Chad Pennington

[KYPack]

Pennington is way down there on arm strength, 'tis true. There is also a couple factors in play with him:
1. The Jets still make noises that he is the starter.
2. Pennington still sees himself as an NFL starter. We would have to be his last hope to get a league deal and stay on a roster.

That said, I'd love to get him, noodle arm and all. He is a leader, he's got that "We are Marshall" zeal working for him. He would be great for Rodgers, he knows a lot and is the kind of guy that would help.

The arm is a factor, but M3's offense is perfect for him. Those crosses, slants, and sluggos are right up his alley. A good guy in the locker room, he would fit right in.

I still think he gets cut, but M3 and TT will want to get somebody in here well before June 1.

[Merlin]

Chad Pennington is a backup, period. I don't want him here because Rodgers is already on the "glass jaw" bubble and we don't need a backup who is known to have one. The love affair with Quinn Gray has to stop. He is inaccurate and at his age there is a reason he isn't a starter in the NFL.

We need to either go after someone to compete for the starting role or bring in a viable veteran with a few gallons left in the tank that isn't an injury problem. Drafting a QB is worthless because there is no veteran for them to learn from. I suspect we will take a QB in a later round but I don't expect that pick to be on the team, maybe practice squad.

The smartest thing Thompson could do is take a QB with one of our top 60 picks and let them compete to light a fire under Rodgers' ass. If you want to know how good your QB is, let him know he is replaceable. Of course, I won't be holding my breath for that too happen.

[Deputy Nutz]

Chad Pennington is a backup, period. I don't want him here because Rodgers is already on the "glass jaw" bubble and we don't need a backup who is known to have one. The love affair with Quinn Gray has to stop. He is inaccurate and at his age there is a reason he isn't a starter in the NFL.

We need to either go after someone to compete for the starting role or bring in a viable veteran with a few gallons left in the tank that isn't an injury problem. Drafting a QB is worthless because there is no veteran for them to learn from. I suspect we will take a QB in a later round but I don't expect that pick to be on the team, maybe practice squad.

The smartest thing Thompson could do is take a QB with one of our top 60 picks and let them compete to light a fire under Rodgers' ass. If you want to know how good your QB is, let him know he is replaceable. Of course, I won't be holding my breath for that too happen.

I didn't know Rodgers needed a fire lit anywhere, care to shed some light?

[Zool]

I didn't know Rodgers needed a fire lit anywhere, care to shed some light?

Cmon Nutz. The guy has been in the league 3 years and he hasn't started a single game. He clearly doesn't have what it takes to be a good pro QB.

[Deputy Nutz]

I didn't know Rodgers needed a fire lit anywhere, care to shed some light?

Cmon Nutz. The guy has been in the league 3 years and he hasn't started a single game. He clearly doesn't have what it takes to be a good pro QB.

That might be a better statement than, "Light a fire under his ass". What the hell does that mean? I guess if he was a slacker, and had a poor work ethic reported I would understand the comment, but everyone has nothing but praise for the kid.

[Zool]

I didn't know Rodgers needed a fire lit anywhere, care to shed some light?

Cmon Nutz. The guy has been in the league 3 years and he hasn't started a single game. He clearly doesn't have what it takes to be a good pro QB.(sarcasm)

That might be a better statement than, "Light a fire under his ass". What the hell does that mean? I guess if he was a slacker, and had a poor work ethic reported I would understand the comment, but everyone has nothing but praise for the kid.

Sorry let me fix that.

[rbaloha1]

Pennington

Chad is a good fit due to his accuracy.

Plays MM's style of offense -- checkdowns and throwing routes MM prefers as outlined in a previous post.

Lets hope Chad becomes a Packer.

[The Leaper]

I still think he gets cut, but M3 and TT will want to get somebody in here well before June 1.

I don't see why bringing in a veteran like CP would create a major concern if it happened June 15 rather than March 15. Pennington has been through the paces in the NFL...he's not going to be behind the 8 ball if he hits the roster in June.

If M3 and TT want to bring in an experienced vet as the #2 QB, I don't see how they will get someone like that before June 1. The guys left out there right now are all stiffs.

[cpk1994]

I didn't know Rodgers needed a fire lit anywhere, care to shed some light?

Cmon Nutz. The guy has been in the league 3 years and he hasn't started a single game. He clearly doesn't have what it takes to be a good pro QB.

That might be a better statement than, "Light a fire under his ass". What the hell does that mean? I guess if he was a slacker, and had a poor work ethic reported I would understand the comment, but everyone has nothing but praise for the kid.

All you have to do is see who wrote that "light a fire under his ass comment" to see what kind of moronic statement it is. Merlin hates ARod and is hoping for an epic failure so he can come on here and do his "I told you so" crap.

