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  • #16
    Originally posted by gbpackfan
    Yawn. This horse has been beaten to death, raised from the dead, and then beaten some more.

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    • #17
      I could see why Thompson may have privately wanted Favre to retire 2 years ago. The team was coming off a 4-12 year and was going to be very young going forward.

      However, I see no reason why Thompson would've wanted Favre to retire last offseason or this offseason...nor do I see any evidence of Thompson doing anything to push Favre out. Thompson is never going to sign a bunch of free agents...his lack of action wasn't done to insult Favre.

      The notion that Favre is quitting because he feels unwanted really has no evidence to support it. There is NO CHANCE that Favre returns to play for another team. For starters, he can't unless Green Bay allows it. Plus, Favre would have no interest in learning a new system and learning new players. He is quitting because he doesn't want to put in all the work...and going to a team other than GB would mean twice the amount of work.

      Jurko really isn't a bright guy. Why people gave him a radio show is beyond me. I guess it must be like listening to Chris Spielman here in Columbus. Painful. Some of these guys can play football really well...but don't have the brains or communication skills necessary for really making a well thought analysis that makes sense.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Iron Mike
        Originally posted by gbpackfan
        Yawn. This horse has been beaten to death, raised from the dead, and then beaten some more.

        I like this one much better.

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        • #19
          Re: Jurko

          Originally posted by Packnut
          As a ex-player, he has ties to people in the league and still comes up with some good stuff. I'm not saying what he says is true, just offering another opinion on a subject that has been debated quite frequentley in this forum.
          Did he mention any of these ties? Did he present any basis for his opinions other than publically available information and his personal gut feelings? If not, we have to realize that they guy is just expressing his personal opinion and that he has incentive to get people talking about what he says. It's his job.

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          • #20
            Re: Things

            Originally posted by Packnut
            Originally posted by JustinHarrell
            It's not secret to anyone around the NFL that Thompson wanted Favre gone?

            Funny, this is the first we've heard of it outside of extremist speculation.

            Best kept secret, no secret - same thing. . . . .

            Well, the subject has been brought up on ESPN and the NFL network at one time or another. It was discussed a lot during the Moss debacle last season. If you consider that "extremist speculation" so be it.

            Man, it's hilarious. The slightest hint of any insult to Ted and the brigade comes out in full force around here. IF what Jurko and others have speculated is true, it would NOT be any insult to Thompson. It would only be natural for him to want his guy under center.
            I'm the biggest Favre worshiper in the freakin galaxy and even I know the Rodger's era need's to begin now.
            I have to disagree here. Why do you say it would be "natural" for anyone to want this? It would make more sense to me to say it would be "natural" for a GM to do whatever it takes to win a Super Bowl, since that's the ultimate reward and recognition. If Favre offered TT the best chance to do that, and he did, why would TT want him gone? There would be nothing natural about wanting to get rid of a hall of fame QB who can still play just so you can watch a guy you drafted. That would be immature, not natural.

            And I don't think TT is immature, either.
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            • #21
              Re: Things

              Originally posted by Fritz
              Originally posted by Packnut
              Originally posted by JustinHarrell
              It's not secret to anyone around the NFL that Thompson wanted Favre gone?

              Funny, this is the first we've heard of it outside of extremist speculation.

              Best kept secret, no secret - same thing. . . . .

              Well, the subject has been brought up on ESPN and the NFL network at one time or another. It was discussed a lot during the Moss debacle last season. If you consider that "extremist speculation" so be it.

              Man, it's hilarious. The slightest hint of any insult to Ted and the brigade comes out in full force around here. IF what Jurko and others have speculated is true, it would NOT be any insult to Thompson. It would only be natural for him to want his guy under center.
              I'm the biggest Favre worshiper in the freakin galaxy and even I know the Rodger's era need's to begin now.
              I have to disagree here. Why do you say it would be "natural" for anyone to want this? It would make more sense to me to say it would be "natural" for a GM to do whatever it takes to win a Super Bowl, since that's the ultimate reward and recognition. If Favre offered TT the best chance to do that, and he did, why would TT want him gone? There would be nothing natural about wanting to get rid of a hall of fame QB who can still play just so you can watch a guy you drafted. That would be immature, not natural.

              And I don't think TT is immature, either.
              Even tho the Packer line was that we weren't rebuilding, taking a look at the roster from the day that TT took over up to last season would suggest otherwise. With the Pack going 4-12, the number of seasons Favre had left being in the low single digits, and TT knowing there was major overhauling on it's way, I don't find it to hard to believe that TT wouldn't have minded starting this process fresh with his own QB. However, I think TT is a good GM who took the situation as it was and didn't waste time at his birthday cakes wishing Favre away.

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              • #22
                Before there was such a thing as a salary cap, there was such a thing as the value of money for its own sake.

                Now I'm not saying this is a good thing, and I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm also not saying this applies to Favre's situation--but it might have. And I'm certainly not saying it provoked bad feeling with Favre--even though it certainly seems to with some forum members.

                The idea is: that Thompson likes saving money--getting by as cheaply as possible, regardless of the salary cap. Looking at it from that perspective, we can begin to understand how Thompson could feel no urgency to spend excess under the cap. Looking at it from that perspective also, Favre was $10 or 11 million dollars either spent or not spent.

                Prior to the great success of last season--which seemed to vindicate Thompson's cheapness, it's just possible that not signing high priced free agents for Favre's final seasons kinda rubbed Brett the wrong way. And if that is true, it's anybody's guess what Brett would have been thinking after Thompson did it Thompson's way, and they went 13-3 (14-4). It's only human for the thought to have crossed Favre's mind, "Ok, Ted, now let's see what your way of things gets you without me".
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                • #23
                  Re: Things

                  Originally posted by Packnut
                  Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                  It's not secret to anyone around the NFL that Thompson wanted Favre gone?

                  Funny, this is the first we've heard of it outside of extremist speculation.

                  Best kept secret, no secret - same thing. . . . .

                  Well, the subject has been brought up on ESPN and the NFL network at one time or another. It was discussed a lot during the Moss debacle last season. If you consider that "extremist speculation" so be it.

                  Man, it's hilarious. The slightest hint of any insult to Ted and the brigade comes out in full force around here. IF what Jurko and others have speculated is true, it would NOT be any insult to Thompson. It would only be natural for him to want his guy under center.

                  I'm the biggest Favre worshiper in the freakin galaxy and even I know the Rodger's era need's to begin now.
                  Whatever you do, don't disagree with the masses. Ted Thompson wanted Favre gone? *GASP*. Conspiracy? No. Speculative, sure. Just like 99% of the garbage that gets discussed here. But then again the masses won't ever say what they are discussing is speculative unless it turns out they are dead wrong and then they all go running for excuses.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Iron Mike
                    Originally posted by gbpackfan
                    Yawn. This horse has been beaten to death, raised from the dead, and then beaten some more.

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