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  • #31
    Originally posted by Partial
    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
    Woe is Brett. That's one way of looking at it. Another way of looking at is that the GM surrounded Brett with a great receiving corps (Driver, Jennings, Jones, Robinson, Martin, Lee), a young stallion at RB (Grant), and at least 3 good OL (Tauscher, Clifton, and Wells). This unit was one of the top 3 offenses in football. The defense and special teams were also both top 10. This is a tiring angle. I'll agree with bulldog on this one. For maybe the 3rd or 4th year in his career, Brett was surrounded by talent that was good enough to get to the Super Bowl. Of course, he was the biggest part of their successul. Why not? He's a Hall of Fame QB. However, talent didn't cost them a Super Bowl berth. The team just got beat by a team playing better, and Brett let them down as much as anybody. I can't be mad at him. It wasn't a mental mistake. It was just a bad throw in bad conditions against a team that was playing very well.
    Precisely. If he is going to bitch and moan about not getting Moss or more help than he is nuts. The team is chock full of quality offensive talent.
    Personally, I thought getting Moss would have hurt Favre. He would have started chucking the ball up there again, rather than the patient - ball control approach he used most of the year. He had great success with the WR he currently has, and all but Driver are likely going to be better next season.

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    • #32
      You guys just don't listen. When Mort tried to twist it, Favre even clarified. He spelled it out completely and this discussion is part of it. Every word he says is scrutinized and everyone believes what they wanna hear no matter what he really says anyway.

      Peter King did a great piece on why he knew Favre was done long before he retired. No matter what you think of him from a journalistic standpoint, he listens and picks up nuances.

      As to TT's "showing him love," it's been stated that what Thompson did was give him space. Favre would have to be a complete idiot not to know without doubt that he was wanted back in Green Bay, and after watching him since 1992, I can assure you, he's no idiot. He doesn't need his ego stroked, he doesn't need to be treated like a little boy or micromanaged. If I were TT, I'd have let him have some room to breathe as well. M3 talked to him and gave him the space and the needed sounding board to actually come to the conclusion that he needed to reach.
      "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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      • #33
        Brett said last offseason that he really didn't know if he wanted the ball with 2 minutes left. IMO, Brett really is worn out and tired at the moment and the Giants defeat still gnaws at him but I do think in a few months, he will be kicking himself for retiring. The Packers were lucky in the beginning of the year and injury wise they were all season but by years end, they were definitely one of the best teams in football and with all of their youth, they should be a better team just by being a year older. If it is true that the lack of any "big" signing made Brett retire, shame on Brett. I still won't believe this crap about the pressure being too high, ask the pats about pressure. I think that may just be an out for him. Brett is,or at least was a huge competitor and competitors are not afraid of losing to the point where they will not even compete.
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