4/260/4.75 Florida Greenbelt, MD
TE 22 Fred Davis SR 6-3.5/251/4.75 USC Toledo, OH
RB 23 Felix Jones JR 6-0/207/- Arkansas Tulsa, OK
WR 24 Devin Thomas JR 6-2/215/4.50 Michigan State
RB 25 Jamaal Charles JR 6-1/205/4.45 Texas Port Arthur, TX
RB 26 Rashard Mendenhall JR 5-10.5/215/4.55 Illinois Skokie, IL
OT 27 Carl Nicks SR 6-5/335/5.30 Nebraska Salinas, CA
CB 28 Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie SR 6-1.5/183/4.47 Tennessee State Bradenton, FL
DT 29 Kentwan Balmer SR 6-4/295/5.15 North Carolina Weldon, NC
WR 30 Donnie Avery SR 5-10/184/4.33 Houston Alief, TX
WR 31 Mario Manningham JR 6-0/187/- Michigan Warren, OH
TE 32 Martellus Bennett JR 6-6/250/4.75 Texas A&M Houston, TX
OG 33 Oniel Cousins SR 6-4/302/5.04 UTEP Fullerton, CA
RB 34 Jonathan Stewart JR 5-11/230/- Oregon Olympia, WA
OT 35 Sam Baker SR 6-5/314/5.10 USC Tustin, CA
DE 36 Lawrence Jackson SR 6-5/270/4.90 USC Inglewood, CA
RB 37 Chris Johnson SR 5-10/201/4.29 East Carolina Orlando, FL
RB 38 Steve Slaton JR 5-10/200/4.50 West Virginia Fairless Hills, PA
WR 39 Earl Bennett JR 6-1/202/- Vanderbilt Birmingham, AL
OLB 40 Tavares Gooden SR 6-2/235/4.55 Miami (FL) Fort Lauderdale, FL
QB 41 Joe Flacco SR 6-6/237/5.00 Delaware Audubon, NJ
OT 42 Anthony Collins JR 6-6/315/5.20 Kansas Beaumont, TX
QB 43 Chad Henne SR 6-3/245/5.00 Michigan West Lawn, PA
MLB 44 Beau Bell SR 6-2/253/4.63 UNLV
DT 45 Pat Sims JR 6-4/315/5.00 Auburn Fort Lauderdale, FL
TE 46 Dustin Keller SR 6-2/251/4.70 Purdue Lafayette, IN
DE 47 Chris Ellis SR 6-4/257/4.70 Virginia Tech Hampton, VA
DT 48 Dre Moore SR 6-3.5/308/- Maryland Charlotte, NC
WR 49 Andre Caldwell SR 6-0/203/4.55 Florida Tampa, FL
QB 50 Brian Brohm SR 6-3/227/4.82 Louisville Louisville, KY

[RashanGary]

I left Lee off because he was raw and couldn't crack the field until is senior year I believe. I saw that he was very raw and had poor instintcts. Thompson tends to pick guys who have played a lot of football. Maybe I was hard on Lee, but something about him made me think Thompson wouldn't take him as high as other GM's might.

[RashanGary]

I left Reggie Smith of because it said he doesn't close well when the ball is in the air. To me that says he gets beat. I'm no scout though. These are just the guys I thought were good CBs and could play bump based on the writeups.

[Joemailman]

Could be a physical corner, or could be a 'tweener like Antuan Edwards.

http://condraft.com/database/big-12/oklahoma/reggie-smith/index.html

[packrulz]

I've checked a lot of mock drafts and 80% have the Packers taking a CB in the first round, a couple has them taking TE Fred Davis, one had them taking T Jeff Otah. A deep draft for corners this year, Cromartie or Talib would be great!

[Fritz]

First, Justin, thanks for the research you do. Good thread.

Second, I haven't looked into the draft yet, but from what you all are writing, it looks like Cromartie would be a steal if he were available at the end of the first round. But as Tony has noted, TT will be looking for a small-school guy in the third round...

[RashanGary]

I could easily see us taking a guy like Tracy Porter in the 1st round.

He's 5'10-7/8". Just a smidge under 5'11". It's not ideal, but it's not so short that it becomes a problem. Ahmad Carroll measured 5'9-1/2" at the combine so Porter is an inch and a half taller for comparison.


He had 16 interceptions. He ran a 4.37 at the combine. Everything I read, he's a lockdown type CB. He's not a great tackler, but they say he became effective as a senior. IN our scheme, with the CB's playing man to man, they don't make a lot of tackles because their back is to the line of scrimmage for most of the play anyway. I've also seen reports where his best skill is man coverge.

He's not the ideal size, but he is adiquate in size and has the ideal skills. None of us know who Thompson is going to pick with any level of certainty, but if I had to guess just one player, I'd guess Tracy Porter becaues he's an accomplished playmaker that has a chance of dropping.