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  • #31
    Originally posted by The Leaper
    Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
    Actually the Packers are going to have to make back up QB a priorty now, and will most likely have to spend a significant draft pick on a QB. Best case scenario is that the QB becomes a good back up and he is traded.
    I don't see why you need to spend a significant draft pick on a QB. Rodgers is the guy now...he needs a DEPENDABLE backup, not a rookie. Whoever we draft should be our #3 QB in 2008...so a 4th-5th rounder probably would suffice.

    This draft isn't all that great at QB anyway.
    Ok, who do you go get that is going to be a better talent then some of the early round QBs in the draft? I agree get a solid back up, but outside of guys like Chris Simms, where are these solid backups to be had outside of trades? You probably would have to wait until the final cuts of the pre season.

    Brian Leftwich? You want him in a Packer uniform? Maybe Chad Pennington if he is cut?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
      Originally posted by St. Vince
      How about Chad Henne? It would be interesting if he were available in the 3rd round (perhaps even the late 2nd round pick).
      nah. I didn't notice it myself, but when other people here agreed that he has a slow release that made me nervous. Sounds like a statue.
      Plus, he wasn't much to write home about after having one year of Braylon Edwards bailing his ass out.

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      • #33
        From what I have read, I think (hope) that Rodgers has gotten all that Tedford crap out of his system. I remember an article a ways back stating the way he held the ball was "returning to normal" and he wasn't so mechanical anymore.

        We shall see....
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        • #34
          Re: Draft Colt Brennan

          Originally posted by rbaloha
          University of Hawaii's previous football coach June Jones said during the past college football season Coach McCarthty was very interested in Colt.

          Dismiss the critics -- the guy can play. His accuracy is amazing (check out the combine) and playing stats. Played in a New England style offense. Great ability to read defenses. Tough dude.

          Great 3-4 round pic.

          Brennan looked terrible against GA. Looked terrible against future players in bowl games. Bad at the combines.

          185 pounds..suddenly gaining weight. Hmmm.

          Brennan you take in the 6th..if ever.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Merlin
            Originally posted by GoPackGo
            Originally posted by Merlin
            Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
            You have to seriously consider someone like John David Booty out of USC, Chad Hienne out of Michigan, and Josh Johnson out of San Deigo who is more of an athlete than a pure passer.

            Anyways the Packers have to have a back up considering Rodgers small injury concern that can at least come in and manage the offense.
            I like Andre Woodson out of Kentucky. This kid didn't exactly have big name players surrounding him like a USC/Michigan team does and he put up some incredible numbers. Draft boards have him slipping after a poor showing in the Senior Bowl practices. That may be a blessing for us. Rodgers needs competition to bring him to the next level. Just handing him the reigns isn't going to make him better. The last position we need growing pains at is QB.
            After watching Tim Couch, I don't want any QB's from Kentucky
            After watching Trent Dilfer, Joey Harrington, and David Carr I didn't want a Tedford QB either, good luck to us all.
            Considering Trent Dilfer has as many Super Bowl rings as Favre, I wouldn't keep him on that list.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
              Originally posted by Merlin
              Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
              You have to seriously consider someone like John David Booty out of USC, Chad Hienne out of Michigan, and Josh Johnson out of San Deigo who is more of an athlete than a pure passer.

              Anyways the Packers have to have a back up considering Rodgers small injury concern that can at least come in and manage the offense.
              I like Andre Woodson out of Kentucky. This kid didn't exactly have big name players surrounding him like a USC/Michigan team does and he put up some incredible numbers. Draft boards have him slipping after a poor showing in the Senior Bowl practices. That may be a blessing for us. Rodgers needs competition to bring him to the next level. Just handing him the reigns isn't going to make him better. The last position we need growing pains at is QB.
              Woodson was the front runner about mid way through the year for the Hiesman and then the wheels sort of fell off. His concerns are accuracy, and that he played mostly out of the shotgun. I wouldn't draft him to come in and play right away if I was a team that was in need of a starting QB, but he has talent and can possibly molded into a long time starting caliber QB if given time.