[Deputy Nutz]

I didn't know Rodgers needed a fire lit anywhere, care to shed some light?

Cmon Nutz. The guy has been in the league 3 years and he hasn't started a single game. He clearly doesn't have what it takes to be a good pro QB.

That might be a better statement than, "Light a fire under his ass". What the hell does that mean? I guess if he was a slacker, and had a poor work ethic reported I would understand the comment, but everyone has nothing but praise for the kid.

All you have to do is see who wrote that "light a fire under his ass comment" to see what kind of moronic statement it is. Merlin hates ARod and is hoping for an epic failure so he can come on here and do his "I told you so" crap.

This might very well be the case, but there is more to bash Rodgers with than his comment about Rodgers passivity or work ethic. A fire isn't going to keep him from not getting injured, in fact it will probably cause serious burns on his thighs and butocks which would then lead to a trip on IR. I don't want a player on this team that would resort to those actions to see time on the field.

[KYPack]

I still think he gets cut, but M3 and TT will want to get somebody in here well before June 1.

I don't see why bringing in a veteran like CP would create a major concern if it happened June 15 rather than March 15. Pennington has been through the paces in the NFL...he's not going to be behind the 8 ball if he hits the roster in June.

If M3 and TT want to bring in an experienced vet as the #2 QB, I don't see how they will get someone like that before June 1. The guys left out there right now are all stiffs.

Yeah, I don't think it matters when we bring a Chad Pennington. My post reflected more how I think TT and M3 think. Those coach types want their players on board and working with the reciever group ASAP to develop timing.

I think it might be all moot if NY can work out CP's contract.

ARod is the first consideration here, so TT may just wait. Another guy who may need a gig come June 1 is Chris Simms. TB has carries 4 QB's for some time now. If Jake the Snake decides to come back, Simms might be available, too.

You need a vet who can be productive give Rodgers injury history. Whichever QB they pick up, he needs to be experienced.

Nall is not a consideration, in my opinion. He simple doesn't have it anymore and any other vet would be superior to him.

[The Shadow]

Re: Chad Pennington

Pennington is below average as a starter. He'd make a good backup though. He demonstrated that a QB without a strong arm--even if he's cerebral--is a major liability to a team.

Major liability? Where the hell have you been?

I agreed he'd make a good backup. However, his weak arm was a major liability to the Jets. There were routes they couldn't run with him as a QB. You can point out those two years, but he's something like 24-27 as a starter in the NFL. At this point, he's below average as a starter--and that has all to do with his arm strength. It's even weaker now than earlier in his career with all of his injuries. My point was a counterpoint Shadows's post making Pennington out to be "devastatingly effective." A weak armed QB can succeed, but a weak-armed QB is a major liability to an offense. Otherwise, if it wasn't so important, teams would look for "cerebral" QBs and ignore their arm strength.

I refer to the game a few years back where he cleaned our clock.

[The Shadow]

Re: Chad Pennington

[quote="HarveyWallbangers"]

...would be an ideal choice to bring in behind Aaron Rodgers.
Still remember the game in which he demonstrated how a cerebral qb - even without a cannon arm - could be devestatingly effective.
What would the Jets ask?

Pennington is below average as a starter. He'd make a good backup though. He demonstrated that a QB without a strong arm--even if he's cerebral--is a major liability to a team.[/quote]

Starr?
Montana?
Tarkington?

[Merlin]

I didn't know Rodgers needed a fire lit anywhere, care to shed some light?

Cmon Nutz. The guy has been in the league 3 years and he hasn't started a single game. He clearly doesn't have what it takes to be a good pro QB.

That might be a better statement than, "Light a fire under his ass". What the hell does that mean? I guess if he was a slacker, and had a poor work ethic reported I would understand the comment, but everyone has nothing but praise for the kid.

Competition is good at every position. He has been spoon fed since he arrived in Green Bay and was handed the backup role with because of his draft status. You don't think that mentally that can change how he approaches things? After three years of knowing you have a job regardless of your performance or health, people get complacent. I don't argue his work ethic, I don't argue that he isn't try to improve. However, when you bring someone in to compete with him, you may just find out before the season starts what you really have in the kid. Will he rise to the occasion? Will he learn and excel? Or will he basically fold up? You don't know that, I don't know that, and the Packers don't know that. Competition for the position sure would change the dynamics of the past 3 years of his career. That is what is best for the Packers.

[twoseven]

Weak armed QBs? Like Troy Aikman and Steve Young? I don't think anyone ever accused those guys of having a cannon, same for our new leader AR. A weak arm is a problem if your accuracy is for shit, not if you put the ball where it needs to be when it needs to be there. Besides, we're talking about a backup. I'd rather have a weak armed vet like CP than some wet behind the ears rookie that we have yet to even draft if AR goes down. Yeah, Ingle Martin, he was great.