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[PackerBlues]

Just one little problem with this "evil Bus Cook theory".

Bus Cook is not Moss's agent, he is Brett Favre's.

Tim DiPiero is Randy Moss's agent.

[Lurker64]

Just one little problem with this "evil Bus Cook theory".

Bus Cook is not Moss's agent, he is Brett Favre's.

Tim DiPiero is Randy Moss's agent.

Considering that Randy Moss appears on Bus Cook's list of current NFL player clients (he's number 19 on the list), would I be allowed to use the pointing and laughing smiley as an appropriate retort?

[RashanGary]

Bus probably loses a million dollars from Bretts salary and endorsments next year too. I'm sure he has his own little reasons (outside Moss) to be upset and bitter about this whole thing.

[PackerBlues]

Just one little problem with this "evil Bus Cook theory".

Bus Cook is not Moss's agent, he is Brett Favre's.

Tim DiPiero is Randy Moss's agent.

Considering that Randy Moss appears on Bus Cook's list of current NFL player clients (he's number 19 on the list), would I be allowed to use the pointing and laughing smiley as an appropriate retort?

Busted. Seems to me that this came up last season though, and it was reported that Moss had changed agents. I also ran a google search for Moss's agent, and ran across this article:

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2008/02/29/no_hookup_for_moss_patriots/

in wich it says, "When reached after midnight, Moss's agent, Tim DiPiero, said he had no comment on negotiations and wouldn't answer a question as to whether Moss, now officially a free agent, had the parameters of a deal to stay with the Patriots, who elected not to place the franchise tag on the record-setting receiver."

It kind of led me to believe that Dipiero might in fact be Moss's agent. But, if you want to use the pointing and laughing smiley as a retort......... feel free.

[mngolf19]

Just one little problem with this "evil Bus Cook theory".

Bus Cook is not Moss's agent, he is Brett Favre's.

Tim DiPiero is Randy Moss's agent.

Considering that Randy Moss appears on Bus Cook's list of current NFL player clients (he's number 19 on the list), would I be allowed to use the pointing and laughing smiley as an appropriate retort?

I believe DiPiero is correct. I've seen him comment in papers as Moss's agent. Also, using the list you provided it shows Fred Smoot playing for MN so I'm not sure if this is current.

[Merlin]

Man, there has to be some legs to the story about Favre not happy with management. Most statements from former players, friends, relatives, and agents have been about him still having the desire to play.

Some of us thought this with the current management from day one. However, it was dismissed as being idiotic, moronic, and stupid. Don't "stir the pot"...

[PackerBlues]

Man, there has to be some legs to the story about Favre not happy with management. Most statements from former players, friends, relatives, and agents have been about him still having the desire to play.

Some of us thought this with the current management from day one. However, it was dismissed as being idiotic, moronic, and stupid. Don't "stir the pot"...

STIR IT!!! STIR IT!!!

I just love watchin the

[fan4life]

Favre finally tired of carrying the team. When he asked for help last year, TT gave him lip service about upgrading the O-line, WR corps and running game. Then TT screwed with Moss and blew that deal. Rightly so, TT refused to get into a bidding war over Ahman Green. But he also concluded training camp with HUGE question marks surrounding the running game that should be there to support a 38-year old quarterback playing on borrowed time.

So Favre enters the season after committing to return, challenged to quickly develop chemistry with inexperienced WRs and 3rd down backs, and having to play behind a shaky O-line without even the threat of a running game.

But they figured out how to win. All under the scrutiny of fans, media and some within his own organization who had written off the old QB on the verge of rewriting the record books.

When the young team stumbled against SEA, Favre pulled them out of it and rode along for the ride as they caroused in the snow. But when they fell flat on their collective arses in the NFC championship game, Favre was labeled "old and cold" even though his young receivers couldn't catch, his O-line couldn't block and his defense treated Plaxico Burress to a career night.

Now, reports surface that voices within 1265 Lombardi Ave feel that its time to move on.

"Of course we want Brett to come back," TT says publicly. Excitement abounds that he might finally become a player in free agency to bring in a couple of veterans to shore up a couple of weak spots.

But, alas, TT makes no bold moves. And certainly doesn't call to reassure Favre that he won't be left again as the primary playmaker on a team expected to win it all. All this, while Favre recognizes that anything less than a SB would be a huge disappointment to himself and Packer fans everywhere.

Burnt out? Yeah, I bet he is. As Mort says, "The pressure of being Brett Favre finally caught up with him."