              Colt Brennan is an interesting story, although his character is questionable, he is a bit narrow, thin, small build and he doesn't have a cannon for an arm. His mechanics are good, and he is accuracte as long as he doesn't have to throwing while running away from defenders. Pressure got to him against Georgia, although it was understandable since he was sacked 13 times.
              Woodson was on the run a lot the last half of the season. I have been watching this kid since his sophomore year. He just gets better and better. If McCarthy is a genius of a QB coach as I believe he was billed to be, then he is a perfect fit for our style of offense. He has strong leadership, field presence and a cannon for an arm. Accuracy can be worked on but leadership and presence doesn't just "happen". When teams faced off against Kentucky, they knew they had to account for him.

              Colt Brennan is an interesting prospect although he will probably not be around for us to even think about. I also have my concerns because be played in such a weak conference. I still wish we took Quinn last year regardless of Favre retiring. I think he was the most NFL ready QB that was out there coming out of college in recent memory. There is certainly no one NFL ready in this draft.
              "Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
              – Benjamin Franklin

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              • #37
                Originally posted by cpk1994
                Originally posted by Merlin
                Originally posted by GoPackGo
                Originally posted by Merlin
                Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                You have to seriously consider someone like John David Booty out of USC, Chad Hienne out of Michigan, and Josh Johnson out of San Deigo who is more of an athlete than a pure passer.

                Anyways the Packers have to have a back up considering Rodgers small injury concern that can at least come in and manage the offense.
                I like Andre Woodson out of Kentucky. This kid didn't exactly have big name players surrounding him like a USC/Michigan team does and he put up some incredible numbers. Draft boards have him slipping after a poor showing in the Senior Bowl practices. That may be a blessing for us. Rodgers needs competition to bring him to the next level. Just handing him the reigns isn't going to make him better. The last position we need growing pains at is QB.
                After watching Tim Couch, I don't want any QB's from Kentucky
                After watching Trent Dilfer, Joey Harrington, and David Carr I didn't want a Tedford QB either, good luck to us all.
                Considering Trent Dilfer has as many Super Bowl rings as Favre, I wouldn't keep him on that list.
                So now we are judging QB's by Super Bowl rings? Gotcha, I guess Favre really sucks then. Nevermind the fact Dilfer was let go after the win. Shows the confidence in that QB now doesn't it.
                "Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
                – Benjamin Franklin

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Merlin
                  Originally posted by GoPackGo
                  Originally posted by Merlin
                  Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                  You have to seriously consider someone like John David Booty out of USC, Chad Hienne out of Michigan, and Josh Johnson out of San Deigo who is more of an athlete than a pure passer.

                  Anyways the Packers have to have a back up considering Rodgers small injury concern that can at least come in and manage the offense.
                  I like Andre Woodson out of Kentucky. This kid didn't exactly have big name players surrounding him like a USC/Michigan team does and he put up some incredible numbers. Draft boards have him slipping after a poor showing in the Senior Bowl practices. That may be a blessing for us. Rodgers needs competition to bring him to the next level. Just handing him the reigns isn't going to make him better. The last position we need growing pains at is QB.
                  After watching Tim Couch, I don't want any QB's from Kentucky
                  After watching Trent Dilfer, Joey Harrington, and David Carr I didn't want a Tedford QB either, good luck to us all.
                  Leave it to you to be completely stupid.

                  Dilfer: HAS WON A SUPERBOWL. If Arod does that i'll be happy.

                  Carr: Umm, that would be interesting how Tedford affected him since Carr red shirted in 99 and started in 00 and 00...wait for it, wait for it..wait for it.. Tedford had last coached at Fresno state in 1997.

                  Harrington: Tedford was gone by the time Joey had his tremendous senior year..and Tedford was the OC..not the QB coach. But, i'll give you some leeway on that.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Brohm
                    From what I have read, I think (hope) that Rodgers has gotten all that Tedford crap out of his system. I remember an article a ways back stating the way he held the ball was "returning to normal" and he wasn't so mechanical anymore.

