Vernon Davis be stoopid?

[MadtownPacker]

davis proved what an idiot he was when he stated that he was glad the Thompson passed on him. I bet he sure has enjoyed working with Alex "the next bust" Smith.

[texaspackerbacker]

I was for picking Davis. Fact is, he hasn't done much. Fact is, though, Hawk hasn't been all that great either. Trading down probably would have been the thing to do, in hindsight.

[The Leaper]

Fact is, though, Hawk hasn't been all that great either.

The guy has posted over 100 tackles in each of his first 2 seasons and he hasn't missed a game.

I'm not sure what you are looking for. There aren't many LBs in the NFL who would post better numbers than Hawk at his position in our system. We'd have been dumb to trade down and pass up a sure thing like Hawk for some question mark.

[Him8123]

I wanted Hawk from the get go. Yeah Davis looked good at the time. But we badly needed to boost our Defense.

[DonHutson]

I'm in favor of AJ's no talking on the cell phone at the movies policy.

[Joemailman]

It's probably no big surprise that a guy with the Initials VD often acts like a dick.

[ND72]

Re: Vernon Davis be stoopid?

I have to admit, I love Hawk (in a non-gay way).

my fiance worries....might have somethign to do with my avatar picture...I donno.

[b bulldog]

We would have been dumb to trade down and get a player like Sims, McIntosh, Howard, or Ryans and more picks? Both are disappointments but VD is much more so but both could and should get better.

[b bulldog]

Or maybe would you have packaged Hawk, Harrell and Colledge for Mario Williams

[texaspackerbacker]

Fact is, though, Hawk hasn't been all that great either.

The guy has posted over 100 tackles in each of his first 2 seasons and he hasn't missed a game.

I'm not sure what you are looking for. There aren't many LBs in the NFL who would post better numbers than Hawk at his position in our system. We'd have been dumb to trade down and pass up a sure thing like Hawk for some question mark.

I won't say anything bad against Hawk, other than that a pick that high maybe should be even better. Hindsight is 20/20, but I think looking back on it, I'd rather have Patrick Willis and another pick high enough to get a top quality TE, no, I don't mean instead of Lee--in addition.

[twoseven]

Fact is, though, Hawk hasn't been all that great either.

The guy has posted over 100 tackles in each of his first 2 seasons and he hasn't missed a game.

I'm not sure what you are looking for. There aren't many LBs in the NFL who would post better numbers than Hawk at his position in our system. We'd have been dumb to trade down and pass up a sure thing like Hawk for some question mark.

I won't say anything bad against Hawk, other than that a pick that high maybe should be even better. Hindsight is 20/20, but I think looking back on it, I'd rather have Patrick Willis and another pick high enough to get a top quality TE, no, I don't mean instead of Lee--in addition.

"I won't say anything bad against Hawk, other than that a pick that high maybe should be even better."

So are you then conceding that Mario, Bush, Young, and Ferguson who have all had at least one rough year of two are ALL yet to meet expectations considering they went before AJ and Hawk has been solid in BOTH of his seasons?

Patrick Willis? He was drafted last year, not in 2006. How do you see us pulling that one off? Besides, Willis is playing in a 3-4 not a 4-3 and he is more natural to Nick Barnett's ILB than OLB so it's hardly a slam dunk to see him fitting into our system to begin with.

What else is HS 20/20 is anyone thinking we could determine a tradedown for picks for Hawk and it would have magically happened. Were DET or MN (the next two teams to take a LB) going to trade with us? Did we want Hawk in DET or MN for his career so we could have picked up Sims or Greenway and a pick?

[gbgary]

davis lost me (as far as wishing him well after the draft) when i saw him crying and saying how happy he was that it wasn't the Packers that drafted him.

[The Leaper]

We would have been dumb to trade down and get a player like Sims, McIntosh, Howard, or Ryans and more picks?

Yep...and by the end of their careers, you'll see why.

[twoseven]

We would have been dumb to trade down and get a player like Sims

So OAK at 7 or BUF at 8 were going to give up picks to move up two or three spots and swap with us?

SF at 6 coveted Hawk too, no guarantee he doesn't go there if we passed. Same theory for whoever trades into the five with us. DET was waiting at 9 for what became Sims. If we didn't end up at 7 or 8 Sims could have been gone anyway. A trade scenario that allowed us to do what you suggest seems impossible even two years after the fact.

[SkinBasket]

davis lost me when i saw him crying and saying how happy he was that it wasn't the Packers that drafted him.

Yeah. That was kind of a deal killer as far as wishing we had drafted him. I remember my wife saw that pick and said, "Awww, he's so happy to be drafted..." When he said he was just so happy not to go to GB, she changed her tune to, "That fucker."