[HarveyWallbangers]

Woe is Brett. That's one way of looking at it. Another way of looking at is that the GM surrounded Brett with a great receiving corps (Driver, Jennings, Jones, Robinson, Martin, Lee), a young stallion at RB (Grant), and at least 3 good OL (Tauscher, Clifton, and Wells). This unit was one of the top 3 offenses in football. The defense and special teams were also both top 10. This is a tiring angle. I'll agree with bulldog on this one. For maybe the 3rd or 4th year in his career, Brett was surrounded by talent that was good enough to get to the Super Bowl. Of course, he was the biggest part of their successul. Why not? He's a Hall of Fame QB. However, talent didn't cost them a Super Bowl berth. The team just got beat by a team playing better, and Brett let them down as much as anybody. I can't be mad at him. It wasn't a mental mistake. It was just a bad throw in bad conditions against a team that was playing very well.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Just one little problem with this "evil Bus Cook theory".

Bus Cook is not Moss's agent, he is Brett Favre's.

Tim DiPiero is Randy Moss's agent.

Considering that Randy Moss appears on Bus Cook's list of current NFL player clients (he's number 19 on the list), would I be allowed to use the pointing and laughing smiley as an appropriate retort?

Time for you to stop laughing as DiPiero IS HIS AGENT.

But Tim DiPiero, Moss' agent, said in The Boston Globe there were "certain intangibles" that pushed matters in the Patriots' favor.

"Oftentimes, when people judge whether a contract is a success, they look at how much it's worth. But there is more to life than just pure money," DiPiero said, according to The Globe. "In this case, Randy experienced some intangibles during the year, from his friendships, to his relationship with the coaching staff and others in the organization. Those intangibles had some value here."

[Partial]

Man, there has to be some legs to the story about Favre not happy with management. Most statements from former players, friends, relatives, and agents have been about him still having the desire to play.

Some of us thought this with the current management from day one. However, it was dismissed as being idiotic, moronic, and stupid. Don't "stir the pot"...

I am not blaming the management, though, I am blaming Favre. I don't get to tell my boss how to do his job, even if I am a hall of fame employee.

[Partial]

Woe is Brett. That's one way of looking at it. Another way of looking at is that the GM surrounded Brett with a great receiving corps (Driver, Jennings, Jones, Robinson, Martin, Lee), a young stallion at RB (Grant), and at least 3 good OL (Tauscher, Clifton, and Wells). This unit was one of the top 3 offenses in football. The defense and special teams were also both top 10. This is a tiring angle. I'll agree with bulldog on this one. For maybe the 3rd or 4th year in his career, Brett was surrounded by talent that was good enough to get to the Super Bowl. Of course, he was the biggest part of their successul. Why not? He's a Hall of Fame QB. However, talent didn't cost them a Super Bowl berth. The team just got beat by a team playing better, and Brett let them down as much as anybody. I can't be mad at him. It wasn't a mental mistake. It was just a bad throw in bad conditions against a team that was playing very well.

Precisely. If he is going to bitch and moan about not getting Moss or more help than he is nuts. The team is chock full of quality offensive talent.

[Fritz]

IF Brett Favre really needed Randy Moss in order to motivate himself to come back, then that's like a guy who needs to close his eyes and picture a Playboy Playmate in order to get it up for his wife - if that's what's happening, then there's a serious problem between the guy and his wife, and all the Playboy Playmates in the world aren't going to fix the problem between the guy and his wife.

Okay, no smart aleck comments now. Just to discourage it, let me be clear:

Brett Favre = Husband

Wife = Playing football for the Green Bay Packers

Randy Moss = Playboy Playmate

Wow. I bet no one in the history of the world has ever written "Randy Moss = Playboy Playmate" before.

[PackerBlues]

IF Brett Favre really needed Randy Moss in order to motivate himself to come back, then that's like a guy who needs to close his eyes and picture a Playboy Playmate in order to get it up for his wife - if that's what's happening, then there's a serious problem between the guy and his wife, and all the Playboy Playmates in the world aren't going to fix the problem between the guy and his wife.

Okay, no smart aleck comments now. Just to discourage it, let me be clear:

Brett Favre = Husband

Wife = Playing football for the Green Bay Packers

Randy Moss = Playboy Playmate

Wow. I bet no one in the history of the world has ever written "Randy Moss = Playboy Playmate" before.

ummmmm..... heh heh. But if a guy did have a problem getting it up for his wife, and that playboy playmate came to stay with him and his wife.........to ummmm "play" with them for say an entire season.........I bet he would no longer have a problem getting it up.

[RashanGary]

I though Eli Manning said it best when he won the SB. He said "In the 4th quarter with 3 minutes to go, this is what you want the chance to do"

Favre didn't want the ball. Rodgers does. It's time to let him ride off into the sunset and just let it go IMO.