                    We shall see....
                    The mechanics aren't my concern. It's the complexity of the offense and the ability to read the defense that is. One poster thinks because Dilfer won a super bowl that makes a statement for Tedford QB's. Even though that QB is a journeyman.

                    Rodgers has shown he can scramble for yardage. He has also shown he can get knocked out of the game. The two don't mix well. He needs to gain pocket presence, be able to read defenses, and be able to look off receivers. Against Dallas, the WR did a lot to make him look good. He never looked past his primary route and hung onto the ball until that route opened up. The saving grace part is he got the ball to them, something he had struggled with in previous seasons. Tedford QB's are not successful in the NFL for different reasons but the one that always haunts them is the complexity of the game and the decision making.
                    "Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
                    – Benjamin Franklin

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                      Originally posted by Merlin
                      Originally posted by GoPackGo
                      Originally posted by Merlin
                      Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                      You have to seriously consider someone like John David Booty out of USC, Chad Hienne out of Michigan, and Josh Johnson out of San Deigo who is more of an athlete than a pure passer.

                      Anyways the Packers have to have a back up considering Rodgers small injury concern that can at least come in and manage the offense.
                      I like Andre Woodson out of Kentucky. This kid didn't exactly have big name players surrounding him like a USC/Michigan team does and he put up some incredible numbers. Draft boards have him slipping after a poor showing in the Senior Bowl practices. That may be a blessing for us. Rodgers needs competition to bring him to the next level. Just handing him the reigns isn't going to make him better. The last position we need growing pains at is QB.
                      After watching Tim Couch, I don't want any QB's from Kentucky
                      After watching Trent Dilfer, Joey Harrington, and David Carr I didn't want a Tedford QB either, good luck to us all.
                      Leave it to you to be completely stupid.

                      Dilfer: HAS WON A SUPERBOWL. If Arod does that i'll be happy.

                      Carr: Umm, that would be interesting how Tedford affected him since Carr red shirted in 99 and started in 00 and 00...wait for it, wait for it..wait for it.. Tedford had last coached at Fresno state in 1997.

                      Harrington: Tedford was gone by the time Joey had his tremendous senior year..and Tedford was the OC..not the QB coach. But, i'll give you some leeway on that.
                      Okay Ty, you are soo smart. Name one successful Tedford QB. Go ahead. And don't give me Dilfer's Super Bowl on a team where he was asked not to screw up and rely on defense and a running game.
                      "Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
                      – Benjamin Franklin

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Merlin
                        Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                        Originally posted by Merlin
                        Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                        You have to seriously consider someone like John David Booty out of USC, Chad Hienne out of Michigan, and Josh Johnson out of San Deigo who is more of an athlete than a pure passer.

                        Anyways the Packers have to have a back up considering Rodgers small injury concern that can at least come in and manage the offense.
                        I like Andre Woodson out of Kentucky. This kid didn't exactly have big name players surrounding him like a USC/Michigan team does and he put up some incredible numbers. Draft boards have him slipping after a poor showing in the Senior Bowl practices. That may be a blessing for us. Rodgers needs competition to bring him to the next level. Just handing him the reigns isn't going to make him better. The last position we need growing pains at is QB.
                        Woodson was the front runner about mid way through the year for the Hiesman and then the wheels sort of fell off. His concerns are accuracy, and that he played mostly out of the shotgun. I wouldn't draft him to come in and play right away if I was a team that was in need of a starting QB, but he has talent and can possibly molded into a long time starting caliber QB if given time.

                        Colt Brennan is an interesting story, although his character is questionable, he is a bit narrow, thin, small build and he doesn't have a cannon for an arm. His mechanics are good, and he is accuracte as long as he doesn't have to throwing while running away from defenders. Pressure got to him against Georgia, although it was understandable since he was sacked 13 times.
                        Woodson was on the run a lot the last half of the season. I have been watching this kid since his sophomore year. He just gets better and better. If McCarthy is a genius of a QB coach as I believe he was billed to be, then he is a perfect fit for our style of offense. He has strong leadership, field presence and a cannon for an arm. Accuracy can be worked on but leadership and presence doesn't just "happen". When teams faced off against Kentucky, they knew they had to account for him.

                        Colt Brennan is an interesting prospect although he will probably not be around for us to even think about. I also have my concerns because be played in such a weak conference. I still wish we took Quinn last year regardless of Favre retiring. I think he was the most NFL ready QB that was out there coming out of college in recent memory. There is certainly no one NFL ready in this draft.
                        You've been watching him since his sophomore year? How? With the vast Kentucky games on what network? And, why? Did you attend UK?

                        So, you were watching him lead UK to a 3-8 record as a sophomore. You were watching when they were 7-5 the next year? Stop lying.

                        Nobody watches UK football..not even Kentuckians.

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                        • #42
                          They do broadcast on National TV or were you too busy packing your crack pipe? I first saw him while flipping through channels waiting for a Badger game. I watched every chance I got from then on. Did I care about Kentucky? Hell no, I could care less. But this kid was worth watching.
                          "Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
                          – Benjamin Franklin

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Merlin
                            Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                            Originally posted by Merlin
                            Originally posted by GoPackGo
                            Originally posted by Merlin
                            Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                            You have to seriously consider someone like John David Booty out of USC, Chad Hienne out of Michigan, and Josh Johnson out of San Deigo who is more of an athlete than a pure passer.

                            Anyways the Packers have to have a back up considering Rodgers small injury concern that can at least come in and manage the offense.
                            I like Andre Woodson out of Kentucky. This kid didn't exactly have big name players surrounding him like a USC/Michigan team does and he put up some incredible numbers. Draft boards have him slipping after a poor showing in the Senior Bowl practices. That may be a blessing for us. Rodgers needs competition to bring him to the next level. Just handing him the reigns isn't going to make him better. The last position we need growing pains at is QB.
                            After watching Tim Couch, I don't want any QB's from Kentucky
                            After watching Trent Dilfer, Joey Harrington, and David Carr I didn't want a Tedford QB either, good luck to us all.
                            Leave it to you to be completely stupid.

                            Dilfer: HAS WON A SUPERBOWL. If Arod does that i'll be happy.

                            Carr: Umm, that would be interesting how Tedford affected him since Carr red shirted in 99 and started in 00 and 00...wait for it, wait for it..wait for it.. Tedford had last coached at Fresno state in 1997.

                            Harrington: Tedford was gone by the time Joey had his tremendous senior year..and Tedford was the OC..not the QB coach. But, i'll give you some leeway on that.
                            Okay Ty, you are soo smart. Name one successful Tedford QB. Go ahead. And don't give me Dilfer's Super Bowl on a team where he was asked not to screw up and rely on defense and a running game.
                            Excuse me..but, i don't have to do anything..except make you look foolish..well, you do that on your own quite well.

                            Dilfer...isn't that what you want a QB to do? Not screw up. Guess i was mistaken. BTW, i could just as easily say that he was with the Bucs..name one succesful QB there before Culverhouse sold the team. I seem to recall a HOF QB that blew there.

                            Harrington: Are you really gonna blame him when I could just mention he played for the lions.

                            Perhaps we should look at Tedford as a guy who coached up marginal talent..guys that are still in the league like Volek and Feeley.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Merlin
                              They do broadcast on National TV or were you too busy packing your crack pipe? I first saw him while flipping through channels waiting for a Badger game. I watched every chance I got from then on. Did I care about Kentucky? Hell no, I could care less. But this kid was worth watching.
                              Broadcast on national TV. LOL

                              They were broadcasting a 3-8 team? LOL

                              THey were broadcasting a 7-5 music bowl team. Please. You have been exposed.

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                              • #45
                                I didn't think you could come up with a rational response. There are none Ty. Not a single success story in the entire NFL. Mediocrity and jokes. David Carr probably had the most potential but he landed on a crappy team.

                                When you are done reveling in the essence that is Ty, pull your head out of your ass and quite trying to make excuse after excuse without any proof.
                                "Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
                                – Benjamin Franklin

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